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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT2| A Franchise Robbed Of Its Future

SomTervo

Member
I started doing runs where I'd go into a side-op run with nothing. The cheapest stuff I had. I think it was an unsilenced pistol, an AK-47 and a magazine for distractions.
I'd then procure everything I needed from guards I killed.

It's actually really fun, you have to play very differently. Also, the main reason I did it, was because I never have any GMP, because I kept fultoning every single thing I found.

IIRC you unlock 'Subsistence' versions of missions later on.

In those missions you start with no equipment and have to gather it all in the field.

Read this in a review, no spoilers. I cannot fucking wait to try those missions. Proper MGS style.
 

JambiBum

Member
What the fuck mission 45


Each time at the exact same.moment there is a fucking tank SNIPING me. At a 100% accuracy
I fucking hated that mission. Had the same thing happen to me for a long time. Almost made me stop playing but I eventually finished it. There are some small buildings that you can hide behind that help a lot.
 

Sinfamy

Member
I'm disappointing you don't see any rebels in this game.
Large area of Afghanistan and not a single mujaheddin or civilian goat shepard.

MGS4 had lots of rebels and interacting with them, would have been a great addition here.
 

Greddleok

Member
IIRC you unlock 'Subsistence' versions of missions later on.

In those missions you start with no equipment and have to gather it all in the field.

Read this in a review, no spoilers. I cannot fucking wait to try those missions. Proper MGS style.

That sounds amazing. I'm actually really looking forward to chapter 2, what people say about it just sounds perfect.
 
Cheers. Good to know. Actually I played 1 and 2 when I was a kid, but fell off after that. I've found the Metal Gear Solid Movies on youtube, so I guess I can just watch 3 and Peacewalker and be good to go.
Metal Gear 2 never was released out of Japan until MGS3: Subsistence came out.

Did you play Metal Gear & Metal Gear 2 or Metal Gear Solid & Metal Gear Solid 2?
 

Hasney

Member
I'm disappointing you don't see any rebels in this game.
Large area of Afghanistan and not a single mujaheddin or civilian goat shepard.

MGS4 had lots of rebels and interacting with them, would have been a great addition here.

I always say most ames would be better with goat shepherds.

But seriously, that would have been cool. Especially if you could extract them.
 
Steam has a 70.8 MB patch for MGSV! Woohoo!

Looks to be this:
Beta 1.005 release / ベータ 1.005 リリース
Beta 1.005 has been released.


Changelist:

- Save Data is backed up now.
 When the save data can't be read from Steam Cloud, the backup save data will be now used.

===

ベータ 1.005 をリリースしました。
修正内容は以下の通りです。

・セーブデータをバックアップするようにしました。
 Steamクラウドからのセーブデータ読み込みに失敗した場合に、バックアップされたセーブデータを使うようにしました。

[Source]

This is fantastic news.
 

Blackthorn

"hello?" "this is vagina"
I'm disappointing you don't see any rebels in this game.
Large area of Afghanistan and not a single mujaheddin or civilian goat shepard.

MGS4 had lots of rebels and interacting with them, would have been a great addition here.
If Konami hadn't shitted everything up, I would have loved to see some rebel DLC that introduced warring factions MGS4 style. Cresting a hill to see a full blown battle raging below would be incredible, and the engine could certainly handle it.
 
Didn't the beta patch fix the Emblem customizer frame rate? Does this fix that too?

There was a stealth patch a day or two ago that fixed the emblem bug. Didn't even change the version number or anything--they just got it fixed ASAP.

Konami's devs skipped their vacations to make this beautiful port and still work hard to fix it. I salute their efforts. Absolutely phenomenal work.
 

Nibel

Member
Is there a way to deactivate those dumb pre-mission credits that spoil all the characters and mechas in the missions?
 
I'm disappointing you don't see any rebels in this game.
Large area of Afghanistan and not a single mujaheddin or civilian goat shepard.

