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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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feynoob
Banned
This is not his product mate.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
This must be more of the infamous Xbox Civil War. Imagine being such a fanatic shill you make Gaz look rational by comparison.
He took the blame for it on X-Cast. His division pushed to buy the company. It's kind of his product.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Gaz said he is a lawyer in the thick of all that (and actually sounded like he knew what he was talking about) - so what the fuck is he doing dick riding Xbox instead of actually working and earning a wage?
Dick Jones
Banned
I refuse to believe the studio that made something as awesome as Prey, also made this. I'm waiting for someone to reveal this is an elaborate hoax.
93xfan
Banned
So no counter argument?
And you don’t mind the incompetence by the CMA? I’ll bet if this was a few months ago and the CMA was using this misrepresentation of data to determine if cloud or console competition was the biggest concern, you’d be a lot more vocal.
Maybe you’ll have an argument for the next one, but I’d imagine it’d just be another “this is the best you can come up with.”
feynoob
Banned
He is doing parody videos by acting like dumb internet guy.
He is the guy who makes money from certain people, like how girls sell feet pictures to those people.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Gaz is a lawyer? This is news to me, have never heard them say that and they don't give off the presence they are a lawyer. Maybe he is a Twitter lawyer like Post Up?
Banjo64
cumsessed
That might be true, but he must worry about his rep surely? Would you want the same guy who sang ‘PHILLLL SPEEEENCAAAAAAAA’ representing you?
Banjo64
cumsessed
News to me too
Man just turned it on to make floflo look even dumber.
feynoob
Banned
If it puts bread in the house why not.That might be true, but he must worry about his rep surely? Would you want the same guy who sang ‘PHILLLL SPEEEENCAAAAAAAA’ representing you?
Even though some of his stuff is annoying , there are few skits that are funny as hell.
devilNprada
Member
Correction: He took the blame without actually taking the blame!
"We didn't do a good job early on of engaging with Arkane Austin to really help them understand what it meant to be part of Xbox. We left them to work on the game--they're a very talented team and I love that team--I still do."
Spencer explained that Microsoft should have stepped in to help Arkane much earlier on. "We should have been there for the team earlier. That's on us. We were too late to help. I take that as a learning. As painful as it is."
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PaintTinJr
Member
Yeah that's what I thought too.
Maybe the reason Microsoft have lost the plot since the CMA decision is that it even stops them extending with ATVI, which they maybe thought they were doing for more favourable remedies with the deal passing.
If the deal fails in July, it is hard to see how the FTC case wouldn't be a slam dunk when the FTC can say the deal is factually denied - and for 10years - for an SLC in the UK, which is a similar market setup for Microsoft and Xbox, gamepass/Azure/xcloud as the US,
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feynoob
Banned
Arkane belongs to his company, so he has to take responsibility for their mess.
But the game happened before they acquired them. So this mess is not his fault, as he did everything he can for them to fix it (delayed for 1 year).
This is all on Bethesda who forced them to do MP game, instead of actually doing what they are good at.
Banjo64
cumsessed
I enjoyed his Redfall review.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
GHG
Gold Member
Is Gaz not that fanatic that screamed Phil Spencer's name in song?
They are infighting it seems. Endgame stuff.
DeepEnigma
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Topher
Identifies as young
The fact that it is irrelevant is the counter argument. I haven't even looked into whether this claim is accurate since it doesn't even matter.
Actually a few months ago CMA had to correct their calculations on console competition and I didn't say much about that either. Edit: Actually, I did. When they threw the console side of this out based on this mistake, I wrongly predicted the deal would fly through at that point and congratulated those who wanted it to happen.
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devilNprada
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
But that's the thing, ABK's management is shot, MS was the one making all these consumer-friendly deals.
Will Bobby see the light? Who knows. But we all would certainly love to see him get the boot.
The thing about all these 10 year deals is that CMA flatly says in their ruling that Microsoft is only doing this shit to get regulatory approval. Previously Microsoft yanked games off of Geforce Now after they bought Bethesda, but then suddenly Nvidia is getting a 10 year deal.
Microsoft also let Bethesda's games on Amazon's Luna and PS Plus post acquisition.
If someone's gonna say "but that was likely because of pre-existing contracts", we should apply that to any contracts with Geforce Now as well.
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feynoob
Banned
The game happened before the deal.
GHG
Gold Member
They will go to Nintendo it seems if shit really hits the fan for Xbox as far as their consoles are concerned:
Considering how much I'm enjoying TOTK I'd rather they take their low standards non gamer asses over to Apple Arcade. Go ruin whatever the fuck that is for all I care.
Considering how much I'm enjoying TOTK I'd rather they take their low standards non gamer asses over to Apple Arcade. Go ruin whatever the fuck that is for all I care.
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feynoob
Banned
His Twitter engagement is crazy.
Maybe I need to cut down couple points of him.
Reading few of these gave me diarrhea.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I have a serious question, do some of y'all like keep a google doc with all the names and what they have done over the years? No seriously, every time someone from twitter comes up, either you, or deep or someone else immediately has a rap sheet ready for what they once said year(s) back
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DeepEnigma
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Topher
Identifies as young
Microsoft also let Bethesda's games on Amazon's Luna and PS Plus post acquisition.
If someone's gonna say "but that was likely because of pre-existing contracts", we should apply that to any contracts with Geforce Now as well.
No, we shouldn't because Microsoft could have offered Nvidia a contract instead of yanking the games and did not. If Amazon didn't have a contract same shit would have happened. CMA is right. Microsoft is doing this only to impress regulators. When 10 years are up.....
