Would make sense as its not the real boss so he wouldnt have memories of Volgin and plus if i recall he doesnt know he's 'big boss' yet. But yesh the fire thing was dumb for volgin, but electricity would have made it way to ovious it was volgin
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Metal Gear Solid V SPOILER THREAD| [EXTR3ME] Such a lust for conclusion, T-WHHOOOO
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Would make sense as its not the real boss so he wouldnt have memories of Volgin and plus if i recall he doesnt know he's 'big boss' yet. But yesh the fire thing was dumb for volgin, but electricity would have made it way to ovious it was volgin
I spent three hours on killing Skulls for the optional task in Code Talker Extreme.
This is maybe the hardest thing in the game. First I thought "Well, with a tank, it would be easy."
No, those things blow a tank like nothing. So I engaged a three hours fight sniper vs sniper, I died a fucktons of times, but in the end, I did it.
Quiet Extreme is a piece of cake compared to this.
This is maybe the hardest thing in the game. First I thought "Well, with a tank, it would be easy."
No, those things blow a tank like nothing. So I engaged a three hours fight sniper vs sniper, I died a fucktons of times, but in the end, I did it.
Quiet Extreme is a piece of cake compared to this.
Had a non-gamer friend over last night, who was very impressed with this game. We played it from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. I shared many of the key story beats and played a number of levels. The sheer absurdity of Quiet's depiction is such a great way to kick off things. Watching her ridiculous behavior in the ACC is guaranteed to bring LOLs and WTFs. And this was followed by deep conversation about how media depicts women -- concepts like the manic pixie dream girl, etc. Most likely NOT what Kojima intended, but it makes for good times nonetheless.
I've come to see Quiet as a concept with two sides. A good side, and a bad side. An intentional side, and a likely unintentional side.
On the one side the is the narratively interesting idea of a coldblooded monster who comes to feel affection for an enemy that repeatedly spares her, forgives her and trusts her. She develops something akin to a heart, something resembling humanity when before she was more or less a living weapon. This is the good side. I like this side.
The other side, of course, is the side I find... complicated. The camera's lust for her, and the inexplicable posing, which together border on parody. A small part of me still wonders if Kojima is trying to make a point, but I doubt it. Still, it's just so... brazen, and on the nose that I can't help but wonder if there's something intentional to the depiction. Something beyond "pop a boner, boys!"
Probably not. It's baffling, lol. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy Quiet in this game.
I've come to see Quiet as a concept with two sides. A good side, and a bad side. An intentional side, and a likely unintentional side.
On the one side the is the narratively interesting idea of a coldblooded monster who comes to feel affection for an enemy that repeatedly spares her, forgives her and trusts her. She develops something akin to a heart, something resembling humanity when before she was more or less a living weapon. This is the good side. I like this side.
The other side, of course, is the side I find... complicated. The camera's lust for her, and the inexplicable posing, which together border on parody. A small part of me still wonders if Kojima is trying to make a point, but I doubt it. Still, it's just so... brazen, and on the nose that I can't help but wonder if there's something intentional to the depiction. Something beyond "pop a boner, boys!"
Probably not. It's baffling, lol. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy Quiet in this game.
I don't know... I don't think there was suppose to be any real mystery that it was Volgin, the first time you saw him in trailers you immediately think "I know that outfit, that's Volgin" and then you assume he's probably a Mantis Hallucination.
...What about this is cut? they literally don't mention cut content anywhere.
There's nothing about cut content in here.
The Silver
Member
"This skull face represents the human side that he lost, and the same thing happens to Big Boss, who becomes a skull in his quest for revenge he also loses some of his human side."
yeah ok Kojima sure........
Yeah, that bit seems off. If anything, Venom gains a human side.
SmartWaffles
Member
Get the anti material sniper rifle and climb to the top of the hangar. It is actually the easiest extreme mission that can be done in minutes without using any gimmicks (if climbing to the top of the hangar doesn't count lol).
