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[Santar]

Just checked the cutscene viewer on the ps2 version and that cutscene with fortune and the krills or whatever they're called isn't rewatchable.
Would be a real shame if the ps3 version gets the shaft yet again..

I'm so tired of these HD editions that in certain aspects are inferior to the originals.
If they can't even port over all the effects of the old games why even bother.

 

[luka]

This renders the camera work useless. WTF.

This happened to me. No lice in that scene anywhar.

edit- ps3 ver

 

[User 10639]

MGS3 definitely looks awesome so far.

Can you take some pictures? You should totally take some pictures for me.

 

[burgerdog]

God, this is so annoying. One has said that he has seen the sea lice, another one that he has not. Sucks that sites like DF or LoT don't care about this game and are not doing a comparison. It would be awesome if there was a three way comparison between the ps2, ps3, and 360.

 

[rvy]

God, this is so annoying. One has said that he has seen the sea lice, another one that he has not. Sucks that sites like DF or LoT don't care about this game and are not doing a comparison. It would be awesome if there was a three way comparison between the ps2, ps3, and 360.

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The conflicting reports are pretty weird. People need to state which versions they are playing.

 

[burgerdog]

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The conflicting reports are pretty weird. People need to state which versions they are playing.

I'm tempted to run out and buy the 360 version to compare it to the ps3 version. Screw that, though. There's probably a high chance that it's even worse than the ps3 sku and then I'd just be out $50.

 

[bud]

So from what I'm hearing, MGS2 HD is kind of boned? A bunch of effects missing and stuff?

http://i.imgur.com/DL1hv.jpg[img]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/2KTNZ.jpg[img]

It seems they may have ported the Xbox/PC version of Substance which was pretty boned too.[/QUOTE]

what the fuck. i'm going to get this, eventually, because mgs3 sounds like it's going to be the absolute shit, but messing up the tanker chapter is inexcusable. dat rain. DAT RAIN. it was in mgs2. I SEEN'T IT. BUT IT GONE.

this is a "i hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on hara-kiri rock. i need scissors! 61!" level fuck up. seriously.

 

[survivor]

Just beat MGS2. Fantastic experience and a great game. It got extremely Codec heavy near the end but after playing MGS4 I don't really mind it that much.

Gameplay wise it was great. Outside of terrible controls, the gameplay was perfect. The story was alright too, but I really lost track of what the hell was happening near the end and which side are the characters on anymore. Time to move on to MGS3 now.

 

[bud]

did you know you can stand on your toes if press l2 and r2 at the same time? i don't remember if that's explained immediately or that you to call the same person a bunch of times to hear that.

did you call the colonel as you were receiving that golden shower?

also, towards the end, when you're

Spoiler

naked

and you receive a codec call, don't pick it up immediately or else you'll miss out on a random video of some busty (iirc...) japanese girl in a hammock. i remember seeing that for the first time when i was, like, 14, thinking "omg is she going to flash her boobs? "

 

[InfiniteNine]

Can you take some pictures? You should totally take some pictures for me.

I would if my camera's SD card worked or if the game allowed screenshots!

The conflicting reports are pretty weird. People need to state which versions they are playing.

PS3 US release.

 

[GANGSTERKILLER]

I'm gonna break my PS3 disc if it turns out the 360 version isn't missing those MGS 2 effects! Someone with the 360 version, please let me know!. I can't belief my eyes, that screens... that screens...

 

[Kagari]

I don't understand why last gen ports are missing effects on new gen consoles...

 

[jett]

Wow at those comparison pics, just wow. :| I'll take a framerate drop here and there but not fucking missing effects.

 

[Y2Kev]

Probably cuz the only games worth porting are the good ones, and those just so happened to be coded to the metal to take advantage of the wackiness of the PS2 and such.

The rest are ubishit.

 

[RoboPlato]

I don't understand why last gen ports are missing effects on new gen consoles...

Usually they were done in a way that developers would never have to use on newer GPUs so support for that process was cut to save money.

EDIT: I like the way Y2Kev summed it up better.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Watching the Giant Bomb Quick Look... WTF? European Extreme? Bwahaha, oh man I'm going to end up picking this up at some point, there's too much I missed out on in both games.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I don't understand why last gen ports are missing effects on new gen consoles...

PS3 might have the brain cells but it doesn't have the emotion to fulfill the brain cells... at least not ever since it lost some weight.

[/cryptic_message]

 

[jett]

Cell is just too emotionally stunted to handle dat rain

Probably cuz the only games worth porting are the good ones, and those just so happened to be coded to the metal to take advantage of the wackiness of the PS2 and such.

The rest are ubishit.

LOL funny thing is that the ubishit hd remakes run like ass

 

[Red Blaster]

PS3 US release.

Same for me.

The lice is definitely there, I'll replay up to that section and take some shitty photos with my phone.

 

[Y2Kev]

Cell is just too emotionally stunted to handle dat rain



LOL funny thing is that the ubishit hd remakes run like ass

I know. That's what I mean.

btw all you people that want lice need to get some shampoo

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

I don't recall the rain effects, but the Fortune scene definitely had the sea lice during my playthrough. Shenanigans are afoot.

 

[legacyzero]

so did the Xbox 360 version take a hit on effects too??

 

[SketchTheArtist]

I'm gonna break my PS3 disc if it turns out the 360 version isn't missing those MGS 2 effects! Someone with the 360 version, please let me know!. I can't belief my eyes, that screens... that screens...

Finished MGS2 and never missed a thing.

 

[Mechazawa]

So we have PS3 version players saying there is lice and there isn't lice in this very same thread.

QUE PASO MANG.