MGS4 had lots of rebels and interacting with them, would have been a great addition here.
There's definitely a small amount-- very small amount-- of disappointment in that plus later in the game the grass is not nearly as complex as the grass in Snake Eater. But this game and engine are doing so much. At some point I'm sure they had to decide where they focused their attention and I think they made the right choices.
 

SomTervo

Member
Don't stare at Quiet in the ACC, it get's really weird and scary.

I'm weirdly ambivalent about how objectified Quiet is. It's fucking bad stuff when she gets close like people are discussing above, and even worse, when she turns around to sit down again, the proffers her ass right up in the players face, even making eye contact at the same time.

Maybe it's because my gf is living in a different city for a while... and I'd usually never say this sort of thing... but Quiet is fucking sexy. And she is so sexy sometimes that my reptillian brain just goes 'This is cool' and I don't think anything else about it. I just stare and mong out.

I feel pretty ashamed about this. I'm a feminist. I wrote essays about feminism and feminist fiction at university. But whenever I'm in that chopper and Quiet's there, I just have a good long look and fucking indulge in it. Then in other games I can't stand the most minor infraction against modern, feminist sensibilities.

Fuck you, Kojima, Fuck you, myself.

Hey man, how's it going? I've been taking the game nice and slow (just finished Episode 11) and trying to avoid spoilers... but some oblivious dung heaps keep putting them in thread titles, hence why I've been playing it low key.

I'm good dawg. Been wondering where you were, but assumed (reasonably it seems) that you'd be shying away to avoid spoilers etc. I've had a couple of really good story points spoiled for me already, one ITT and one in the last OT. Real bummer. But I can't keep away.

The legend of the One-Eyed Balloon King lives on.

The nightmare. The Nightmare of the One-eyed Balloon King.

I find little more satisfying than a guard seeing a colleague being Fulton'd, watching him crouch down and say, 'CP, I just saw someone get taken away by a balloo-' before I sprint out of the brush beside him and clothesline him straight in the face. 'Another ward for my kingdom...' I whisper under my breath.

That sounds amazing. I'm actually really looking forward to chapter 2, what people say about it just sounds perfect.

Same here, pal. I'm looking forward to a chance to (no spoilers, just assumptions/predictions) pause the story/main missions and just have fun with everything that came before.
 

Hasney

Member
There was a stealth patch a day or two ago that fixed the emblem bug. Didn't even change the version number or anything--they just got it fixed ASAP.

Ah sweet, good to hear!

Now if only they can get some cheat protection in for the PC version, I'll double dip for another playthrough later when my PC can handle it in 4k goodness.
 

KORNdoggy

Member
anyone wish there was more of a ramp up when it came to alerts. a couple extra guys maybe showing up is hardly a threat. they should call in APC's, then choppers, then tanks, various degree's of armored personnel. basically give the game a GTA like wanted level if you just want to cause some havoc. make it interesting when shit does hit that fan.

maybe it gets like that later. but it doesn't seem to be the case so far.
 
I'm weirdly ambivalent about how objectified Quiet is.

It's fucking bad stuff when she gets close like people are discussing above, and even worse, when she turns around to sit down again, the proffers her ass right up in the players face, even making eye contact at the same time.

Maybe it's because my gf is living in a different city for a while... and I'd usually never say this sort of thing... but Quiet is fucking sexy. And she is so sexy sometimes that my reptillian brain just goes 'This is cool' and I don't think anything else about it. I just stare and mong out.

I feel pretty ashamed about this. I'm a feminist. I wrote essays about feminism and feminist fiction at university. But whenever I'm in that chopper and Quiet's there, I just have a good long look and fucking indulge in it. Then in other games I can't stand the most minor infraction against modern, feminist sensibilities.

Fuck you, Kojima, Fuck you, myself.
She makes so much noise on the chooper it's hard not to notice her. Like, whaddya doing, Quiet?! ...Oh.

