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Microsoft has more best-sellers on PlayStation Store than Sony does
mayham2199
Member
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Let's see the critical/commercial success of Hellblade 2 first.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Let me help you out.
Xbox Fans:
2013 - 2015 - PS5 has no games. It's not an exclusive if the game is on PS3 and PC.
2016 - Xbox games coming to PC? It's still exclusive because PC is Microsoft's platform.
2017 - 2019 - Exclusives don't matter. The most popular games are multiplats. People buy consoles for Madden, FIFA, Call of Duty
2020 - 2023 - Microsoft is ready to compete against Sony. They now have games and exclusives. 2024 is going to be the year for Microsoft
2024 - Exclusives are a thing of the past. Look at Sony, they're releasing games on PC!
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Let me help you out too.
Sony Fans:
Forever until now: Exclusives matter...... "No need to buy Xbox if you can play on PC"
Recently: MLB The Show on Xbox and switch day one, almost all key IPs on PC, GAAS games day one on PC...... "Dead silence"
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
It looks like you didn't read 2013 - 2015 because that narrative didn't change.
Many of the exclusives PlayStation fans were bragging about were in fact "console exclusive." They were released on both PC and PS4.
Some of the titles:
Final Fantasy 14, Street Fighter V, No Man Sky, Ni no Kuni II, Guilty Gear Xrd, and King of Fighters 14
There's also a huge difference between releasing all of your games day one on PC versus just GaaS games or games 1-2 years down the line.
RyanEvans21
Member
Sony claims it was MLB’s decision to put its baseball game on Xbox Game Pass | VGC
The Show 21 will release on Xbox’s service this month, but PlayStation owners will need to buy it…
www.videogameschronicle.com
Bumblebeetuna
Member
I already know console warriors exist, don’t need any help there thanks. I do hope the platoon gives you lots of reactions though. Nothing you posted refutes what I said
Also, what PS3 games were on PC in 2013-2015? Refresh my memory, genuinely don’t remember any.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
No, you clearly did because there's a reason why PS fans were laughing at Xbox losing their exclusives.I already know console warriors exist, don’t need any help there thanks. I do hope the platoon gives you lots of reactions though. Nothing you posted refutes what I said
Hint: Because they were laughing at PS fans first.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Its a win/win for everyone imo
Oppoi
Member
You dance like a trained monkey begging for treats and you love it.I already know console warriors exist, don’t need any help there thanks. I do hope the platoon gives you lots of reactions though. Nothing you posted refutes what I said
Also, what PS3 games were on PC in 2013-2015? Refresh my memory, genuinely don’t remember any.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Totally. But I'd say win/win for 99% of gamers. There's going to be that 1% who hates the fact MS gets 70% of it. MLB The Show has been on Xbox for 4 years in a row. Who cares if Sony gets 70%.
Oppoi
Member
Only one publisher is a win/win for everyone.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
ChorizoPicozo
Member
sony?
Oppoi
Member
I'm sorry I didn't mean to call you out. It's just that I see the way things are going and if anyone thinks these news ought to be celebrated they need to think of the bigger picture.
Were so close to a reality where -we- celebrate failures.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
R6Rider
Gold Member
DavidGzz
Gold Member
This thread reminds of of Rich Piana saying, "It doesn't matter how I got my 20" arms, what matters is I got em, and you don't." Granted, his haters are alive and he isn't, but still....
It's like when we buy stock. It may not be us increasing the stock, but you still say, "yay, me!"
And it's not like it's MS pointing this out, it's the news outlets.
It's like when we buy stock. It may not be us increasing the stock, but you still say, "yay, me!"
And it's not like it's MS pointing this out, it's the news outlets.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
That 1% maybe Xbox fans who don't want their games on PlayStation.
Oppoi
Member
I didn't mean it like that. Language difficulties, I wasn't speaking to/about you specifically.
midnightAI
Banned
MLB is on XBox due to licensing only which is very different to XBox putting games on PlayStation due to necessity (Likely MS has told XBox division enough is enough, they want to see a return on the investment, I don't think it's an XBox decision)
I'm not sure it's win/win for gamers 'if' it affects XBox hardware in the future (XBox going third party and scrapping everything else), hopefully it doesn't and MS allow XBox more time and don't just listen to shareholders who's only interest is money (let's face it, most are)
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Maybe. But either way, Who cares. Gamers get games on other platforms and the corporations can fight for the 70/30 split. They dont seem to mind doing it together, so even they agree on doing. As for MLB somehow forcing Sony to make Xbox baseball games, Sony can always just say no and ditch the game to spite them. In the link, which links to an Inverse article, Sony agree to do it in 2019, which lead to the first game being the 2021 game.
