Anton Sugar
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What do you do that involves using both an iPad and a MBA at the same time?
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Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Announced (12", 3:2 aspect ratio, new stand)
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What do you do that involves using both an iPad and a MBA at the same time?
dem
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I mostly commute, and bringing a tablet in my bag in addition to my laptop adds significant weight. Kindle e-reader (without case) is like the only device light enough that I don't mind bringing with me everywhere.
TerryLee81
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Reading and writing for one thing. Looking at text on one screen and typing text into another screen instead of constantly flipping between documents on the same screen.
MrGreencastle
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That $1249 model is tempting. No need for the i7, but instead of getting a laptop, I may get this. I've owned both the Surface RT and Surface 2, but never a pro. This thing is really nice, and fits my needs.
I think the low-end model is my issue. The higher end model is priced too high, and the Surface Pro just that much more portable than a lightweight, fully-functional ultrabook like the Yoga.
The lower end SHOULD be the more attractive model, but it's spec'd too low.
I'm a designer, so a devices that prioritizes portability while being able to flex some muscle when I need it is right up my alley. But at the price they're asking, there are simply better options. And I'm saying this as someone who WANTS one of these, despite reason.
Phoenix
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But does the DEMOGRAPHIC see it as a full scale laptop disguised as a tablet or do they see it as an expensive tablet. That's the issue that they keep having - there is a marketing message disconnect. Microsoft has been having an issue with marketing messages hampering sales of late and this is looking like another one of those instances.
It's funny these things still don't have GPS built in, (that cheapo asus vivo tab note 8 does) but then again looks like nobody notices that it's missing anyway, probably doesn't matter at this size.
yeah that's completely valid if those people find it a good alternative or not. It's been popular with artists for example (probably not anymore now lol), the rest who knows we never get sale numbers....
yeah that's completely valid if those people find it a good alternative or not. It's been popular with artists for example (probably not anymore now lol), the rest who knows we never get sale numbers....
Anton Sugar
Member
Snap takes care of this on Windows 8, no?
dem
Member
Theres this thing called snap
You may get to experience multitasking when apple invents it in ios8
Actually I wonder if the other reason the mini didn't show is due to the merge under way with RT and WP.
It sounds like for Windows 9, the WinRT runtime will be shared across computers, tablets, and phones. Moreover, the kernel itself for RT and WP devices will be shared. Maybe they just didn't think it made sense to release until that's ready?
It sounds like for Windows 9, the WinRT runtime will be shared across computers, tablets, and phones. Moreover, the kernel itself for RT and WP devices will be shared. Maybe they just didn't think it made sense to release until that's ready?
Wait, does OSX not have the equivalent of Windows snap? Or can't you resize windows?
This seems quite the overkill.
Anton Sugar
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From the other thread (thanks, windu): there is a sleeve on the Type Cover for your stylus.
How can you say there's a marketing disconnect when all you've seen are pictures.
"This time, Microsoft says the tablet really can replace your laptop." /Ars
"Microsoft's Surface Pro 3 is designed to destroy the laptop" /Verge
"incredible when you remember this is more akin to an Ultrabook than a tablet." /Engadget
All on the title or in the first paragraph.
Are they supposed to put labels on that thing.
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TheRagnCajun
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lol still no ac wifi. The adoption rate for this is painfull
killer rin
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I wonder if they are going to drop the price of the SP2 and keep those around as a lower end model.
NeOak
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IT DOES.
You need DP1.2 monitors with pass-through for the daisy chain though. Then its up to the Intel GPU, which iirc supports 3 external in daisy chain. The 24" Dell monitors that do this are like 250 ea. IPS.
My SP2 does it in and out of the dock :/
You can buy a 3x1 DP external switch too and use that, but I haven't done it myself.
He has mad Starbucks cred with that setup.
dem
Member
I'd imagine huge problems as well seeing as iOS is always killing apps on me when im not even doing much
MS is absolutely failing in getting the message across to the general public, going back all the way to the Surface 1. If this were an Apple product you'd better believe people'd be shitting in their collective pants.
Until ISP's start regularly offering it ... there's going to be a bit of a chicken/egg situation with a lot of CE's.
this has AC though
NeOak
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Gaming benchs? Problem is that the GPU is not an Iris Pro, so its gonna get stomped.
