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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT2| A Franchise Robbed Of Its Future
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Phoenix944
Member
1) how do we pet DD on motherbase ? I was trying to do it through action button but bitch slapped him instead
2) I don't see any options for FOB so far ?
3) are we eventually allowed to carry more than two primary guns ?
4) how do I get the transportation specialist
5) how do I make more potent tranqulizers
1) take him with you on a mission then come back to MB. He should be here with you, and you can pet him with triangle/Y
2) it's unlocked after mission 22
3) nope
4) one of the prisoner on mission 15 has this skill
5) you have a sniper later on (R&D)
I seriously can't deal with how many options you have to dispose of enemies. Look at this clip. It's glorious.
http://xboxclips.com/Keynwar/2ed7e304-b768-4f38-9975-81a4bc286ad1
Possible, very minor spoilers regarding what kind of equipment you can unlock a few dozen hours into the game. No story spoilers at all.
http://xboxclips.com/Keynwar/2ed7e304-b768-4f38-9975-81a4bc286ad1
Possible, very minor spoilers regarding what kind of equipment you can unlock a few dozen hours into the game. No story spoilers at all.
ginger ninja
Banned
Makes sense since I have only done 7 missions in 22 hours.
FriedCalamari
Member
My God, farming fuel resources in this game is even worse than relic iron farming in the early days of Destiny. It's also complete bullshit that you have to wait for it to be processed. Shitty f2p-esque design.
IIRC he's on record saying he would! That he always wanted the infiltration aspects to be fully playable.
That's what I meant. See immediately below.
I think that one, the Hind D scene, is definitely the exception. The majority of cutscenes in earlier MGS's – MGS4 was the worst offender by far – really weren't necessary. In MGSV the Hind D scene would be covered by the player taking cover and looking at the chopper taking off, and Kaz just saying 'That's a Hind D...' The same thing would happen, but we'd be on the ground watching it. And this does happen throughout MGSV. Frequently. I can imagine long stretches of MGSV as cutscenes, particularly at the start/end of many missions. And I'm glad they're not.
I think this sense of 'story beats' would be improved, however, if Snake did talk more in-mission. I think this is a real killer for a lot of players. And it is a bit odd, quite often. I justify it for myself by thinking that he's still suffering from PTSD/coma damage, so doesn't speak much because of that. But anyway.
That's kind of what I'm saying, but not 100%. I'm also not sure about "sparse" to describe the storyline. It can describe pacing, yes, but not the whole story (up to where I am). Including codecs and tapes, say hypothetically:
MGS1: 3 hours of cutscenes total, 6 hours of gameplay. Ratio 3:6 (or 1:2).
MGS4: 11 hours of cutscene total, 6 hours of gameplay. Ratio 11:6.
MGSV: 16 hours of cutscene total, 60 hours of gameplay. Ratio 16:60 (or 4:15).
This is hypothetical, I haven't finished the game, but say the above was accurate. There would be actually more story beats - backstory and plot - in MGSV, but it's just paced differently. Spread out in a gameplay-first experience. So the pacing is sparse, but the storyline isn't.
It's just semantics at this point I suppose
lucablight
Member
How do you view a buddy's bond level?
That is indeed the question, and I'm sure for many players the off kilter nature of the MGS series is actually a big part of its charm.
And yes, domestication vs foreignisation is one of main points of contention in the field of translation studies, but that discussion is better left for another thread.
Lanrutcon
Member
The open world structure is definitely damaging to having a certain kind of story.
Gameplay's top notch, though.
Wenn you start a mission and choose your Loadout you can see it on the right side of the screen when choosing your buddy.
PositronicMan
Member
So I finally noticed that destroying radio equipment and radar dishes are persistent, anything else that seems persistent in the open world that I may be missing?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
fluffydelusions
Member
Target practice side ops are so so...bleh. Nope not doing them
I like it, personally. I don't think it's sparse. Whenever I think 'Man, I want some story', I put on a tape, and that tides me over. There are enough things happening throughout but I can focus on gameplay.
By the end I might feel differently, though.
End of mission screen.
Otherwise, I go to Development on the iDroid, and go to Buddies development subset. Then look at a weapon or item for the buddy you're interested in, and a panel will pop up saying what R&D level you need for the item, etc. At the bottom of this panel it will have columns for 'Required bond level' and 'Current bond level'.
That's usually how I check it.
Got Quiet at 100. Yeah, baby.
... Or this. This is a much better way than either of the ones above.
They're all good imo except the R&D one which is a clusterfuck nightmare.
I recommend doing them all except that one.
Phoenix944
Member
Omg... Some dude stole all my unprocessed resources (12k each)... And I can't even retaliate.
I'm mad.
I'm mad.