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DeltaPolarBear
Member
Only Xbox customers think they are cared for as "fans". Nintendo and PlayStation customers are fully aware they are consumers. That is why only the Xbox manager win awards and not the manager of the other two companies.
Of course, the Xbox fans also forgot that they are suppose to buy games.
reinking
Gold Member
Why buy games when you have access to "the best deal in gaming?"
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Call out the Sony fans once a single one of their AAA non-GAAS ever comes day and date to another platform and not 2-4 years later
mayham2199
Member
Maybe. We will have to see how it plays out. I don’t want Xbox to leave the hardware space and these sort of moves can lead to that.
Klayzer
Member
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
But why would Sony give up making a game that sells 3 to 5 million per year just because the league forces them to put it on xbox?
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Ah, the “they started it” logic. Cool, I guess. My point still stands.
Unknown Soldier
Member
They will never put Call of Duty on Gamepass because they aren't going to kill their $70 billion investment instantly
Or are they.....?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You tried using the logic in your response earlier now it's a problem. Classic.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
MLB games on PS only sell about 1M console copies per year going back about 20 years. PSP ports added about 200,000 more. It hit 2M in 2021 when the first Xbox port released.
Giving up MLB wouldnt move the needle for their gaming division, but they agreed to do Switch and Xbox games because making multiplat baseball games wont affect the PS brand. And getting extra sales and mtx from competing ports adds to the bottom line. The same theory applies to PC ports. As long as the PC sales dont negatively affect the brand, they'll keep doing it.
MLB: The Show - Wikipedia
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cash_longfellow
Member
Punctuation makes this hard, doesn’t it?
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
360 once were the best console and now they are a casual games third party
Klayzer
Member
Lol
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Well you’re 0-2 here. That’s not what my post said, and idc if you want to play childish console warz. Like I said, cool. You do you, friend.
midnightAI
Banned
As far as I'm aware, sales on XBox aren't counted as it's on gamepass, so those 2million sales are PS, PC and Switch. (It's around 4 million players isn't it according to wiki?)MLB games on PS only sell about 1M console copies per year going back about 20 years. PSP ports added about 200,000 more. It hit 2M in 2021 when the first Xbox port released.
Giving up MLB wouldnt move the needle for their gaming division, but they agreed to do Switch and Xbox games because making multiplat baseball games wont affect the PS brand. And getting extra sales and mtx from competing ports adds to the bottom line. The same theory applies to PC ports. As long as the PC sales dont negatively affect the brand, they'll keep doing it.
MLB: The Show - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
And 2 million per year ain't bad for a franchise that noone gives a shit about outside the US
Bumblebeetuna
Member
MLB games on PS only sell about 1M console copies per year going back about 20 years. PSP ports added about 200,000 more. It hit 2M in 2021 when the first Xbox port released.
Giving up MLB wouldnt move the needle for their gaming division, but they agreed to do Switch and Xbox games because making multiplat baseball games wont affect the PS brand. And getting extra sales and mtx from competing ports adds to the bottom line. The same theory applies to PC ports. As long as the PC sales dont negatively affect the brand, they'll keep doing it.
MLB: The Show - Wikipedia
But the last game with sales numbers in your link says 2 million, but one million. Sales are surely even higher now that they release it on two other consoles. But the main reason they are more than happy to put it on other platforms is all the MTX in the game just means more $$$.
Crayon
Member
News outlets fluff microsoft all day.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
No.
It's funny how you talk about people playing console wars and that's exactly what you're known for doing on this forum.
GHG
Member
Bumblebeetuna
Member
You’ve graduated from “they started it” to “I know you are but what am I”. I’m so proud of you!
He's just upset he has nobody to play Bleeding Edge with.
Be gentle.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You’ve graduated from “they started it” to “I know you are but what am I”. I’m so proud of you!
I'm pointing out the obvious, something you refuse to acknowledge.
Action has conquences. If Xbox fanboys bragged about exclusives that their exclusives are only on the PS platform while PS games were on PC and PS4, then Xbox fans shouldn't complain because this is a direct result of their own actions.
So when you say, "It's the 'they started it' logic," that means you're not willing to put the blame on Xbox fans for their own action. You don't want to do this because you often defend Microsoft and Xbox on this forum.
But go ahead, keep defending. It's just hilarious at this point.
Roberts
Member
Not true, Sea of Thieves and Grounded were greenlit by MS and, ironically enough, are the best games on this list.
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