Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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GHG
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And making sure things stay way is good for competition because?
jm89
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Imo sarah did worse then booty.
She basically got exposed for saying they didn't plan for a seperate xcloud product and but actually did in sept 2022.
Can't argue cloud is just part of the console market when your lying ass was planning on a seperate product for just cloud, and conveiently dropped it as regulators started knocking on your door soon after.
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BosmerCulter
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Can anyone confirm that this really happened because Holy Shit.
DeepEnigma
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What were the remedies? I ask this the second time since the only regulator that failed to disclose their full report, was the EC. So, people are repeating this. What are the remedies?
Shanomatic
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That was a pretty poor showing by the FTC in my opinion. Their lawyers are just having trouble creating a clear thread line or narrative to their case. They keep jumping around and fishing for gotchas without any thought as to how to build on what they actually get. This was particularly clear with Bond.
Also lol at going on break and the FTC immediately passing the witness. That is not something you do when things are going well, they very clearly had some discussions during that 15 minutes and decided it'd be better to just drop it.
Even when the FTC gets something that looks like it might help them, on cross Microsoft's lawyers do a pretty impressive job of targeting and dismantling them. This was especially clear with Hines' testimony.
FTC was really trying to hammer in on the Cataclysm clause making the signed agreements unreliable. I don't think the judge is going to take too kindly to this line of thinking, considering that would render most contracts in the US unreliable.
But I mean, this was to be expected right? Pretty much ever public comment on this case from people much more educated than anyone here basically said that the FTC was gonna struggle here, and considering they asked a 2 day hearing, have to cope with 5, and bowed out early here, I'm having a hard time believing it's going to get any better, but we'll see.
Also lol at going on break and the FTC immediately passing the witness. That is not something you do when things are going well, they very clearly had some discussions during that 15 minutes and decided it'd be better to just drop it.
Even when the FTC gets something that looks like it might help them, on cross Microsoft's lawyers do a pretty impressive job of targeting and dismantling them. This was especially clear with Hines' testimony.
FTC was really trying to hammer in on the Cataclysm clause making the signed agreements unreliable. I don't think the judge is going to take too kindly to this line of thinking, considering that would render most contracts in the US unreliable.
But I mean, this was to be expected right? Pretty much ever public comment on this case from people much more educated than anyone here basically said that the FTC was gonna struggle here, and considering they asked a 2 day hearing, have to cope with 5, and bowed out early here, I'm having a hard time believing it's going to get any better, but we'll see.
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NickFire
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Boom!!!!!
Drell
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Not sure what you want but I won't go for this on this evening. Your argument will be that Sony is evil because they made deals and so on...
Isn't there enough info to not believe anyone and form your own opinion?I don't know who the believe.
Era: "Well that was a disaster for the FTC."
GAF: "Well that was a disaster for Microsoft."
Which company was exposed doing anticompetitive practices, with mails talking internally about killing the competition, paying to change already made contracts to foreclose contents to competition, contradicting themselves over the importance of COD that is both not critical content and at the same time worth of allowing Kotick to dictate a 80:20 revenues split, making 10 years contracts where they can do whatever they want at any time?
Is this what Microsoft wanted to be exposed today?
Banjo64
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Really mate? I thought she was dog shit.
Answering 'I guess' during a cross examination, being referred to her own prior testimony 3 times because she gave a conflicting answer. Just poor.
Topher
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No, that is not what happened. The lawyer asked this. They have to have it on the record exactly who they are talking about. What if Satya Nadella's name was John Smith?
tmlDan
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Not what happened.
But it's common in court, so that they have it on record who they're referring to
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I already answered your question.
It's not that hard to read.
Mergers: Commission clears acquisition of Activision Blizzard by Microsoft, subject to conditions
The European Commission has approved, under the EU Merger Regulation, the proposed acquisition of Activision Blizzard (‘Activision') by Microsoft.
GHG
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They are not there to "build" anything yet. That comes later.
Jesus christ so many first timers. Welcome to a court of law.
