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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT2| A Franchise Robbed Of Its Future
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So it isnt worth it then? Good. I can just blow shit up on these last few missions. Been stealthing the entire game waiting for an opportunity to use
dwalker
When people play like this, it makes me want to rip my hair out. This is why I cannot stand watching others play "lets plays" and what not. No offense, but you let everything goto shit.
"Prisoner died"
Heroism loss
Heroism loss again
Base on high alert status
C'mon bro, you're supposed to make sure everyone gets out safe. And snake never gets caught
Starts flailing arms around wildly.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
lmao that was badass! Drive-by horsing then the way you escaped under the bridge.
You can blow shit up and still get S ranks.
No you cant. A lot of missions end in failure if you go in guns blazing. You may kill the wrong guy. There are missions where you cannot shoot down a helicopter. This means if you draw its attention you fail.
As a side note, it is usually better to capture the badguys (gunsmiths, vehicles, etc) so you can later on make use of them. this game punishes wild play. I am at the end now, and just want to kill everything now after holding back. I try not raise any alarms.
Edit: Also, I'd like to use my stealth camo gadget once (but it auto restricts you to A rank or lower). Also, Air strikes for major BOOMAGE.
Summer Haze
Banned
Thanks.
I love the how smooth the animations are in this game. The transition from hanging on the side of your horse to letting go and doing a little combat roll. So good.
Yeah I've gotten S ranks blowing up shit. Depends on the mission obviously.
KittenMaster
Member
Use side ops to play with an explosive, loud style.
The only instances I can think of where you instantly fail for killing the wrong guy is if you kill a prisoner you're supposed to save or a Mother Base staff member. Lethal force doesn't disqualify you from S ranks. What missions have helicopters you can't shoot down? I've never had the game stop me from doing so.
Lanrutcon
Member
You get better results mostly because what you save a lot of time, and time is the most important thing when calculating rank.
You would be amazed at how many missions were not designed to handle the player going in with a tank.
I've been back to Mother Base plenty of times... Is my game bugged or something, since no one else seems to have this problem??
KittenMaster
Member
I still feel like it's a huge misconception that time is the most important for S-Ranking. I've gotten S-Ranks playing incredibly slowly on missions taking a perfect stealth approach.
I think the reason time is seen as the most important is because it lets you make up for missing a lot of other bonuses, thus allowing non-stealth speedrun approaches to be possible S-ranks
Yes and yes. Uhm, my last mission was 40-something where
I had to blast a shitload of thanks with Quiet.
Really?
That's the last unique story mission. To see the true ending you need to play Mission 46 which is a repeat of an earlier mission. It unlocked at the same time as the Quiet mission for me so I'd be surprised if you don't have it.
Frank the Great
Banned
I just did that mission and I have the same question! I have a theory that he is (speculation, possibly a spoiler if I'm right)
a young Liquid Snake. Although my only basis for thinking that is that they are both blonde and this is post Les Enfants Terrible. And they are both douchebags I guess.
I'm always unsure of whether to spoiler tag theories.
Ok this games getting on my nerves today. It's been 4 hours. Missions 45 46 and side op 150 wont unlock. Ive listened to all cassettes, done all the right missions and side ops. Done tons of random missions and side ops and nothing. Been to mother base 20+ times. No butterfly emblem. Nothing. Wtf gives. Am I missing a certain part of the base im supposed to visit? I went to hueys lab that did nada. Someone help before I just say screw it and watch the cutscenes on YouTube and then be mad at myself
It's the best MGS game ever, no contest. So, don't be worried, it's a great experience. The story only gets worse as the game goes on, especially if you expected some closure to the MGS saga, but just between us: MGS stories never were good to begin with. MGS4 and Peace Walker already set the stage for truly terrible stories even.
Frank the Great
Banned
I know you said you did all the right missions and side ops but just to make sure, you've rescued all the child soldiers and had the second outbreak happen, right? Huey has been cast out?
Hot tip for developing: you probably have WAY too many resources.
I just checked and I had like 180k Biological materials. I sold a bunch and added up in total to almost 10mil while still having a bunch left over. I just developed a TON OF weapons and have way more customization options now.
I just checked and I had like 180k Biological materials. I sold a bunch and added up in total to almost 10mil while still having a bunch left over. I just developed a TON OF weapons and have way more customization options now.
Fractology
Member
I love this game to bits...but it does certain early-on introductions to mechanics a bit poorly leading to people not realizing certain key gameplay functions even after over 100 hours of gameplay.
