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[Az]

I'm only up to episode 12. Would have been great if it wasn't for the intro credits.

 

[A-V-B]

I'm only up to episode 12. Would have been great if it wasn't for the intro credits.

Just look away. I do. Every time.

 

[Setsuna]

Especially for stacking buddies.

You should be able to stack all the buddies.

Snake, D-Dog and Quiet on D-Horse on D-Walker.

Another thing is that after the

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Huey

mission D walker can no longer carry people whats up with that?

 

[Sumio Mondo]

I don't really now, but the answer I got was just play the missions that pop up and you will know.

Supposedly just doing Side Ops progresses things too?

Another thing is that after the

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Huey

mission D walker can no longer carry people whats up with that?

That's why he's not a good buddy, you can't pick shit up when piloting him. It's so frustrating having to get off and on every two seconds.

 

[EatChildren]

M30 cont. spoilers: Like I'm cool with the idea of it,

Spoiler

the long car ride surrounded by Skull Face's army as he reveals his side of things. It looked fine. I'm also cool with the game having its own MGS3 ladder in this form. But yeah, I mean, this could be my least favourite cut of any cinematic sequence in the series. I can't find any salvaging. Awful one sided monologue with a senselessly silent Venom. Underwhelming use of Sins of the Father. Stilted animations. Awkward silence. Like therealminime it was almost like it was bugged out. Just awful to the point of hilarity. I mean, if you liked it you liked it, but fuck me man. For a series that usually consistently high quality in cinematography and framing, and integrating of music, even with its excessive monologues and questionable writing/performances. There's really nothing as oddly stilted and missing the mark as this in any of the games. Sins of the Father slowly creeping in, no impact of monologue or visuals, awkward stare. I'm chuckling as I type this. That has to have been rushed, given the work put into the cinematics before and after.

 

[plasmawave]

Another thing is that after the

Spoiler

Huey

mission D walker can no longer carry people whats up with that?

You need to upgrade.

 

[Alo0oy]

Especially for stacking buddies.

You should be able to stack all the buddies.

Snake, D-Dog and Quiet on D-Horse on D-Walker.

I actually haven't used D-walker at all because Quiet is so good, and I only use DD for the Mine Clearing side ops.

 

[ponpo]

Finally 157 sideops done.

Worst part of the game ahhhhh

 

[A-V-B]

I actually haven't used D-walker at all because Quiet is so good, and I only use DD for the Mine Clearing side ops.

I use Quiet for straight-up infiltrations; DD for tracking shit down like the landmines, prisoner rescues, and the wandering soldiers.

 

[Noisepurge]

I arrived at Chapter 2. Could someone summarize as spoiler-free as possible what is needed to get the true ending? If this is possible at all.

just play sideops or the replay versions of story missions, you'll get summoned to mother base at a few intervals.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Supposedly just doing Side Ops progresses things too?

I don't really know, I just keep trying to do them all.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

M30 cont. spoilers: Like I'm cool with the idea of it,

Spoiler

the long car ride surrounded by Skull Face's army as he reveals his side of things. It looked fine. I'm also cool with the game having its own MGS3 ladder in this form. But yeah, I mean, this could be my least favourite cut of any cinematic sequence in the series. I can't find any salvaging. Awful one sided monologue with a senselessly silent Venom. Underwhelming use of Sins of the Father. Stilted animations. Awkward silence. Like therealminime it was almost like it was bugged out. Just awful to the point of hilarity. I mean, if you liked it you liked it, but fuck me man. For a series that usually consistently high quality in cinematography and framing, and integrating of music, even with its excessive monologues and questionable writing/performances. There's really nothing as oddly stilted and missing the mark as this in any of the games. Sins of the Father slowly creeping in, no impact of monologue or visuals, awkward stare. I'm chuckling as I type this. That has to have been rushed, given the work put into the cinematics before and after.

Yeah, mirrors my thinking.
Which is a shame, because I really like the idea of it.

