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[dr_rus]

Whoever is responsible for PAL "HD Classics" box art design should be shot in the face.

 

[infinityBCRT]

I noticed in that QL(360 version) that the codec messages take a few seconds to show up. Is that how it is iin the PS3 version too? The fug.

I noticed a little bit of delay but I don't think its nearly as bad as the 360 version. Seems like you'd want to install the 360 version... also could be that the 360 they are playing on is janky and needs to be replaced.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Whoever is responsible for PAL "HD Classics" box art design should be shot in the face.

Yup. It is an abomination. Even infects the icon for the Ico & Shadow disk in your PS3.

 

[jett]

I noticed a little bit of delay but I don't think its nearly as bad as the 360 version. Seems like you'd want to install the 360 version... also could be that the 360 they are playing on is janky and needs to be replaced.

Seems like the codec indicator doesn't show up sometimes either. Good job there bluepoint. Frankly, they're not all that. The controls in SotC are FUBAR.

edit: the delay is on the PS3 version too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9AWAKwNcOk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

meh

 

[GANGSTERKILLER]

Whoever is responsible for PAL "HD Classics" box art design should be shot in the face.

Agree. I'm a "Eurogamer" but the US box art looks better. The US version is on it's way to my house...

 

[DTLIONS1013]

Never played an MGS game before. Do I need to play the original MGS first? And where does MGS4 fit in?

 

[Desmond]

Never played an MGS game before. Do I need to play the original MGS first? And where does MGS4 fit in?

Yes. It is on the PS Store


Timeline-wise it goes

MGS3-PO-MGS5-MG-MG2-MGS1-MGS2-MGSR(I assume)-MGS4

Bolded are in the collection

 

[Red Blaster]

I noticed in that QL(360 version) that the codec messages take a few seconds to show up. Is that how it is iin the PS3 version too? The fug.

It's there, but it's not as bad as what I saw in the quick look. That first one was almost 10 seconds of nothing before the call went through.

 

[Manus]

The menus in this game have just been blowing me away.

 

[infinityBCRT]

It's there, but it's not as bad as what I saw in the quick look. That first one was almost 10 seconds of nothing before the call went through.

I think that was patrick hitting the codec button when there was no call. In the QL hes running around like a mad man passing the spots where codec calls come in and sometimes he hits the button after hes out of the hotspot and then manually initiates a call.

 

[King of the Potato People]

I used to be really good at MGS2. I remember doing a no kills/no alert run of the tanker chapter at the hardest difficulty without the radar.

Spoiler

However, the end of the Plant chapter gets ridiculously hard... Metal Gear fight, Torture chamber, and Solidus fight were all nearly impossible, and I had to use a gameshark to get past 2 of them and a turbo fire controller to get past the chamber.

The tranquilizer gun was a gift from god. Part of the reason I prefer MGS3 is that the game will encourage you to be more resourceful and the gun is rarer (at least on normal).

 

[Red Blaster]

I think that was patrick hitting the codec button when there was no call. In the QL hes running around like a mad man passing the spots where codec calls come in and sometimes he hits the button after hes out of the hotspot and then manually initiates a call.

Yeah you're right. I watched a little bit further and they got better, still about a second or two longer than on PS3 tho.

The tranquilizer gun was a gift from god. Part of the reason I prefer MGS3 is that the game will encourage you to be more resourceful and the gun is rarer (at least on normal).

MGS2 has always been much more difficult than MGS3. In MGS3's extreme difficulty you take damage that's about equivalent to MGS2's normal difficulty. Also MK22 ammo is plentiful in MGS3, it's the silencer that's rare.

 

[Chemo]

Never played an MGS game before. Do I need to play the original MGS first? And where does MGS4 fit in?

Yes, you absolutely must play MGS1 first. Play them in release order, too. MGS1 to MGS2 to MGS3 to MGS4 to Peace Walker. Chronological playthroughs are not for those new to the series.

 

[BadWolf]

Never played an MGS game before. Do I need to play the original MGS first? And where does MGS4 fit in?

Like already mentioned, its best to play them in order of release.

You won't appreciate/understand the story nearly as much otherwise.

 

[jett]

MGS2 on extreme is one of the hardest games I've played. MGS3 doesn't even compare. I literally died hundreds of time on Vamp, but eventually I manged to get myself into a zen trance and beat him. Didn't have rations, didn't have stingers to cheese him, beat him the right way. The boss battles that follow are even harder. Goddamn that game was as relentless as it was satisfying.