Clearly Kojima wants everyone to experience the duality of their nature. GotY.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Prisoner extraction 13 is by far the worst fucking shit I've done in the entire game. Inconsistent at its finest. I've been running around this circle for 45 minutes, in both daylight and during night with thermal and still nothing.

And no one on the entire Google has apparently either done this, or complained about it because there is no info about it.
 
Prisoner extraction 13 is by far the worst fucking shit I've done in the entire game. Inconsistent at its finest. I've been running around this circle for 45 minutes, in both daylight and during night with thermal and still nothing.

And no one on the entire Google has apparently either done this, or complained about it because there is no info about it.

Are you using D-Dog? He always finds prisoners lickity split for me.
 
I think i have experienced this adaptive gameplay people are discussing...I normally start doing my missions at night getting headshots etc and now the game has progress with the soldiers wearing helmets and bringing out the either its night vision or thermals as I can quite clearly see a red beam of light on some enemies.

This game really keeps you on your toes at all times
 

UrbanRats

Member
I'm weirdly ambivalent about how objectified Quiet is. It's fucking bad stuff when she gets close like people are discussing above, and even worse, when she turns around to sit down again, the proffers her ass right up in the players face, even making eye contact at the same time.

Maybe it's because my gf is living in a different city for a while... and I'd usually never say this sort of thing... but Quiet is fucking sexy. And she is so sexy sometimes that my reptillian brain just goes 'This is cool' and I don't think anything else about it. I just stare and mong out.

I feel pretty ashamed about this. I'm a feminist. I wrote essays about feminism and feminist fiction at university. But whenever I'm in that chopper and Quiet's there, I just have a good long look and fucking indulge in it. Then in other games I can't stand the most minor infraction against modern, feminist sensibilities.

Fuck you, Kojima, Fuck you, myself.
I'll solve your dilemma: Something can be stupid AND "sexy".

That's how normal people can withstand porn movies' plotlines.

So you can still criticize it with you evolved human brain, despite what your reptilian brain tells you. ;)
 

A-V-B

Member
I'm weirdly ambivalent about how objectified Quiet is. It's fucking bad stuff when she gets close like people are discussing above, and even worse, when she turns around to sit down again, the proffers her ass right up in the players face, even making eye contact at the same time.

Maybe it's because my gf is living in a different city for a while... and I'd usually never say this sort of thing... but Quiet is fucking sexy. And she is so sexy sometimes that my reptillian brain just goes 'This is cool' and I don't think anything else about it. I just stare and mong out.

I feel pretty ashamed about this. I'm a feminist. I wrote essays about feminism and feminist fiction at university. But whenever I'm in that chopper and Quiet's there, I just have a good long look and fucking indulge in it. Then in other games I can't stand the most minor infraction against modern, feminist sensibilities.

Fuck you, Kojima, Fuck you, myself.

Nothing wrong with a sexy woman, eh.

When she's making sexy poses because she might actually want to bone you and can't express that through words, that's fine.

It's when Kojima actually grabs the camera during a scene and points it right at her boobs and butt when it adds nothing that matches the tone of the moment... that's when it gets a bit ridiculous.
 
Some interesting stats regarding the UK sales:
Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain has launched to higher UK sales than any other game in the series so far.

Hideo Kojima's final installment beat the opening week sales of Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty by around 37 per cent.

But The Phantom Pain's sales were not enough to beat either Batman: Arkham Knight or The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, making Metal Gear Solid the third largest launch of the year.

72 per cent of MGS5 copies were sold on PlayStation 4. 22 per cent were sold on Xbox One, three per cent on PS3 and two per cent on Xbox 360.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-the-phantom-pain-is-series-biggest-uk-launch
 

Screaming Meat

Unconfirmed Member
The nightmare. The Nightmare of the One-eyed Balloon King.