Example: Communications disruptions to HQ to halt reinforcements. One of the first missions in the game (I believe it's #3) tells you to destroy the radar dishes, of which there are three in that one outpost, to disrupt communications when all you really have to do is destroy the one radio receiver device with a blinking blue light on it. I spent a stupid amount of time sloppily and loudly blowing up shit in bases, because of that mission explicitly telling me I had to, when I wish I knew that all I needed to take out was the radio receiver. Also they get repaired and don't really last for that long anyway which is both a cool thing but also a bit of an annoyance.
Example: Communications disruptions to HQ to halt reinforcements. One of the first missions in the game (I believe it's #3) tells you to destroy the radar dishes, of which there are three in that one outpost, to disrupt communications when all you really have to do is destroy the one radio receiver device with a blinking blue light on it. I spent a stupid amount of time sloppily and loudly blowing up shit in bases, because of that mission explicitly telling me I had to, when I wish I knew that all I needed to take out was the radio receiver. Also they get repaired and don't really last for that long anyway which is both a cool thing but also a bit of an annoyance.
I'm remembering one of my favourite parts of this game, which was actually completely coincidental.
It was mission 10 where you extract the prisoner who is guarded by the tank.
It just so happened that when I started the mission, in about 40 seconds a sandstorm would begin. It was timed so that I basically had exactly enough time to land in the helicopter, hop on D-horse, then run in the base EXACTLY as the sandstorm started.
I spent 3 hours perfecting this method of running up the field, holding up the enemies, getting the enemies to sleep, sneaking in and extracting the bonus prisoners, and then driving away with the prisoner.
That final execution felt god damned incredible. It was a perfect execution of A - B - C that ended in me driving away, the truck and tank never even getting a chance to leave the home village, and everyone either held up or incapacitated in the base behind me.
What a thrill.
I love how you rode by on your horse, then smacked the ammo out of the enemies hand.
It was mission 10 where you extract the prisoner who is guarded by the tank.
It just so happened that when I started the mission, in about 40 seconds a sandstorm would begin. It was timed so that I basically had exactly enough time to land in the helicopter, hop on D-horse, then run in the base EXACTLY as the sandstorm started.
I spent 3 hours perfecting this method of running up the field, holding up the enemies, getting the enemies to sleep, sneaking in and extracting the bonus prisoners, and then driving away with the prisoner.
That final execution felt god damned incredible. It was a perfect execution of A - B - C that ended in me driving away, the truck and tank never even getting a chance to leave the home village, and everyone either held up or incapacitated in the base behind me.
What a thrill.
I love how you rode by on your horse, then smacked the ammo out of the enemies hand.
Didn't one of the mission tasks mention just blowing the transmitter? I could be wrong, lol.
RedlineRonin
Member
This blows my mind. I'm at 112 hrs and idk what else i would even do. I don't plan to S rank all missions, but idk if that would take another 88 hours if I did. I can't fathom 200 hrs of this game.
P.s. I prolly even put ~15 into fob stuff
bobawesome
Member
Anybody?
I think its a difference between "objective based fun" and "exploration based fun."
Look at some of the videos where people are doing stuff like setting 8 C4 underneath a jeep filled with decoy balloons and launching it to fall on an enemies head the exact moment they're about to shoot the player.
People can get into crazy antics like that which absorb massive amounts of time, and have a blast doing it.
NEOPARADIGM
Banned
Yes.
Yup. It actually just popped. After 4 hours and tons of random side ops. Well missions 46 and side op 150 popped. Mission 45 still hasn't. No clue why. And yes that cutscene popped. My bond is maxed too
Fractology
Member
It does...but it's one of the secret mission tasks and just says something like "Blow up the radio transmitter." Nothing about that resulting in disrupting all communications. I thought it was just one more thing to blow up in order to take down the whole network of communications. If you do it accidentally during that mission it will say "good job! now you can leave" but even then it doesn't explicitly say that's all you need.
It's weird. That's just one example too. There's more.
Also...unrelated but has anyone figured out / guessed why the Mother Base platforms are so goddamn far out from the Command Platform? I figured at first I'd expand along the struts out to them but...doesn't seem like it?
Summer Haze
Banned
Ha, I don't even notice that.
Hank Scorpio
Member
Who is the 'Gunsmith' that sent
and his squad to the Masa village in Africa where you extract said spoiler?