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
No, we shouldn't because Microsoft could have offered Nvidia a contract instead of yanking the games and did not. If Amazon didn't have a contract same shit would have happened. CMA is right. Microsoft is doing this only to impress regulators. When 10 years are up.....
GHG
Gold Member
I have a serious question, do some of y'all like keep a google doc with all the names and what they have done over the years? No seriously, every time someone from twitter comes up, either you, or deep or someone else immediately has a rap sheet ready for what the once said year(s) back
Dude, if someone wants to make a song about Phil Spencer I'll remember them (this happened weeks ago BTW).
You, while not notable, I only remember because of your persistence.
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gothmog
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I mean the internet is largely indexed so it's not that hard.I have a serious question, do some of y'all like keep a google doc with all the names and what they have done over the years? No seriously, every time someone from twitter comes up, either you, or deep or someone else immediately has a rap sheet ready for what they once said year(s) back
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Holy crap. Man, what is it with lawyers turning out to be Xbox fanboys (or at least hardcore Xbox fans)? Wonder what it is about the brand that attracts them so strongly.
This would be true, if the studio head didn't reveal that Microsoft intervened and told them to cancel the PS5 version once MS finalized the acquisition.
I don't think forcing the team to suddenly change platform (and probably direction) midway through development is "fixing" the problem. If anything it might have created the problem.
Well, where is Bethesda/Zenimax getting their funding? Does Pete Hines not have to go through Phil Spencer for certain approvals? They fall under Microsoft Gaming now, which Phil Spencer runs.
RedFall's problems are almost 100% traceable back to lack of time and funding. You can see it almost everywhere in the game. Unfinished animations, unfinished textures, placeholder explosions, explosions that make literally no logical sense, horrid texture and shadow pop-in, certain houses having full interaction and most others not, placeholder and duplicated bullet hole effects, still comic panel cutscenes more at place in As Dusk Falls than a AAA FPS game, etc. The team's previous games, like Dishonored 2, never had these issues. Those all scream budget and resources (labor) limitations, those things would fall under Microsoft Gaming's wheelhouse.
Phil Spencer's wheelhouse.
Yeah, that sounds like it would be him. And personally I'm enjoying the infighting, lets us see the actual limits of some of these influencers and cappers.
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GHG
Gold Member
Those who get sent the odd gift and private discord invite vs those who are actually on the payroll.
feynoob
Banned
I posted that video on redfall thread.I have a serious question, do some of y'all like keep a google doc with all the names and what they have done over the years? No seriously, every time someone from twitter comes up, either you, or deep or someone else immediately has a rap sheet ready for what the once said year(s) back
Couldn't find the correct one, but found this.
His redfall on the other hand
He is weird one.
GHG
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Topher
Identifies as young
I looked him up a few years ago for something I can't remember. Found him on his employer website. Said he is a "solicitor". What is that in the UK?
devilNprada
Member
Thank you
Redfall was announced during the Xbox and Bethesda E3 2021 showcase on June 13, 2021.[6][7] The game was developed by Arkane Studios at their Austin, Texas locations,[1][5][8] with Roundhouse Studios providing additional assistance and support.[9] Co-Creative Director Ricardo Bare stated that the game will continue Arkane's tradition of making each game different from the last, but will still focus on deep worldbuilding and inventive game mechanics.[4] On May 12, 2022, it was announced that the release was delayed to the first half of 2023.[10] Redfall released on May 2, 2023.[11] The PlayStation 5 version was cancelled after Microsoft acquired Bethesda Softworks.[12]
DeepEnigma
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feynoob
Banned
Cancelling a platform doesn't create that atrocious game. All it does is lessen the burden for the team.
The game was fucked up from the base. And let's not forget that the release date was 2022 before the delay, one year after the deal was closed.
It was before the acquisition. They cancelled dishonored 3 to make deathloop.
https://www.videogameschronicle.com...tainty-over-dishonored-3-says-arkane-founder/
you can blame all you want to, but all this shit happened during zenimax struggle for cash. It's why you see deathloop, fallout76, and redfall. They wanted quick cash games.
redfall literally had mtx elements, before they removed those stuff from the game.
https://wccftech.com/redfall-screen...k1McnJlcDlZZW9Id1c5cldOX3lUeTBIYlhwTTB2aC1qQQ..
Astray
Member
Ironically enough, Apple is probably one of the few companies that have most of the key things that make for a great console/gaming ecosystem contender. unlike Microsoft, they not only have taste, but they have vast experience in making strong hardware at a profit and excellence in supply chains. They can probably support a cloud-approach too if needed.
Ogbert
Member
A lawyer.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The games were taken off of Gefore before the deal closed, so it was a Zenimax decision. Zenimax games are also coming on PS Now 3 years after the acquisition so we can assume its either some long-standing Zenimax clauses or MS are just being very generous letting their first party games come on PS Now years after the acquisition. Pick your poison.
feynoob
Banned
And?
Do you think game development are too fast?
The original release date was 2022, 2 years after MS announced acquisition of Bethesda. By that time, the game was in development.
Bernoulli
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
But it was supposed to be,
They couldn't even hit 60fps with all that focus.
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GHG
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feynoob
Banned
I disagree with this 100%.
MS maybe shit, but they are 100% better than apple, who only cares about aesthetics.
They are backwards ducks who make the experience miserable as hell. They also charge way too much for outdated products and act like it's new shit. Their fans eat that shit way too much.
MS maybe shit as fuck, but at least they bear the cost, which gives us cheaper option.
Fuck both companies.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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