 

[Yen]

MGS2 on extreme is one of the hardest games I've played. MGS3 doesn't even compare. I literally died hundreds of time on Vamp, but eventually I manged to get myself into a zen trance and beat him. Didn't have rations, didn't have stingers to cheese him, beat him the right way. The boss battles that follow are even harder. Goddamn that game was as relentless as it was satisfying.

Never played extreme. Did triggering an alert mean "Game Over dun dun dundundun dundunduh"?

 

[Red Blaster]

Never played extreme. Did triggering an alert mean "Game Over dun dun dundundun dundunduh"?

Optional, but you may as well have it on because you die in two shots or so anyway.

 

[jett]

Never played extreme. Did triggering an alert mean "Game Over dun dun dundundun dundunduh"?

Optional, but you may as well have it on because you die in two shots or so anyway.

Yeah, there's no point to keep playing after you get an alert on extreme.

BTW playing MGS2 on extreme is a must if only for the bosses. They all get new patterns and attacks. In the case of the

Spoiler

Metal Gear Ray battle, you have to defeat twenty of them

. BTW you die in two hits.

I was disappointed that MGS3's bosses remained the same on extreme.

 

[BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!]

Yeah, there's no point to keep playing after you get an alert on extreme.

BTW playing MGS2 on extreme is a must if only for the bosses. They all get new patterns and attacks. In the case of the

Spoiler

Metal Gear Ray battle, you have to defeat twenty of them

. BTW you die in two hits.

I was disappointed that MGS3's bosses remained the same on extreme.

Yeah, I think Olga has some kind of 1-shot kill on Hard/Extreme that's hard to dodge, it really caught me by surprise back in the day!

I'm not sure why 2 is the only MGS game that does stuff like this on higher difficulties, seems like a cool idea to implement.

 

[strafer]

Try European Extreme.

Game over if seen.

 

[Totobeni]

Is it just me of the ports(360 version here) really not that good, framerate,AA..ect seems weak and look like they just rushed it, I think Tomb Raider Collection is the really the best HD ports yet.

 

[Mzo]

I wouldn't get the 360 version because of the controls alone.

It would also feel kind of odd? I dunno. These are just such Playstation games to me.

I love my 360 to death, but this is Metal Gear. That would just be weird.

 

[Desmond]

I wouldn't get the 360 version because of the controls alone.

It would also feel kind of odd? I dunno. These are just such Playstation games to me.

I love my 360 to death, but this is Metal Gear. That would just be weird.

I feel the exact same way..it just seems .......off

 

[Red Blaster]

Is it just me of the ports(360 version here) really not that good, framerate,AA..ect seems weak and look like they just rushed it, I think Tomb Raider Collection is the really the best HD ports yet.

No idea how the 360 version is but I feel on PS3 the ports are above average, definitely not perfect though. Codec lag sucks but AA issues? Haven't seen anything in regards to that on PS3. MGS3 has framerate issues at Groznyj Grad and on certain cutscenes with crazy particle effects.

 

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

Everyone says MGS2 is the worst but it's the only game in the series I've completed. I've never felt compelled to finish the others.

 

[Chemo]

Everyone says MGS2 is the worst but it's the only game in the series I've completed. I've never felt compelled to finish the others.

It's the best one. Most people shit on it because they hate Raiden and take the storyline too seriously.

 

[rvy]

MGS2 on extreme is one of the hardest games I've played. MGS3 doesn't even compare. I literally died hundreds of time on Vamp, but eventually I manged to get myself into a zen trance and beat him. Didn't have rations, didn't have stingers to cheese him, beat him the right way. The boss battles that follow are even harder. Goddamn that game was as relentless as it was satisfying.

The right way being... waiting for him to knife you, dodging the attack by jumping backwards into the pool, while hanging from the ledge, and then punching his face?

Cool.

 

[Desmond]

Everyone says MGS2 is the worst but it's the only game in the series I've completed. I've never felt compelled to finish the others.

Two is the best one

 

[Totobeni]

No idea how the 360 version is but I feel on PS3 the ports are above average, definitely not perfect though. Codec lag sucks but AA issues? Haven't seen anything in regards to that on PS3. MGS3 has framerate issues at Groznyj Grad and on certain cutscenes with crazy particle effects.

I feel the exact same way..it just seems .......off

It's not like I have a choice here,After PS3 hack all/most game stores in my town stopped selling legal PS3 games since most people don't buy them anymore ( yeah it's fucked up here) Virgin Megastore was the only place that sells legal and only got the 360 version one..so yeah.

