Not only did they keep Minecraft on PlayStation, they also updated to the Bedrock edition, made a PSVR version, put out THREE Minecraft spinoffs on PlayStation.
Such a poorly researched rebuttal. They've 100% kept to their word.
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Microsoft Said It Would Have Kept Sega Games Multiplatform After Proposed Buyout
Not only did they keep Minecraft on PlayStation, they also updated to the Bedrock edition, made a PSVR version, put out THREE Minecraft spinoffs on PlayStation.
Such a poorly researched rebuttal. They've 100% kept to their word.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
adamsapple it is hardly Microsoft who put in the need for non exclusivity of Minecraft. Considering its two parties involved in the contract, and one is fucking Notch, my money is on Notch for putting it in the contract.
It's in none of the juicy documents so far, so unless proven otherwise ...
I mean sure, if you conveniently want to go that route.
Sega's acquisition talk and the talk of keeping their games multi-platform were also discussed in internal emails, they were not a part of any kind of proposal package sent to Sega.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Very likely Yakuza as well.
Fabieter
Member
And ms had no choice with Microsoft.
Riky
$MSFT
Fabieter
Member
Whops Minecraft. They had no choice with Minecraft.
Riky
$MSFT
Already said there in no evidence of that. Bungie were very clear at the purchase that they would remain multiformat.
bender
What time is it?
It's in none of the juicy documents so far, so unless proven otherwise ...
I mean sure, if you conveniently want to go that route.
Sega's acquisition talk and the talk of keeping their games multi-platform were also discussed in internal emails, they were not a part of any kind of proposal package sent to Sega.
The only reason Phil wanted to keep SEGA multiplatform is that he knows that it isn't wise to provoke the furry community.
Vognerful
Member
I actually see the total opposite.yep Microsoft is always very weasely with their wording, just like Bethesda there’s no doubt in my mind that anything new would have become exclusive if they had somehow bought Sega
of course the same people that defend them here are the same ones that turn around & claim that obviously Microsoft only meant stuff like ESO & Fallout 76 despite having claimed the opposite before the deal closed
there’s a huge spat of intellectual dishonesty going on right now and strange how it’s almost entirely in ‘favor’ of one of the richest corporations in the world?
People who were making fun of Xbox guys that Microsoft paid all that money to make CoD multiplatform, depriving fanboys of ammo in exclusive shit threads, are now the most vocal in saying that CoD will be for sure exclusive.
Topher
Identifies as young
It's in none of the juicy documents so far, so unless proven otherwise ...
I mean sure, if you conveniently want to go that route.
Sega's acquisition talk and the talk of keeping their games multi-platform were also discussed in internal emails, they were not a part of any kind of proposal package sent to Sega.
It isn't a matter of "convenience", but consistency. So yeah, seeing this I'm now more inclined to believe that truly was Microsoft's strategy. Do you believe that to be the case as well?
Fabieter
Member
So was mojang. There is no evidence that its in the contract forcing sony to do multiplatform.
Riky
$MSFT
Bungie said it at purchase, go back read the thread.
There is no evidence for Mojang at all, since it's just been in the court hearings that Microsoft discussed Minecraft games being exclusive then it follows they could have been so.
Fabieter
Member
Where is the evidence that sony is forced to support bungie being multiplatform. There is none.
Vognerful
Member
No to mention that Bethesda was planned to go exclusive which they did. So if they planned to go multiplatform with Sega, why question that?
Vognerful
Member
They didn't.
drganon
Member
Just trust the serial liar, what a brilliant strategy.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I believe Booty's email was specifically talking about GP content (as the subject of his email was GP ARPU) but in general, yes, they need to spend money to get big named content on GP.
Yep. And this is internal communication, not something Phil or Booty said to The Verge.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Topher
Identifies as young
This is about Booty's email talking about Microsoft's "strategy" to put Sony out of business.
Riky
$MSFT
"We remain in charge of our destiny. We will continue to independently publish and creatively develop our games. We will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community. Our games will continue to be where our community is, wherever they choose to play."
