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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT2| A Franchise Robbed Of Its Future

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Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
EatChildren said:
M30 cont. spoilers: Like I'm cool with the idea of it,
the long car ride surrounded by Skull Face's army as he reveals his side of things. It looked fine. I'm also cool with the game having its own MGS3 ladder in this form. But yeah, I mean, this could be my least favourite cut of any cinematic sequence in the series. I can't find any salvaging. Awful one sided monologue with a senselessly silent Venom. Underwhelming use of Sins of the Father. Stilted animations. Awkward silence. Like therealminime it was almost like it was bugged out. Just awful to the point of hilarity. I mean, if you liked it you liked it, but fuck me man. For a series that usually consistently high quality in cinematography and framing, and integrating of music, even with its excessive monologues and questionable writing/performances. There's really nothing as oddly stilted and missing the mark as this in any of the games. Sins of the Father slowly creeping in, no impact of monologue or visuals, awkward stare. I'm chuckling as I type this. That has to have been rushed, given the work put into the cinematics before and after.
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Yah, that was the only cutscene i didnt enjoy. Though the first part and the general idea is awesome as hell.

Freedom = $1.05 said:
Mother base spoiler
what platform is the zoo at? Wish mother base had some icons for the smaller stuff
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You access the
Zoo from the Map on your iDroid,
press Triangle (On Based PS4 at least) to visit it
 
The Elite

The Elite

BOSS
therealminime said:
Yep that was pretty bad. I was genuinely unsure if something hadn't triggered correctly. And the longer it went on the more unsure I became.
My favorite part is that Snake is on his basic idle animation where he looks left then looks right every minute or so. So I ended up positioning the camera just right so that whenever he looked right it looked like he was looking right into the camera thinking "what the fuck is happening." I love that Skull Face spews exposition about this master plan of his for probably 5 minutes straight and Snake just sits there like a statue and doesn't even react. It was such a bizarre scene.
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How are voice actors paid?

By the line?

I would have shifted some of Kiefer's content from audio tapes to this scene. Great game but this whole scene stood out.
 
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lazybones18

Banned
Maxed out the Command Platform and I already got soldiers saying that I need to expand lol. Dammit men, don't you know how much a pain in the ass it is to get the necessary resource materials? Speaking of which, now that I maxed out the Command Platform, any reason to hold on the Minor Metal materials I have left other than for development purposes?

Finally traveled to Africa and completed Mission 13. Glad I had a rocket with me. And I got access to D-Walker. Time to wreck shit up in style.
 
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therealminime

Member
There's a faint little bird/animal sound effect in the distance in Afghanistan that sounds exactly like one of the windows phone text message sounds and it triggers me every time I hear it in game.
 
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Hasney

Member
Snkfanatic said:
How many Side Op missions are there? Really enjoy them. Wish you could replay them but it doesn't seem like you can.
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You can replay them. When they're in white again, you can jump in and do them.

lazybones18 said:
Maxed out the Command Platform and I already got soldiers saying that I need to expand lol. Dammit men, don't you know how much a pain in the ass it is to get the necessary resource materials? Speaking of which, now that I maxed out the Command Platform, any reason to hold on the Minor Metal materials I have left other than for development purposes?
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I need to find this waiting room with 500 guys in at some point...

Minor metal can be used for deployment as well as development for some items, not much though and I can't remember off the top of my head what is causing me to deploy with some minor metal.
 
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The Jackdog

Member
DoctorWho said:
How are voice actors paid?

By the line?

I would have shifted some of Kiefer's content from audio tapes to this scene. Great game but this whole scene stood out.
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theres times when keifer's dialogue sounds like a choice to be so little, and other times where its positively jarring he doesn't say anything.

i think his delivery and acting is completely find to good. i really can't tell if its a result of wanting a more silent protagonist, making the player feel more like big boss themselves, or a result of kiefer being expensive, or just not enough time to animate everything properly. i really cant tell.

every single story decision in this game is just bizarre. its just...not finished.
 
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jackissocool

Member
EatChildren said:
Oh my god, Mission 30, that long cut.
That excessively long Skull Face monologue combined with Sins of the Father awkwardly creeping in, its climatic highs accompanied with no equal visual stimulus, as Snake and Skull Face sit just oddly staring at each other, is hilariously atrocious. I've thoroughly enjoyed all the cutscenes so far, the cinematography and editing is usually very good (Metal Gear narrative itself aside). But holy shit. Holy. Shit. There is no way that was intentional, surely. It's so, so fucking bad and amateurish.
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Yeah it was real terrible.
I haven't been to bothered by Silent Snake so far but that was atrocious. That scene reeked of cut/unfinished content.
 