No idea how the 360 version is but I feel on PS3 the ports are above average, definitely not perfect though. Codec lag sucks but AA issues? Haven't seen anything in regards to that on PS3. MGS3 has framerate issues at Groznyj Grad and on certain cutscenes with crazy particle effects.

I dunno they feel just bad port to me, TR got many really good stuff ( different texture,character models) that was really good HD port, AA in SOTC was amazing, GOW collection got beyond solid framerate, here things are just not on the same level with that.

Well maybe it's really just me then.

 

[vid]

Never played an MGS game before. Do I need to play the original MGS first? And where does MGS4 fit in?

If it's an option, you definitely want to play through as much of the series in order of release as possible.

Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake are both included with the HD collection, and are surprisingly playable despite their age. The first game is a little clunky, but still very much worth playing through, while Metal Gear 2 is very comparable to Metal Gear Solid, even though it came many years before.

Metal Gear Solid is available on PSN and is absolutely a must-play before starting on the HD Collection. It sets up the foundation for the rest of the Solid series, and it'll be a lot harder to really appreciate some of the finer details without it. It also includes a very brief synopsis of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 if you can't bring yourself to play through them.

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty is the first game in the HD Collection you should play, followed by Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. While Snake Eater comes the earliest chronologically in the series, a lot of the twists and turns in the story will lose their impact if you play it first.

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops should be your next step, if it's an option. If you can't play it, it's not going to be a huge deal, but there are some subtle things in MGS4 that call back to Portable Ops. I regret that I never got to play PO before I dove into MGS4, but that's just me.

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is a very polarizing game. I love it and think it's the perfect climax to a series that has continued to build onto itself in more and more insane ways since the very beginning. DO NOT PLAY MGS4 without playing as many of the prior games as possible. The game is essentially one giant block of pure fanservice, meant to put a good solid bookend to the story, whether you started at Metal Gear or Metal Gear Solid.

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker is currently the last stop on your tour. It aims to fill in more of the backstory of Big Boss, while providing what may be the largest sum of gameplay in the series so far, stacking up even against MGS2's bevy of VR Missions and Snake Tales.

I know eight games seems like a large order to tackle, but most of them can be completed fairly quickly, even on your first time through... and once you hit the first 'ah-HA' moment where the story really grabs you, you're going to want to ride it all the way 'til the end.

...hm. I think I need to pop in Metal Gear when I get home. It's time to do a full run through of the series.

Edit: OH! I feel silly that I should even have to mention this, but it's come up before. ALWAYS SIT THROUGH THE CREDITS. You never know what kind of insanity awaits.

 

[MikeE21286]

Yes. It is on the PS Store


Timeline-wise it goes

MGS3-PO-MGS5-MG-MG2-MGS1-MGS2-MGSR(I assume)-MGS4

Bolded are in the collection

Lol, note for him that MGS5 is Peace Walker

 

[Mzo]

If you buy MGS on the PSN, do they then expect you to look up Meryl's CODEC frequency online, or has that been altered at all?

I would be surprised if they changed it in any way, so I assume you'd need to look it up.

 

[rvy]

Hideo Kojima is awful with numbers. 3 comes before 1 according to him. So does "5".

 

[SamuraiX-]

For those that still have difficulties up to this day with the Solidus choking, I'll share a tip that I learned from some guy from way back.

Before he starts choking you, grab a thin pen, flip your controller so the triangle button is pointing at you, and place your pen on the surface of the controller (with the writing end facing you) just to the left or right of the triangle button. When he starts the choking process, as fast as you can, run the back end of the pen back and forth across the triangle button.

It worked like magic for me, even on Extreme/Euro Extreme.

 

[rvy]

For those that still have difficulties up to this day with the Solidus choking, I'll share a tip that I learned from some guy from way back.

Before he starts choking you, grab a thin pen, flip your controller so the triangle button is pointing at you, and place your pen on the surface of the controller (with the writing end facing you) just to the left or right of the triangle button. When he starts the choking process, as fast as you can, run the back end of the pen back and forth across the triangle button.

It worked like magic for me, even on Extreme/Euro Extreme.

Ugh... is there real life footage of this? I'm confused, but interested. Very interested.
Someone draw it.

 

[Desmond]

Hideo Kojima is awful with numbers. 3 comes before 1 according to him. So does "5".

I know 'Solid' is because it's 3d, but 3 should've been METAL GEAR NAKED. Sounds like a dodgy porno

Ugh... is there real life footage of this? I'm confused, but interested. Very interested.
Someone draw it.