I find little more satisfying than a guard seeing a colleague being Fulton'd, watching him crouch down and say, 'CP, I just saw someone get taken away by a balloo-' before I sprint out of the brush beside him and clothesline him straight in the face. 'Another ward for my kingdom...' I whisper under my breath.

u gots a perdy mouf
 
Prisoner extraction 13 is by far the worst fucking shit I've done in the entire game. Inconsistent at its finest. I've been running around this circle for 45 minutes, in both daylight and during night with thermal and still nothing.

And no one on the entire Google has apparently either done this, or complained about it because there is no info about it.

D-Dog or interrogations are your best bet. Guards always know what's up.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Is there a way to deactivate those dumb pre-mission credits that spoil all the characters and mechas in the missions?

It would be smart to be in the game. So no, it's not here.

any tips on mission 40? It's just too damn hard for me right now

This is extreme quiet right? You can bombard her with sleeping gas. At the start just try to mark her and call it in, the range is huge so she won't get out of it.
 

Woffls

Member
What the fuck mission 45

Each time at the exact same.moment there is a fucking tank SNIPING me. At a 100% accuracy
I eventually figured out that
simply firing from a different gap in the building is enough to not get hit by the magical sniper tank.

It's utter bullshit, but that should help a lot. Dreading the mission tasks for that one. :\

Also, after you beat that mission
Quiet will vanish for good
 

SomTervo

Member
I'll solve your dilemma: Something can be stupid AND "sexy".

That's how normal people can withstand porn movies' plotlines.

So you can still criticize it with you evolved human brain, despite what your reptilian brain tells you. ;)

Oh, I absolutely understand that. The problem is that, for the first time, my reptilian brain is just overriding my sentient brain. It's making me think 'This is fine'. In countless movies or games or comics or w/e, I'll think 'well she's hot, but my god she is so badly written and this scene is objectifying her and yadda yadda, I can't get past this'.

But in MGSV it's just... 'Oh... There's Quiet ... This is cool... o_o'

Self-aware brain just shuts off. I'm aware of how ridiculous her plotline is, how questionable her character design is, and how awful and sexualised the movements she makes are, and even other details with the character and how the game treats her. But that has just melted away. I just don't care. Like I fully do not give a shit.

wtf is happening to me

Nothing wrong with a sexy woman, eh.

When she's making sexy poses because she might actually want to bone you and can't express that through words, that's fine.

It's when Kojima actually grabs the camera during a scene and points it right at her boobs and butt when it adds nothing that matches the tone of the moment... that's when it gets a bit ridiculous.

There's that and then there's also the flimsy justification for her nudeness, what happens when Snake is dirty after lots of missions (and you have a high bond level with her), her insanely over-erotic movements on the chopper (which would be okay if they were twice as subtle)... None of that shit is really excusable. And in any other game/situation I'd be put off by it so much it would overwhelm how sexy she is. But this time... what is happening!

u gots a perdy mouf

'now you get to find out why they call me Snake... it's not because I'm stealthy'
 

Barrylad

Neo Member
Now that I've got the analyser, all the units unlocked and am being more active in staff management, I'm definitely going more lethal more often. I tag the highest rated guys, go silent but lethal on everyone else, and take them alive.

I really like that the game doesn't punish you for your style choice like GZ did. It feels less like you're being punished for 'playing wrong' in Phantom Pain. Absolutely loving it.
 
Got to say I read a review which at one point compared Eva to quiet. The crux of that reviewers argument was that in MGS3 Eva plays snake using her assets and as the player you were dragged into that. The fact you could press l1 to go first person and ogle her in cutscenes was less just smut for the sake of smut and more a reflection on how snakes getting played. Quiet however is just smut for the sake of it and it's almost comical how often her tits are just centred in front of the camera despite it havig no impact on snake or the other soldiers. It was a pretty interesting take on things.

Of course you could argue that quiet is trying to seduce snake but he's grown wise or you could argue that Eva wasn't actually a stroke of brilliance but was yet Kojima just being smutty but the context of the story made that work better

I should say that I don't mind either way - digital smut does nothing for me but I don't care that it's there - i just found the Eva/ quiet comparison interesting
 
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