I like doing them while listening to some music tapes.
MrS
Banned
So Mission 30 didn't feel like MGS to you? Stahp
Easy but time consuming. S ranks are easy, look up PowerPyx's vids on YouTube if you need a walk through. The boring part is gonna be mission tasks and animal capture.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
Super interesting hearing peoples opinions of the game as opposed to what the reviews have been saying. Lots of 9's and 10's and saying the story is great in the reviews, and a lot of people not liking the story or it's structure at all on here.
I'm only on mission 15 I think and the story seems OK so far I guess. There are small moments where that "Metal Gear feel" seeps through but then it quickly evaporates and just turns back into a souped up splinter cell game.
I'm not too sure what to think of it to be honest. The gameplay is rock solid and infiltrating different areas never gets old for me, but I'm really just not sure what to think of it right now.
I'm only on mission 15 I think and the story seems OK so far I guess. There are small moments where that "Metal Gear feel" seeps through but then it quickly evaporates and just turns back into a souped up splinter cell game.
I'm not too sure what to think of it to be honest. The gameplay is rock solid and infiltrating different areas never gets old for me, but I'm really just not sure what to think of it right now.
BudokaiMR2
Member
Like 99% sure he comes over depending on your GZ save progress.
Did you play Ground Zeroes?
Kenzodielocke
Banned
What the fuck. Guy writes a spoiler about mission 41 and I click on that as I've done that mission but that's a spoiler. It happened a couple of times now and it really annoys me. What's up with that?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
IIRC he's on record saying he would! That he always wanted the infiltration aspects to be fully playable.
That's what I meant. See immediately below.
I think that one, the Hind D scene, is definitely the exception. The majority of cutscenes in earlier MGS's – MGS4 was the worst offender by far – really weren't necessary. In MGSV the Hind D scene would be covered by the player taking cover and looking at the chopper taking off, and Kaz just saying 'That's a Hind D...' The same thing would happen, but we'd be on the ground watching it. And this does happen throughout MGSV. Frequently. I can imagine long stretches of MGSV as cutscenes, particularly at the start/end of many missions. And I'm glad they're not.
I think this sense of 'story beats' would be improved, however, if Snake did talk more in-mission. I think this is a real killer for a lot of players. And it is a bit odd, quite often. I justify it for myself by thinking that he's still suffering from PTSD/coma damage, so doesn't speak much because of that. But anyway.
That's kind of what I'm saying, but not 100%. I'm also not sure about "sparse" to describe the storyline. It can describe pacing, yes, but not the whole story (up to where I am). Including codecs and tapes, say hypothetically:
MGS1: 3 hours of cutscenes total, 6 hours of gameplay. Ratio 3:6 (or 1:2).
MGS4: 11 hours of cutscene total, 6 hours of gameplay. Ratio 11:6.
MGSV: 16 hours of cutscene total, 60 hours of gameplay. Ratio 16:60 (or 4:15).
This is hypothetical, I haven't finished the game, but say the above was accurate. There would be actually more story beats - backstory and plot - in MGSV, but it's just paced differently. Spread out in a gameplay-first experience. So the pacing is sparse, but the storyline isn't.
It's just semantics at this point I suppose
I'm not sure if I actually feel like the cutscene distribution explains it all. I actually think there are less cutscenes in MGSV. But I'd need to finish it to say for sure.
The only thing it would take for me to feel certainly "classic" would be more scripted story events at certain gameplay checkpoints. More real time conversation to and from mission points. More set pieces, like hiding amongst an army as they hear a speech from a commander (a la Dolph in MGS2).
But at the same time, that would sacrifice the purity of the open world, real time emergence, wouldn't it?
I'm okay with MGSV being its own thing. But I do think the story is spectacularly non-structured, considering the source. Seems like there is less story, and it's a reaction to the excess of MGS4. I kind of like it for now, though there is potential for story growth in this gameplay formula (alas, Konami).
eso76
Member
Opinions !
It's a flawed masterpiece.
I personally think it's far too long (20hrs and still story mission 14..not even 25% done in the main campaign, around 15% overall completion) but there's a constant drip of little new things you unlock that make you go on and play some more, "some more" quickly becomes a whole new mission, new story tidbits, new unlocks you want to experiment with etc.
Step by step I did yesterday:
1) Start the mission with DD horse or vehicle + a rocket laucher
2) Go straight to airport
3) Find the truck behind the building with the sniper (going all the way through the right there is just one guy to tranq. The sniper wont see you and you can go up a stairs and jump right in front of the truck.
4) Behind this building with the sniper you can fulton both the tanks and the truck will be parked. Tranq everyone and go to the truck
5) Rocket the sh*t out of everybody. I had to use the call for supplies once to get more ammo for the last 2 skulls (but you can bring them down with any other machine gun).