Some guys also use Rock Band drums

 

[rvy]

I know 'Solid' is because it's 3d, butt 3 should've being METAL GEAR NAKED. Souns like aa dodgy porno

Metal Gear: Snake Eater would have worked wonders. The games have been 3D since the first MGS, it's silly to keep using the joke.
And Square isn't even that relevant anymore, they release a new game every 5 years, no need to kick them while they're down and poke fun at them with your game title.

 

[Retro_]

Everyone says MGS2 is the worst but it's the only game in the series I've completed. I've never felt compelled to finish the others.

It's the best one in terms of content and game design I feel

but alot of people play MGS for story (think of The Twin Snakes and the original as being interchangeable, instead of being entirely different games) and 3's is by far and away much easier to digest.

Some guys also use Rock Band drums

I plan on using the turbo function on my TE stick. lol

Hopefully my copy will be here tomorrow I have off.

 

[SamuraiX-]

Here's an example with a guy just using his fingernail: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6pOCONaIzg

Never tried it that way. Might give it a shot. Pretty much the same idea though.

 

[rvy]

Here's an example with a guy just using his fingernail: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6pOCONaIzg

Never tried it that way. Might give it a shot. Pretty much the same idea though.

I bought a cheap controller with rapid fire back in the day, but that's not going to work anymore. Will try this then, thanks.

 

[jett]

For those that still have difficulties up to this day with the Solidus choking, I'll share a tip that I learned from some guy from way back.

Before he starts choking you, grab a thin pen, flip your controller so the triangle button is pointing at you, and place your pen on the surface of the controller (with the writing end facing you) just to the left or right of the triangle button. When he starts the choking process, as fast as you can, run the back end of the pen back and forth across the triangle button.

It worked like magic for me, even on Extreme/Euro Extreme.

wat. no.

just look at the moon, he'll do less damage.

seriously.

the moon.

 

[Desmond]

wat. no.

just look at the moon, he'll do less damage.

seriously.

the moon.

That's lunar-cy

Spoiler

heh heh

 

[plastik]

If you buy MGS on the PSN, do they then expect you to look up Meryl's CODEC frequency online, or has that been altered at all?

I would be surprised if they changed it in any way, so I assume you'd need to look it up.

it comes with a digital instruction book and you can see it there.

 

[jett]

The right way being... waiting for him to knife you, dodging the attack by jumping backwards into the pool, while hanging from the ledge, and then punching his face?

Cool.

I don't know that method but it sounds cheap! I did it with carefully positioned headshots and dodging his three-knife attack by crouching at the last second, among other stuff. I don't remember exactly how, it was years ago.

 

[BadWolf]

For those that still have difficulties up to this day with the Solidus choking, I'll share a tip that I learned from some guy from way back.

Before he starts choking you, grab a thin pen, flip your controller so the triangle button is pointing at you, and place your pen on the surface of the controller (with the writing end facing you) just to the left or right of the triangle button. When he starts the choking process, as fast as you can, run the back end of the pen back and forth across the triangle button.

It worked like magic for me, even on Extreme/Euro Extreme.

I did it with my thumb.

The pain.

 

[King of the Potato People]

Whoever is responsible for PAL "HD Classics" box art design should be shot in the face.

They should have made it the exclamation mark, awesome mimalism.

 

[rvy]

I don't know that method but it sounds cheap! I did it with carefully positioned headshots and dodging his three-knife attack by crouching at the last second, among other stuff. I don't remember exactly how, it was years ago.

People are crazy. Crazy to the point of taking down a harrier with a SOCOM.

I did it with my thumb.

The pain.

 

[jett]

People are crazy. Crazy to the point of taking down a harrier with a SOCOM.

zomg wtf am i watching!

 

[NYR94]

That's the great thing about the MGS series. No matter how tough and overwhelming a boss battle might at first, there's always someone out there who has found a really simple strategy that makes you think, "Why the hell didn't I think of that?!" Some of the youtube videos show people doing things that make you laugh at how easy it is to take down some of these bosses if you know the right tricks. Always loved the flexibility.

 

[matrix-cat]

I seem to remember I'd always PPK Vamp and then crouch and lie down to dodge his attacks and then awkwardly thwat thwat thwat at him with the M9 when he started jumping on walls. I used to have strategies for all the bossfights but they mostly involved me getting shot a lot, I can't wait to try some of this Youtube-era shit out when I get my HD Collection.