 

[Noisepurge]

M30 cont. spoilers: Like I'm cool with the idea of it,

i just wore the Night Vision Goggles halfway on and tried to zoom in on random things. It really didn't work as an emotional confrontation.

 

[Alo0oy]

I use Quiet for straight-up infiltrations; DD for tracking shit down like the landmines, prisoner rescues, and the wandering soldiers.

Quiet can take out the Wandering Soldier with one hit, FYI. Just don't alert him, point your binoculars at him and use the command "shoot (tranquilizers)".

She can also find prisoners with the "Scout" command from the map, or you can tell her to clear the guard post and then wake up one person to interrogate him, he'll tell you where the prisoner is immediately.

 

[hal9001]

This game is just so addictavley fun. I'll admit after the intial disappointment of the toned down story, the gameplay really makes up for it. Never thought a game would beat Bloodborne in the best gameplay mechanics this gen.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Are you guys also disappointed that the things you can do on Mother Base are pretty limited ? They really made a big deal out of MB, really disappointing.

 

[A-V-B]

Are you guys also disappointed that the things you can do on Mother Base are pretty limited ? They really made a big deal out of MB, really disappointing.

MB has just become a place to go to get extra cutscenes and take a shower.

 

[Alo0oy]

Are you guys also disappointed that the things you can do on Mother Base are pretty limited ? They really made a big deal out of MB, really disappointing.

I only use Motherbase for showers, and in between missions just in case there's a hidden cutscene.

 

[MrFrankFontaine]

Are you guys also disappointed that the things you can do on Mother Base are pretty limited ? They really made a big deal out of MB, really disappointing.

It feels like such a missed opportunity to not be able to do more in the base.

 

[SomTervo]

M30 cont. spoilers: Like I'm cool with the idea of it,

Spoiler

the long car ride surrounded by Skull Face's army as he reveals his side of things. It looked fine. I'm also cool with the game having its own MGS3 ladder in this form. But yeah, I mean, this could be my least favourite cut of any cinematic sequence in the series. I can't find any salvaging. Awful one sided monologue with a senselessly silent Venom. Underwhelming use of Sins of the Father. Stilted animations. Awkward silence. Like therealminime it was almost like it was bugged out. Just awful to the point of hilarity. I mean, if you liked it you liked it, but fuck me man. For a series that usually consistently high quality in cinematography and framing, and integrating of music, even with its excessive monologues and questionable writing/performances. There's really nothing as oddly stilted and missing the mark as this in any of the games. Sins of the Father slowly creeping in, no impact of monologue or visuals, awkward stare. I'm chuckling as I type this. That has to have been rushed, given the work put into the cinematics before and after.

I liked it just because I got a chance to totally steep myself in the atmosphere.

As an emotional/dramatic encounter, though it didn't work that well. Like... his animations kept repeating. Literally they repeated the same 2 minute slice of animations. It's a pretty short sequence. They should have either had him still or have one long stream of animations for every line.

Just bizarre. I was chuckling myself from time to time.

And the editing with the music was flawed, too. Liked the cutscene at the other end, though.

 

[Alo0oy]

I'm more disappointed by the lack of extra ops, they were really fun and "weird" in Peace Walker.

 

[Nibel]

How can I recruit Quiet? All she does is

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laying in her cell

. There was a cutscene

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with the helicopter

and that's all that happened. Is it a matter of time?

 

[BigTnaples]

So just met Emmerich.


Can I destroy

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her

?

 

[GeekMarty]

How can I recruit Quiet? All she does is

Spoiler

laying in her cell

. There was a cutscene

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with the helicopter

and that's all that happened. Is it a matter of time?

It's a matter of

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progression (play a couple of missions).

 

[Setsuna]

Are you guys also disappointed that the things you can do on Mother Base are pretty limited ? They really made a big deal out of MB, really disappointing.

nope mother base was always going to be just a place to be invaded and defend from

What I thought I thought you would be able to do was design your base, but you cant do that

 

[Pooya]

Mother Base is really baffling, let's make this huge huge platform where player does next to nothing in there! great idea.