Bungie.net
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
* Spend out of business.
But, again, that email is about game pass, he literally says so in the next lines.
I hope by one you mean RGG right, not Sonic ?
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Vognerful
Member
What is RGG?* Spend out of business.
But, again, that email is about game pass, he literally says so in the next lines.
I hope by one you mean RGG right, not Sonic ?
Topher
Identifies as young
That's fine, but putting Sony out of business is the strategy. Spending or otherwise.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The Doom games and Quake were ported to PS5.
Marathon doesn’t even exist, outside of a movie trailer.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
PlayStation got the Bedrock edition? I remember them kicking and screaming against cross platform play, while even Nintendo was cool with it.
Fabieter
Member
"We remain in charge of our destiny. We will continue to independently publish and creatively develop our games. We will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community. Our games will continue to be where our community is, wherever they choose to play."
Bungie.net
www.bungie.net
That's an indication at best it's contractually forced.
Minecraft was handed independently from xbox game studios as well, the messaging was just different.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
You should probably stick to the LOL emojis.
They eventually caved to common sense and got it in 2019.
Mojang is part of Microsoft game studios, and there’s no contract or deal keeping Minecraft on PlayStation.
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Pinky promise? I'll only believe it if it's pinky promise.
Where did you get that from?
Topher
Identifies as young
Matt Booty
internal documents discussing the proposed acquisition explicitly call for the games to remain multiplatform.
I’m not sure how you can argue against that, but alas…
Matt Booty’s email in 2019 clearly highlighted it was his personal opinion that they’re able to spend to put Sony out of business. And the context was that it wasn’t a shared opinion.
How you’ve magicked that into an official strategy from decision makers at Microsoft is something to behold. Especially when all the emails and documents pulled from 2020 to date don’t mirror that strategy, and their acquisition targets focused largely on smallish developers, with Sega and Bungie an exception.
You believe buying Sega or Bungie plus the likes of IOI would have put Sony out of business?
We’ve also seen reams of internal emails showing that indeed, Mobile was the key focus for this ABK play.
Fabieter
Member
I mean ms announced the Bethesda acquisition in September 2020 and deals like that take months to complete. And it's not like companys have a short/mid and longterm plans.
Riky
$MSFT
Proof?
Topher
Identifies as young
Pump the brakes, dude. Booty's email being called a "strategy" was part of a different conversation comparing it to the Sega documents. And no, I wasn't the one who initially called it that. I just brought it forward as it had been described previously. I even put it in quotes in one post.
I will say I shouldn't have said "Microsoft's strategy" as it was, as you say, Booty's own view. Either way, that wasn't the crux of the discussion. It was about consistency in how these documents were being discussed.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why stop there. Just go with the already approved narrative, Thought Experiment™
You are saying a whole lot of nothing right now.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I don’t believe it, but Microsoft probably wouldn’t have much of a choice keeping those games multiplatform because that would be the only way they would make money off of Sega games.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
"It's in the hearing bro"
Seriously, imagine that. If any of the documents so far had even a line on it, it would be an article on websites, a topic on GAF etc etc.
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Thirty7ven
Banned
They would become exclusive.
This describes this post, ironically.
So basically there's no evidence in released material that there's an active or defunct Microsoft strategy to put Playstation out of business.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And yet Bethesda doesn't feature in any of those short, mid or long term acquaition plans. And from leaked documents, it's clear Mobile was their most prominent long term plan for acquisitions.
We saw an internal 2020 acquisition target list, remember? What this thread is based on?
Other than buying up the top publishers in the world and outspending Sony doing so.
They engineered the Kotick crisis at Activision to make then open to buyout?
Aside from the fact that King makes up a significant part of the deal, it's hard to make up a case for 'putting Playstation out of business' when they've already made binding commitments to have Call of Duty on PS5 and PS6.
20 year plan, perhaps?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Still on this, eh?