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MrFrankFontaine

Banned
KevinG said:
It helps that I'm having a lot of fun with the Side Ops, so it won't really feel like a grind. I think I need some kind of specialist for the upgradef fulton. Where would I find this guy? Like, easiest mission to run in and extract?
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Would like to know where to find the transportation specialist as well...
 
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Sumio Mondo

Member
The Jackdog said:
theres times when keifer's dialogue sounds like a choice to be so little, and other times where its positively jarring he doesn't say anything.

i think his delivery and acting is completely find to good. i really can't tell if its a result of wanting a more silent protagonist, making the player feel more like big boss themselves, or a result of kiefer being expensive, or just not enough time to animate everything properly. i really cant tell.

every single story decision in this game is just bizarre. its just...not finished.
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If it was by the line, they should have allocated his speaking to the cutscenes rather than the tapes, which a lot of people are going to miss anyway. As it is, there are cutscenes where it is really awkward and jarring. Especially like when Miller and Big Boss meet up again after 9 years at the start...I mean, come on.
 
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LeonSPBR

Member
MrFrankFontaine said:
Would like to know where to find the transportation specialist as well...
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Looks in the missions, they show before you choose them the specialist that you can fulton. One of the mission has a specialist to fulton and they are prisoners that you need to find, so search for them.
 
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Kamina777

Banned
mf.luder said:
Horse is just a supply drop away, so it is available all the time. You just need to pay for it.

I agree that the travel system needs a little rethinking. I loved RDR's campfire anywhere as long as it was away from enemies and stuff.
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Agreed, you're kinda being forced to prioritize when it comes to drops, plus being on a horse while Quiet and DD try to catch up sounds kinda silly.
 
Clear

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
EatChildren said:
M30 cont. spoilers: Like I'm cool with the idea of it...
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I thought it fell a little flat but I really didn't have a problem with it either.
Regarding the "stilted" animations can't say I really noticed, but considering my BB is almost entirely covered by the parasite suit he has as much expressiveness as Master Chief anyway!
I assume time of day is also dynamic? Maybe I got a better deal as day faded into night over the course of the journey, which I thought was kinda fitting too.
 
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Mupod

Member
At some point Big Boss started running like the goddamn Flash, I'm assuming it was an arm mobility upgrade I wasn't paying attention to. But he's almost as fast as Ground Zeroes Raiden and can run down trucks now. I still use D-Horse once in a while but running 4-500m isn't as painful anymore.

Also, for those of you having trouble with 29:

Make an LMG. The one I used (has '7.62 conversion' listed under the stats) can kill one without having to even reload. Also, don't be an idiot like me and try to deplete their stamina for extraction...you don't have to.
 
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Alo0oy

Banned
So I heard that there's a missable cutscene with
Emmerich
, any spoiler-free tips in order to make sure I don't miss it?

I already missed the cutscene with
Paz
, I don't want that to happen again.
 
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wild wild rice

Member
Gotta ask some mild spoiler questions to help me be prepared for how much more of my life this is going to consume.

How many missions are there?

How long is Chapter 2?
 
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The Jackdog

Member
Sumio Mondo said:
If it was by the line, they should have allocated his speaking to the cutscenes rather than the tapes, which a lot of people are going to miss anyway. As it is, there are cutscenes where it is really awkward and jarring. Especially like when Miller and Big Boss meet up again after 9 years at the start...I mean, come on.
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in my experience the actor is given a script and then a price is decided. ive never worked with an actor who said "WHOA wait if i read this line is 50 extra bucks".

thats why i keep leaning towards it being a deliberate choice or unfinished/cutting room floor dialogue is somewhere.

but its bizarre.
 
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The Jackdog

Member
mission 29 killer advice:

sprint left at the beginning of the fight, leave code talker chillin. run allllll the way left to the gap in the concrete fence. youll get warnings while youre on the other side that youre gonna leave the mission and gotta go back for code talker. dont worry, hes fine, youre fine. keep popping out from the sides of the gap in the fence and fire rockets. the skulls NEVER come on the other side of the fence, so theyll never surround you, youll have cover, and can blast away. if you have quiet, she'll fire on em too.

also, had a REALLY bizarre thing happen during mission 30....
http://xboxclips.com/cmglassmire/7c7e41c3-5c8a-4322-b420-7dc57cb7331a

that happen to anyone else? i couldnt stop laughing
 
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hank_tree

Member
Zambatoh said:
I tried putting on the chicken hat, but it doesn't work. Enemies are still shooting at me and the tanks are still gunning for me.
Not to mention they are able to see me through the sand storm which is just plain unfair.
This mission is just plain broken and I am forever stuck on this mission.
Whoever thought it was a good idea to make this mission impossible to abort should have their legs shot off.
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There are two chicken hats. You need the second one - Little chicken hat.
 