6) Fulton the truck and run back to your car.
2) Go straight to airport
3) Find the truck behind the building with the sniper (going all the way through the right there is just one guy to tranq. The sniper wont see you and you can go up a stairs and jump right in front of the truck.
4) Behind this building with the sniper you can fulton both the tanks and the truck will be parked. Tranq everyone and go to the truck
5) Rocket the sh*t out of everybody. I had to use the call for supplies once to get more ammo for the last 2 skulls (but you can bring them down with any other machine gun).
6) Fulton the truck and run back to your car.
Rockman Wright
Banned
Hey i have just one question! I completed a bunch of sides ops, but i'm short on money! (doesn't happen a lot, but here i am)
What happen if i go to the edge of the map? The idroid voice tell's me "caution, you are about to leave the mission area"
what happen if i do that? do i go back to mother base or do i get a game over? that ould spare me to call the chopper if i can just go back like that
What happen if i go to the edge of the map? The idroid voice tell's me "caution, you are about to leave the mission area"
what happen if i do that? do i go back to mother base or do i get a game over? that ould spare me to call the chopper if i can just go back like that
But thats the reason why we take out the anti air radar
Why don't you just try it? It's a game, you're allowed to experiment.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Press the select button to go to the game menu (not the idroid menu)
Then click return to acc!
How far into the game are you out of curiosity? I have never had money problems but you have me worried lol
BudokaiMR2
Member
Not sure if serious or not, but yellowcake is actually an official moniker for a certain type of uranium...
That skit is hilarious though!
Mechanical Snowman
Member
Did not see those menus, gah. I can't even remember them being explained to me!
Thanks, that is indeed very useful.
I don't believe that's true. I wouldn't even say it hasn't been done before. Certainly not to Metal Gear's level of story, sure. But there have been good open world games with good stories before.
i find the gun limitation on the field is a more and more annoying design decision the more i play...
you get SOME warning if heavily armoured vehicles are going to show up since it says missiles are recommended. but there have been so many times i've gone through an entire mission with non-lethal means, only to find something at the end which would have been a damn sight easier if i'd have brought some explosives or a rocket launcher with me (walker gears, attack choppers, skull squad).
it's a game all about choice in approach, but then limits you from the outset of a mission. if this game had past MGS's bottomless inventories the choices in combat would be much greater and much more fun imo.
you get SOME warning if heavily armoured vehicles are going to show up since it says missiles are recommended. but there have been so many times i've gone through an entire mission with non-lethal means, only to find something at the end which would have been a damn sight easier if i'd have brought some explosives or a rocket launcher with me (walker gears, attack choppers, skull squad).
it's a game all about choice in approach, but then limits you from the outset of a mission. if this game had past MGS's bottomless inventories the choices in combat would be much greater and much more fun imo.
Rockman Wright
Banned
returning to acc doesn't cost anything or lost progress? Well i am officially stupid!
to answer to your question don't worry about money, it's just that a developped lot of thing and i realised that i had only 100'000 left (and when i start a mission it cost me 20'000-30'000, and i want to extract a lot)
it already happened once but i quickly got back at 1,5 million with side ops etc...
the_batman
Banned
bruh. you can request supply drops.
Not sure if serious or not, but yellowcake is actually an official moniker for a certain type of uranium...
That skit is hilarious though!
Ah! So Dave actually used an official moniker in a literal sense. Thanks for the explanation lol. I thought that the
yellow cake
The last time he gave us a linear story driven 'cinematic' game - it was called MGS4.
Thank god, he doesn't listens to fans like you.
Mechanical Snowman
Member
But you can just call in supply drops of new weapons. Also, having C4 always in your loadout is the way to go.
I quite like choosing your loadout based on the mission description / what you think might go down. Makes it feel more realistic being dropped in and having to utilize your limited equipment the most efficient way you can.
In an earlier post I said that there have been a handful of story missions which totally nailed it, including that one
I'm mainly chatting about all the filler-like missions, eg 'blow up these tanks' or 'rescue these prisoners'. They're amazing but don't feel like MGS.
Playing Subsistence versions? They sure feel like MGS. Not having all your kit there to deploy at a moment's notice is a game-changer for me.
I guess the idea is that anti-air radar stops you from being blown up by anti-air emplacements. It allows you to land quickly and safely. But even with anti-air blown up, dudes still physically see the chopper flying in and raise the alarm of the whole region. So my point is that if you could press square to fly between helicopter points, guys would be constantly seeing you and raising the alert level and you have no control over the chopper so it would be crazy infuriating.
My argument is obtuse, but I bet KojiPro tested all this and it just didn't work, even with lots of testing, for whatever reason.