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Banjo64
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64 messages since 2020.
Barakov
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Topher
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Yeah, but she is not under trial. Having to be reminded of something you said months ago is probably pretty common. In any case, after referring to her previous testimony, I felt she rebounded well. I don't think the FTC got any major gotchas out of Bond today.
Unless I missed it.
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Dial back this childish rhetoric or you'll be removed.
Sony is the saviour of gaming. That's what gaf believes so I'll go with that.
BosmerCulter
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Ok, i know fucking nothing about court and everything around it.
Thanks for the clarification !
GHG
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Shanomatic
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W
What exactly are you trying to imply with this?
DeepEnigma
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Yes. We know Activision is evil. Both can be right at the same time. They're not your friends.Evil Microsoft..
Also shows you how powerful of a brand CoD is, even bigger than Xbox. Something MS was being dishonest with when saying "Sony can build their own, totes no biggie, tee hee."
The thread line is evident. They wanted to paint the picture of a company that has lied a lot and has used past acquisitions in anticompetitive ways.
They reached that goal.
The fun will be when they start leveraging what the CMA has done, when they'll ask them what they plan to do if the injunction in not granted, what is their comment on the reports about them trying to bypass regulators who have blocked the deal.
Topher
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I already answered your question.
It's not that hard to read.
Mergers: Commission clears acquisition of Activision Blizzard by Microsoft, subject to conditions
The European Commission has approved, under the EU Merger Regulation, the proposed acquisition of Activision Blizzard (‘Activision') by Microsoft.ec.europa.eu
Yeah.....you've got two bullets there that basically go back to what I've been saying. Microsoft has to honor their agreements to other cloud streaming providers. Those agreements have clauses that allow Microsoft to back out.
Banjo64
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I'm just highlighting for every body that you've made 64 contributions to this forum in the past 3 years, and that you're not posting in good faith
GHG
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Drell
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Nice, now go say that to twitter if you want to go 1 v 100.
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Nope.
Microsoft has to offer CoD on other cloud services. They can't simply say no the agreement isn't valid anymore.
DeepEnigma
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These simps are painfully transparent. They should all #SlayQueen #GoSista #StrongIndependentBlackWoman #WhoRulesTheWorld #Girls #BelieveAllWomen
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Topher
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Microsoft is going to win against the FTC. That means every day they have to testify and reveal shit they don't want to reveal is automatically a loss for Microsoft.
Nydius
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Looks like we've got another Florian alt, boys!
Microsoft got their shit punched in today. Booty and Hines got wrecked on examination, every single one of Microsoft's public statements were exposed as lies by their internal emails and testimony by both Hines and Bond.
Anyone trying to spin this as a win for Microsoft lives in an alternate reality or is a paid shill. They absolutely got exposed on EVERY account as being anti-competitive with only one goal in mind: Shutting out everyone else.
GHG
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Kittehkraken
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The FTC losing doesn't change the fact that Microsoft got exposed for spreading lies and misinformation about absolutely everything.
Shanomatic
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I didn't realize you were the authority on what is good faith here.I'm just highlighting for every body that you've made 64 contributions to this forum in the past 3 years, and that you're not posting in good faith
You don't have to agree with me but at least engage with what I said instead of adhoming with 0 basis.
Banjo64
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Well, now you know.
Nothing1234
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Take Two are about to offer Xbox a 95-5 split for GTA 6.
azertydu91
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Shanomatic
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Well, Activision's share price certainly doesn't reflect that.
Besides that, making exclusive content isn't anticompetitive, that's not the standard trying to be reached here.
Banjo64
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tmlDan
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You can't say that for certain at all.
It's just day one, nobody is winning.
The FTC's goal today was to show how untrustworthy MS is and they showed that but MS didn't reveal anything anti-competitive that would force the deal to get blocked
GHG
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So he's ignoring everything else that happened today and is zoning in on Jimbo's internal email addressed to employees?
Just when you think he's peaked, he goes and outdoes himself.
Topher
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