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KevinG

Member
MrFrankFontaine said:
Would like to know where to find the transportation specialist as well...
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lazybones18 said:
There should be one in Mission 8.
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LeonSPBR said:
Looks in the missions, they show before you choose them the specialist that you can fulton. One of the mission has a specialist to fulton and they are prisoners that you need to find, so search for them.
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Thanks! Days like today when I'm alone at work and wish I had a Vita to remote play Side Ops, or side mission esque things.
 
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BluenoseGames

Member
Okay ... so I load up my game, go through the long as boot up stage with the agreements/notices everytime. When the game loads I go in and it locks me to the FOB screen so then I try to build one but my game ends up freezing.

This is on XB1 with 45 hours in.
 
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Kenzodielocke

Banned
Kiefer Sutherland be like:

jws31z5.jpg


when he see's what people are doing with his "Do it" order for D-Horse...
 
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CHC

Member
Ugh Jesus mission 18 (
the escort the child soldiers mission
) was terrible. The magic is definitely fading here, I've found the last few missions to be really obtuse and frustrating.
 
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TedMilk

Member
I did my weekly shop last night IRL and felt like I was stocking up my motherbase. I've started marking people from across the street as well. This game.
 
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The Jackdog

Member
BluenoseGames said:
Okay ... so I load up my game, go through the long as boot up stage with the agreements/notices everytime. When the game loads I go in and it locks me to the FOB screen so then I try to build one but my game ends up freezing.

This is on XB1 with 45 hours in.
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arent servers for x1 still on fire?

might be part of the problem? maybe?
 
N° 2048

N° 2048

Member
Guys...omg....after being MIA from Metal Gear for YEARS. This is it. This is what Metal Gear is. Holy crap.

I don't know how to put it in words. This game just set the open world stealth genre at an insanely high standard.

I'm only on like Mission 4 too. Absolutely amazing.


I can't even.
 
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Freedom = $1.05

Banned
Question regarding outposts: I feel like I'm clearing many of them, the game notifies me that I've cleared them, yet a mission or two later they'll be back to being full of enemies. Does that all clear status only last during the instance that cleared it in?
 
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Forkball

Member
So can I not buy a FOB? I went through the tutorial but it froze. I restarted the game and disconnected the game, and it didn't force me through the tutorial again even though I can still buy waters.
 
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Shari

Member
Freedom = $1.05 said:
Mother base spoiler
what platform is the zoo at? Wish mother base had some icons for the smaller stuff
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It's not unlocked from the beggining, there's some requirements (unknown to me) in order to make it show up in the map.

When you have it, you'll certainly see it. Hard to miss.
 
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ponpo

( ≖‿≖)
Freedom = $1.05 said:
Question regarding outposts: I feel like I'm clearing many of them, the game notifies me that I've cleared them, yet a mission or two later they'll be back to being full of enemies. Does that all clear status only last during the instance that cleared it in?
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Yep.

But unlocks k00l emblem keywords.
 
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Jintor

Member
Episode 45 is pretty crazy but i hate any mission that forces you to equip a weapon and then just throws you into a fight. Horrible.

Also supply drops overload previous supply drops, which makes sense so I can't just build a stockpile but ducking automatic apply drops override your manual supply drops so I'll be running full sprint towards my cache and it'll disappear before my eyes because Miller is "helping"

Auto supply drops are in terrible positions always and they wreck my gmp
 
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SomTervo

Member
Cyborg said:
Guys, how do I get a sniper with supres. and trenq? Is the only way to develop it (3rd or 4th sniper)?
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I think I got it a bit earlier than the full development tree, but it's a mild spoiler. Side ops and progression spoilers ahead.

Once you make it
to Africa, I think, about mission 14-15

You can unlock the
Legendary Gunsmith Side Ops

Do three of these and you can
customise weapons with compatible parts. I did this to my tranq sniper and gave it a suppressor. Game-changer. A fair bit earlier than the actual full suppressed tranquiliser rifle, too.
 
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Dimmle

Member
Question regarding a character on Mother Base (
Paz
):

They seem to be unavailable now? I've done three Wandering Mother Base Soldier missions and was only able to visit them after the first one. Their door has remained locked since that visit. Did I get the wrong impression that I would be visiting them
with a photo after each Wandering Soldier mission
?
 
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