 

[The Jackdog]

So i just got to chapter 2...

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was that like.....it? I know there is a true ending but does any story really happen outside of doing whatever it takes to get that ending? Or was that, for the most part, the vast majority of story?

 

[Noisepurge]

nope mother base was always going to be just a place to be invaded and defend from

What I thought I thought you would be able to do was design your base, but you cant do that

however Mother Base never gets invaded or defended FOB's do. And i would have loved to place my stationary weapons and assign guard posts or something to give it a personal touch. Now it's just a menu option to enable cameras and mines.

 

[Tribes of Trusty]

Game finished. I feel...pretty mixed. On to the spoiler thread.

 

[nature boy]

Try calling your horse or d-walker up there, or get wormhole.
Its probably just easier to develop the c fulton

Yeah that's I thought, really forcing people to develop it for such a limited use.

I really wish I could bully

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Eli

.

And I agree that mission

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30 sequence

was cringe worthy.

 

[Noisepurge]

So i just got to chapter 2...

Spoiler

was that like.....it? I know there is a true ending but does any story really happen outside of doing whatever it takes to get that ending? Or was that, for the most part, the vast majority of story?

Chapter 2 has

Spoiler

like four important missions still.

Keep at it, doesn't take that long to clear them. If you don't get a new story mission, do a couple sideops you haven't completed yet.

 

[TheSeks]

Oh my god, Mission 30, that long cut.

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That excessively long Skull Face monologue combined with Sins of the Father awkwardly creeping in, its climatic highs accompanied with no equal visual stimulus, as Snake and Skull Face sit just oddly staring at each other, is hilariously atrocious. I've thoroughly enjoyed all the cutscenes so far, the cinematography and editing is usually very good (Metal Gear narrative itself aside). But holy shit. Holy. Shit. There is no way that was intentional, surely. It's so, so fucking bad and amateurish.

Yeah, I figured you could do something during that. But nope, not even get into

Spoiler

a fist fight a la LIQUIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD./"SKULLFACE! SNAKE! IT'S NOT OVER YET! *guards all surrounding them ready to shoot Big Boss when he's the winner or something*"

 

[The Jackdog]

Chapter 2 has

Spoiler

like four important missions still.

Keep at it, doesn't take that long to clear them. If you don't get a new story mission, do a couple sideops you haven't completed yet.

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that seems like so little! i mean obviously i havent finished it but as of right now, skull face is the most boring villian of all mgs time and this is the most lame story. hope something cool happens to change my mind

 

[SomTervo]

Yeah, I figured you could do something during that. But nope, not even get into

Spoiler

Spoiler

a fist fight a la LIQUIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD./"SKULLFACE! SNAKE! IT'S NOT OVER YET! *guards all surrounding them ready to shoot Big Boss when he's the winner or something*"

Spoiler

Your spoiler broke

 

[The Jackdog]

Oh my god, Mission 30, that long cut.

Spoiler

That excessively long Skull Face monologue combined with Sins of the Father awkwardly creeping in, its climatic highs accompanied with no equal visual stimulus, as Snake and Skull Face sit just oddly staring at each other, is hilariously atrocious. I've thoroughly enjoyed all the cutscenes so far, the cinematography and editing is usually very good (Metal Gear narrative itself aside). But holy shit. Holy. Shit. There is no way that was intentional, surely. It's so, so fucking bad and amateurish.

RIGHT?!?!?

Spoiler

i was like opening my idroid and stuff. it was so bad. they just look at eachother. even worse, snake has an idle animation active. he was like constantly looking away from skull face and looking around like he was bored.

 

[Fardeen]

at present the second chapter has more cutscenes than the first, after every side mission go to the motherbase, sometimes it triggers cutscenes

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

How can I recruit Quiet? All she does is

Spoiler

laying in her cell

. There was a cutscene

Spoiler

with the helicopter

and that's all that happened. Is it a matter of time?