This is mentioned in the final conversation between the
in Mission:
. The
.
Is the 'Gunsmith'
?
Eli....
This is mentioned in the final conversation between the
Arms Dealer and CFA official
The War Economy
Arms Dealer specifically mentions the Gunsmith's 'brats'
Is the 'Gunsmith'
Skullface
Phoenix944
Member
Depends. Are you using the helicopter as a support ?
It's a great support but I almost never use it. It's too loud
Hank Scorpio
Member
How do you increase bond with DHorse?
I use him in missions but only to get to the base etc. Does he have any useful skills? I know about the poop.
I use him in missions but only to get to the base etc. Does he have any useful skills? I know about the poop.
If you enjoy calling in Pequod to hot LZ's and having him take care of business, sure.
I upgraded Pequod with rockets/missiles/flares/armor but it raised the GMP usage. So I went back to its stock setting.
Depends. Are you using the helicopter as a support ?
It's a great support but I almost never use it. It's too loud
Im using the heli support on some Side Ops. It's pretty cool if you have it upgraded
Depends. Are you using the helicopter as a support ?
It's a great support but I almost never use it. It's too loud
OK, I see. Maybe he will be useful for clearing hot LZs.
Will destroy anti air radars and turrents by himself? Or will he aim for soldiers?
Precious Metal was my jam. I developed til I couldn't have any more things developing anymore. Now I'm out of stuff to develop and have to use my most expensive loadouts and deploy just to spend enough money to accept my FOB defense rewards.
Ahhh yes it did. That mission was really fun. Too bad a friend spoiled the ending of it for me before I even got the game.
Soooooo episode 43.
I kinda appreciated the horror-esque turn, pretty refreshing! But is this suppossed to be the ending that the average player should settle on? It kinda feels like it after that final cutscene and "We are Diamond Dogs" closing word.
If that's the case, I can totally relate to the outrage. No wait, thinking about it, there's gotta be something with Eli, the Psycho Mantis thing and the Sahelanthropus. So I guess I will finally have to touch these Redux missions to unlock more?
If that's the case, I can totally relate to the outrage. No wait, thinking about it, there's gotta be something with Eli, the Psycho Mantis thing and the Sahelanthropus. So I guess I will finally have to touch these Redux missions to unlock more?
No the real ending is mission
46
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
You still have story related missions left.
Cheers. I still wonder how they want to wrap this up within
two missions
They won't.
Once you're done with Episode
46
51
Have to tell you guys a funny thing that happened to me.
Did Mission 29 the other night, AKA the
, and as soon as the cutscene ended, I just booked it as fast as I could in the opposite direction. For whatever reason, this caused
to not detect me (OP Sneaking Suit lol), for whatever reason. I left the airport, stood on a hill, and just fired my Rocket Launcher from a safe distance. The enemies never moved, just sat there and took damage until (after like 8 supply drops) took them out.
I go back to the copter and pick up
, but the mist is still there... no idea what to do at this point. I call in Pequod and put
on, then get on myself, and Miller bitches at me for trying to "abort" the mission. So I get out, start running away, and that ass takes off while
is still on it. This did not end the mission.
At this point, I decided to explore around. Keep in mind with the mist around, there are no other enemies or animals... the entirety of Africa was blank. I went by a few camps, destroyed some communications, gathered some materials, and then I had a worrying thought - none of this is gonna save once I get a "Mission Failed" screen, I assumed. I decided to fulton myself away while holding onto a Materials Container, and boom - I'm back on the ACC, no Mission Failed/Aborted screen, and I kept everything I had gathered. Wish I had explored for longer, I just felt like I was pressing my luck to begin with. Restarting the mission fixed the issue obviously, but I love neat little glitches like that.
Did Mission 29 the other night, AKA the
Skull fight at the airport
the Skulls
I go back to the copter and pick up
Code Talker
Code Talker
Code Talker
At this point, I decided to explore around. Keep in mind with the mist around, there are no other enemies or animals... the entirety of Africa was blank. I went by a few camps, destroyed some communications, gathered some materials, and then I had a worrying thought - none of this is gonna save once I get a "Mission Failed" screen, I assumed. I decided to fulton myself away while holding onto a Materials Container, and boom - I'm back on the ACC, no Mission Failed/Aborted screen, and I kept everything I had gathered. Wish I had explored for longer, I just felt like I was pressing my luck to begin with. Restarting the mission fixed the issue obviously, but I love neat little glitches like that.