Rodney McKay
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Not if you don't want to lose screen space, no.
I don't personally use a tablet and laptop at the same time regularly, but I do use my tablet for listening to podcasts while I play PC games, and I have used OneNote on a tablet as a reverance guide while working on a doc on my laptop at other times.
The shitty 1366x768 laptops they give us at work don't give a lot of room for having multiple windows on screen at a time. In a perfect world I wish you could just turn tablets into an external monitor without doing semi-laggy internet based screen mirroring as a work around.
Get used to spaces. I loved multiple workspaces in Ubuntu for school work so much I would write questions from a book into a text document so that I didn't have to look away from the screen
Edit: A quick key command really helps. I used the F1-4 keys at first and then switched to Super+1-4. Super is what the Windows key is called there.
Nope. Doesn't work for me. I want and need to look at a larger screen, or two larger screens full of my info. (I'm looking at scientific text BTW with lots of equations and things like that.) So I have no interest in shrinking the size of the text on my screen in order to see more things at the same time.
Get used to spaces. I loved multiple workspaces in Ubuntu for school work so much I would write questions from a book into a text document so that I didn't have to look away from the screen
I totally use spaces in OSX all the time. Having another tablet screen next to you is better though IMO.
RAM pricing is the real problem here. The cheaper models should have 8GB. Firefox on its own can easily push 2GB with multiple tabs and extensions. Throw in Photoshop, and you are near the RAM limit with only 2 applications open.
64 GB hard drive may also be too low unless Microsoft has changed the way they handle legacy support in Windows 8. My Windows 7 folder on my desktop machine has grown to something something like 40 GB, due to all the different library versions it's holding.
64 GB hard drive may also be too low unless Microsoft has changed the way they handle legacy support in Windows 8. My Windows 7 folder on my desktop machine has grown to something something like 40 GB, due to all the different library versions it's holding.
Lol, I was like you once:
It's not really a good experience. Reaching from the MBA trackpad to constantly touch the iPad screen gets tedious quickly (I even tried using the iPad screen as wifi monitor for a bit). One larger screen is better imo
NB: the Surface/Windows 8 has a nice screen tiling mode for multiple apps/documents
GreatMightySymp
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I still prefer my SP2 size (if I was getting into the 12-13in category I'd go for something like a MBPr), but it is a nice design.
It does have ac wifi. Check the fact sheet.
NeOak
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They are using more dense chips for the 8GB version, but I agree the price is ridiculous.
And yes, it has changed. Win7 is a fat cow compared to 8 in HDD and RAM use. Plus you can move the recovery partition to an USB drive and have that space for use.
Lone_Prodigy
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Size and weight are pretty appealing. My friend has a Pro 2 and it's really heavy, and as a laptop replacement it's a bit on the small side. The low end model is reasonably priced too.
Will have to see what the Pro 2 will drop to price wise first.
Will have to see what the Pro 2 will drop to price wise first.
Anton Sugar
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Nice, thanks for the info/correction. I wonder if he was specifically asking if there is more than one display port, though.
I just bought a laptop 1/2 a year ago, and my iPad I got from graduation Summer of 2012 is perfectly functional, but fuck it, I'm buying the new Surface
Pro 2 will likely take a drop in price.. currently it's $100 more base than the Pro 3 lol
Phoenix
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Reviews aren't marketing messages. Marketing messages are the outward expressions from Microsoft into the channel. Consumers are already aware of Microsoft, they are already aware of Surface and consistently the product has underperformed in the marketplace even with its supposed "Pro" target audience. By changing some of the innards they have somewhat disgruntled one Pro segment - artists, so I look for other segments that they might be targeting in the laptop replacement cycle. Pros have a product replacement cycle just like everyone else so I keep looking for "What is the Customer Profile" for the person who buys this with these generic marketing messages. (Yes, I currently do work for an advertising agency) The Customer Profile that they keep painting looks exactly like the one that isn't buying. Were they asking for MOAR POWER at any price?
TheRagnCajun
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Agreed.
How do you manage both the iPad and MBA on your lap at the same time?
uhh, no it doesn't
edit: well maybe the 799, has an i3. but the battery life sucks on the original surface pro.