That's not the same mission. You're talking about Metallic Archaea, he's talking about Code Talker. Code Talker is where you're fighting the sniper skulls in the jungle. No hangar.
The problem is that the game gives you too much freedom, if you play the Hero, you'll be the hero, and the way the game is marketed is to imply everyone should play Venom in a way that is fucked up and Volatile, going for maximum demon points, but there's no apparent benefit for doing so.
Hellwarden
Member
Posted? Skullface: In Summary.
But Venom's lack of caring mirrored my own. Just like how Big Boss didn't care about his soldiers! And how Kojima and Konami didn't care about the quality of the game!
GUYS WE'RE ALL BIG BOSS BECAUSE NONE OF US CARE!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Doesn't say venom though
But then again, all BB did was sit on a bike and light up a Cigar. He didn't do anything at all besides helping Venom escape from a hospital to warrant any criticism.*
* i know the implied things he did, but i'm talking about what we SAW in the game.
The marketing is misleading, yes. I don't hold that against the game itself, though, which is still good in and of itself.
Stereogatari
Banned
I've got bad news for you bro.
You can do that mission without fighting The Skulls.
He said he's going for the optional task where you must defeat them
It's a cryptic hint for where the second bomb was hidden.Well, haven't finished the game yet, but it took me 150 hours to realize that the scar on Paz' stomach is shaped like a V. I haven't reached the end yet, but this could have been a cool twist with the whole "V has come to" thing. I bet it isn't, though
Skullface has a sick sense of humor.
SmartWaffles
Member
Oh shit I keeps thinking about that mission. Yeah that one is pretty tough. But as the above post stated you can completely skip the skulls. Hint: night vision goggles and the waterfall.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
but it's the V for Victory, aka her symbol from PW and not
V for vagina , though i won't put that beyond kojima either.
, though i won't put that beyond kojima either.Doesn't say venom though
But then again, all BB did was sit on a bike and light up a Cigar. He didn't do anything at all besides helping Venom escape from a hospital to warrant any criticism.*.
I think it's quite obvious what happened here.
Some time ago, our Kojima switched places with a Kojima from alternate world- a world where they got a narratively focused MGSV where you play as Big Boss who trains child soldiers and descends into evil whilst building Outer Heaven.
Right now, they're confused as fuck why our Kojima is sprouting nonsense about he knew no one would see the twist coming and how Venom becoming more heroic is commentary on players in general.
Regarding the Skull Face speech.
You can actually use the idroid while he's talking, so like managed your base or put Take on Me on, you can just ignore him.
While you can move the camera on the sequence, it's actually a cutscene, you can skip it, not just the jeep part but the part where you follow him.
That mission is good for farming resources so being able to just skip all that is great.
You can actually use the idroid while he's talking, so like managed your base or put Take on Me on, you can just ignore him.
While you can move the camera on the sequence, it's actually a cutscene, you can skip it, not just the jeep part but the part where you follow him.
That mission is good for farming resources so being able to just skip all that is great.
Ah now i get it
V.g..a has come to. That makes sense
Another thing: looking back at the history of Metal Gear Games can we safely assume that Skullface was not intended to stay dead?
I haven't played GoP. Is there a connection between Skullface and Vamp? It would be too obvious I know, but hey Kojima had almost 200 countries to choose from, why Romania?
It's symbolic, representing Kojima tuning out the concerns of his editor.
If you want the optional task only: use one of the stealth items that make you invisible + use a Brennan sniper rifle, and you'll be done in under 10 minutes
But he's trying NOT to skip the skulls. There's an optional mission task where you must defeat all four of them. He's trying to 100% the mission by doing all of the mission tasks.
Hey man lets be straight up there ain't a shred of anything beyond "lol tits" when it comes to Quiet's looks and the camera placement. Its not a parody of over-sexualization in media or whatever people are going to say it is. If I may, my daddy used to say "Son sometimes a spade is a metaphysical representation of the struggle of the common laborer in a industrial capitalist society, but usually its just a spade.
thequickandthedead
Member
wait... Did Venom have a "flashback" of him shoving his hand up Paz's vagina?