It'll happen after a few story missions.

 

[KevinG]

Made it to mission 16 last night. Should I grind to upgrade the fulton device, or just try to figure this out on my own?

 

[Griss]

Yep that was pretty bad. I was genuinely unsure if something hadn't triggered correctly. And the longer it went on the more unsure I became.

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My favorite part is that Snake is on his basic idle animation where he looks left then looks right every minute or so. So I ended up positioning the camera just right so that whenever he looked right it looked like he was looking right into the camera thinking "what the fuck is happening." I love that Skull Face spews exposition about this master plan of his for probably 5 minutes straight and Snake just sits there like a statue and doesn't even react. It was such a bizarre scene.

I did the exact same thing and screenshotted it every time, laughing my ass off. It was the moment where I wrote off the story entirely.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Made it to mission 16 last night. Should I grind to upgrade the fulton device, or just try to figure this out on my own?

I would recommend to grind for it. Especially for mission 16.

 

[The Elite]

Oh my god, Mission 30, that long cut.

Spoiler

That excessively long Skull Face monologue combined with Sins of the Father awkwardly creeping in, its climatic highs accompanied with no equal visual stimulus, as Snake and Skull Face sit just oddly staring at each other, is hilariously atrocious. I've thoroughly enjoyed all the cutscenes so far, the cinematography and editing is usually very good (Metal Gear narrative itself aside). But holy shit. Holy. Shit. There is no way that was intentional, surely. It's so, so fucking bad and amateurish.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1108562

 

[Woffls]

Yeah I did that but then

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QUIET DIED

I HATE THIS SO MUCH. I AM NOT HAVING FUN

It's a real shitty mission, that's for sure. How about

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electronic mines and C4 where the nearby ones are expected to go? The electronic mines are amazingly useful

Failing that, the mission is, according to the task list, designed that it's actually possible to

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Fulton the shit out of everything

so it might be worth working on that method.

But really I'd just not bother with the mission due to the reason I mentioned earlier

 

[Pooya]

that scene is so unfinished...

 

[The Jackdog]

Yep that was pretty bad. I was genuinely unsure if something hadn't triggered correctly. And the longer it went on the more unsure I became.

Spoiler

My favorite part is that Snake is on his basic idle animation where he looks left then looks right every minute or so. So I ended up positioning the camera just right so that whenever he looked right it looked like he was looking right into the camera thinking "what the fuck is happening." I love that Skull Face spews exposition about this master plan of his for probably 5 minutes straight and Snake just sits there like a statue and doesn't even react. It was such a bizarre scene.

its honestly the scene that made the story disappointment settle in DEEP.

its a great little sandbox to run around in, but man did they drop the ball on plot.

 

[KevinG]

I would recommend to grind for it. Especially for mission 16.

It helps that I'm having a lot of fun with the Side Ops, so it won't really feel like a grind. I think I need some kind of specialist for the upgradef fulton. Where would I find this guy? Like, easiest mission to run in and extract?

 

[Snkfanatic]

How many Side Op missions are there? Really enjoy them. Wish you could replay them but it doesn't seem like you can.

 

[Lollipop Dave]

How many Side Op missions are there? Really enjoy them. Wish you could replay them but it doesn't seem like you can.

There's a counter on the bottom right of the Side Op screen, it's 157 iirc.

 

[Snkfanatic]

There's a counter on the bottom right of the Side Op screen, it's 157 iirc.

Holy crap lol. Well that's good news :3

 

[mf.luder]

Traversal isn't the problem, the problem is D-horse being a buddy, that was the biggest mistake Kojima has made in this game.

The horse should be available at all times.

Horse is just a supply drop away, so it is available all the time. You just need to pay for it.

I agree that the travel system needs a little rethinking. I loved RDR's campfire anywhere as long as it was away from enemies and stuff.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Mother base spoiler

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what platform is the zoo at? Wish mother base had some icons for the smaller stuff