 

[burgerdog]

I won't be home for a week so I can't take shots of those scenes and confirm if the effects are gone or there's a bug that makes them show up/not show up.

Gaf-detectives go investigate. PS3 and 360 shots needed, stat.

 

[B.K.]

So we have PS3 version players saying there is lice and there isn't lice in this very same thread.

QUE PASO MANG.

To see the lice, you have to have one of the earlier PS3 models that has the Emotion Engine!

 

[Y2Kev]

METAL GEAR SOLID 2 TO THE NURSE'S OFFICE PLEASE

 

[InfiniteNine]

I won't be home for a week so I can't take shots of those scenes and confirm if the effects are gone or there's a bug that makes them show up/not show up.

Gaf-detectives go investigate. PS3 and 360 shots needed, stat.

Well I can probably take some off screen shots on Tuesday when I get my new SD card in. Should be good enough as proof.

 

[Crazymoogle]

How far into Big Shell is this? I can try taking a look.

 

[Self_Destructive]

To see the lice, you have to have one of the earlier PS3 models that has the Emotion Engine!

omg if that actually was the case lol

 

[Wario64]

Maybe the 1.01 patch messed with the effects

 

[rvy]

To see the lice, you have to have one of the earlier PS3 models that has the Emotion Engine!

 

[GANGSTERKILLER]

To see the lice, you have to have one of the earlier PS3 models that has the Emotion Engine!

Those models have no emotion anymore because they are all dead and gone... Including my 60 GB 599 US dollars model.

 

[burgerdog]

METAL GEAR SOLID 2 TO THE NURSE'S OFFICE PLEASE

Fine, fine. Asap!

 

[User 10639]

I would if my camera's SD card worked or if the game allowed screenshots!

;-;

I guess I will just have to buy it, then.

Spoiler

That makes ~$160 I will have spent on MGS3

 

[jett]

Comparing my Document of MGS2 disc with this, it looks to me that we got the shaft when it comes to the particle effects.

btw holy crap this game still looks amazing on the ps2. dat rain is indeed dat rain.

 

[rvy]

Spamming the podcast inbox as we speak.

Spoiler

Yes.

 

[SLEEPS7ALK3R]

FFFFUUUUUCK. WHAT?! They fucked up the RAIN?!?!

Great... Now that's just fucking great. They went right ahead and ruined the best intro scene in the history of fucking mankind. Great job, Bluepoint. Dickheads.

 

[Sub_Level]

Metal Gear Solid 2: Plant Drinking Game. Take a shot or double shot everytime you beat a boss including Fortune, Vamp Sniper Battle, and both Tengu encounters. Just did it and it made dog tagging Easy Mode not as boring. You'll really get your buzz going once you get to Arsenal.

Now for the last three difficulties! Time for dat shaven Solid Snake and dat Stealth Camo.

 

[SentientStone]

Is it just me or is the sound mix for the cinematics missing the right surround channels? I seem to only have sound on my left surround; it is fine during gameplay.

 

[TheDrowningMan]

FFFFUUUUUCK. WHAT?! They fucked up the RAIN?!?!

Great... Now that's just fucking great. They went right ahead and ruined the best intro scene in the history of fucking mankind. Great job, Bluepoint. Dickheads.

Kojima was obviously happy enough with it, I think it's a bit harsh to put it all on Bluepoint. I'm guessing that some of the effects were just genuinely tough to recreate. It happens.

 

[StunandStab]

Maybe the 1.01 patch messed with the effects

The patch did cause a freezing glitch for me in MGS2, so it is possible it screwed up MGS2 in other ways as well.

 

[fuzzyreactor]

Those models have no emotion anymore because they are all dead and gone... Including my 60 GB 599 US dollars model.

mine keeps trucking and i havent cleaned it in over a year, leave it on for days at a time and even dropped it and broke the plastic casing.

 

[SLEEPS7ALK3R]

Kojima was obviously happy enough with it, I think it's a bit harsh to put it all on Bluepoint. I'm guessing that some of the effects were just genuinely tough to recreate. It happens.

I wonder what else is Bluepoint working on? I mean, they had the entire game already made for them, they only needed to touch it up. Other teams bust their ass to bring amazing visual effects to life from nothing, but they couldn't be assed to put in the effort to recreate a PS2 particle effect in HD? Really? Really?

These aren't just games, they're gems. If you can't do justice to them then just don't do it. They lost my fucking purchase, man. I'm staying with my OG MGS2.

 

[fuzzyreactor]

I wonder what else is Bluepoint working on? I mean, they had the entire game already made for them, they only needed to touch it up. Other teams bust their ass to bring amazing visual effects to life from nothing, but they couldn't be assed to put in the effort to recreate a PS2 particle effect in HD? Really? Really?

These aren't just games, they're gems. If you can't do justice to them then just don't do it. They lost my fucking purchase, man. I'm staying with my OG MGS2.

are people really freaking out about downgraded rain? lol

ill take HD over better rain effects any day

 

[IsntChrisL]

I can't wait to get this... after a price drop. Sad that it's actually missing things though.

 

[Crazymoogle]

Probably just yet another case of a near-shipping bug that broke something else. Outcry so Konami knows that it needs to be fixed, sure, but come on, it's not like they just slapped the PS2 ISO on a Blu-ray.

(Starts a quick big shell run to check...)

 

[rvy]

are people really freaking out about downgraded rain? lol

ill take HD over better rain effects any day

People are freaking about a game released in 2001 being downgraded in 2011. Yeah. Fucking shock and awe.

 

[icespide]

the rain looked fine to me. PS3 version

 

[CloakedPuppet]

MGS2 looks fantastic to me so far (PS3). Makes my mind boggle at what Kojima will pull off with his new engine.