Hey, I more or less concluded the same thing as you. It's just baffling to think Kojima could be so blatant. It's like hiding in plain sight, an 800-lb gorilla in the room. Which is why a small part of me wonders if he's self-aware. But I guess not.
Well he imagined himself shoving his hand up Paz's vagina on the helicopter.
KOMANI
KOMANI
SmartWaffles
Member
Yes, it was him manipulating his memory thinking he actually found the second bomb so Paz didn't die, which further letting him believing Paz at Mother Base is real.
petethepanda
Member
This has been my last hour with this stupid game.
Have enough materials now for the final platforms and the nuke, now just for the rest of the S ranks and mission objectives.
Have enough materials now for the final platforms and the nuke, now just for the rest of the S ranks and mission objectives.
Permanently A
Junior Member
No, you played as the Legendary Big Medic, with an unrivaled lust for not talking.
KOMANI
KOMANI
His Memory wasn't the only thing he was "manipulating"
WHOOOOOOOOOO-HA!
Honestly if Kojima had been more honest about the real reason for Quiet's attire I would've been like "Let your freak flag fly brother!", but he tried for the lame justifications and it really soured my opinion of him.
Yes. But no. YOU are that random schmuck. All male long time players get represented here (sorry chicks) and finally get to become Big Boss, the long dream we've always wanted right? Feel proud that one day you'll die by the hands of Solid Snake.
Stereogatari
Banned
So how do I unlock the Paz mission? Is it a main mission? Do I have to collect photos?
Oh right lol.
YOU are Big Boss. I am Big Boss. WE'RE ALL BIG BOSS.
Oh right lol.
YOU are Big Boss. I am Big Boss. WE'RE ALL BIG BOSS.
I just realized something, I know the main cast for this game is very small but is Quiet seriously the only lady, and all the African child soldiers need a British kid too lead them?
Kojima only sleeps four hours a night because he's standing by Stefanie Joosten's window watching her sleep:
She is a very, very attractive woman, but seriously Hannibal fans she does kinda look like Mason Verger right? I'm not the only one seeing it?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You rescue a bunch of female prisoners who become soldiers on motherbase afterwards. You can see them on the base.
I always dreamed I would contribute to the legacy of Big Boss by doing a bunch of stuff no one remembers or talks about ever again.
Kojima only sleeps four hours a night because he's standing by Stefanie Joosten's window watching her sleep:
aaahhhhh.......I guess I won't sleep for 8 hours this night.
I meant main cast, the other games we usually average around three or so semi-important lady folk, but like I said the main cast is very small so its not really a condemnation.
But you get to die an ultimately pointless death too a rookie operative, isn't everything thing you ever wanted?
The setup with the white child leading the black children seems intentional. There is a tape that notes how the leader of the child soldiers is a fair-skinned child. The name "White Mamba" is the locals' reference to this. It's kind of like a microcosm of Africa's colonial past, but at the same time not really, since Eli didn't have any material advantage over the people he was coercing. He was just super-smart and ruthless.
Regarding the female cast, I can only think of three characters: Quiet, Paz, and the Sniper Skulls. The skulls are hardly characters -- four unnamed individuals who function strictly as enemies. Paz is an illusion, of course. And Quiet... Well, we've said enough about her, lol.
There are the occasional women you rescue, and you can play as them, but they're not really characters either, for obvious reasons.
Yes she is which is one of the main reasons I hate her inclusion in the game. Like, the only female character we get and the camera can't stop looking at her tits and ass. Plus she has a terrible characterization in general too. So we don't get any interesting characters like the Boss, Eva, or Naomi. Literally the only female character we get is reduced to a sex object that doesn't even speak. But I've already posted my long rant on why I hate Quiet so I won't go into further detail.
You can count Paz but she's literally a figment of Venom's imagination. But at least the moments with her was breath of fresh air.