It's on the first post of this thread look for fact sheet download link.
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Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Announced (12", 3:2 aspect ratio, new stand)
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Those aren't reviews. Those are first impression articles, headlining the introduction of a new product. That's the first thing people are supposed to read when they see the introduction of a new surface pro. Also, what exactly are you comparing the success of Surface Pro against? iPads?
Based on what you're saying you might as well say they should kill the Surface name because there's no chance of changing or improving the message. The device was just unveiled an hour ago.
Pro 1 has shit battery life in comparison, I don't think it's worth it anymore. If Pro 2 is discounted that's the one to get. For now hold.
TheRagnCajun
Member
Oh ok. Sorry, I don't download stuff at work. I'll take your word for it though.
Nice pic! Touching both the iPad screen and the MBA trackpad never really bothered me that much. Personally one 10 or 11 or 12" screen is not large enough for me. My main computers and home and work both have 27" screens.
Why would I put both of them on my lap? Never did that before.
Yep the I3 is my concern, also I'll be needing the cover keypad and is not specified if it's included on 799$
it is not included.
Here's the link to Microsoft's spec sheet
, it's a download. AC is on there.
Edit: I have no idea what is going on with the post formatting
Anton Sugar
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This is the most puzzling part of their attempt to shed the "it's a tablet" image.
I'm with you, I do this all the time. Lots of times I'll have a formula sheet or textbook on my iPad while having assignment questions or my input on my 13" MBPr.
Often when I'm studying I have MacBook + iPad + Paper notebook in front of me. Way better than having one slightly larger display
Skyrim would be a good game to test.
Far less portable, but you can use video out to have multiple displays. I still opt for my iPad mini + SP1, but that's mostly because I don't have a monitor with HDMI.
The new type cover actually supports Pro 1, Pro 2 and 2 too. I bought a type cover 2 a couple of weeks ago :\
It's like the $100 wifi dongle for xbox 360, it's same business model. I don't think they make much money on the units themselves when you account for R&D and marketing..... but everyone wants one of those overpriced covers after they buy a surface right?
It's like the $100 wifi dongle for xbox 360, it's same business model. I don't think they make much money on the units themselves when you account for R&D and marketing..... but everyone wants one of those overpriced covers after they buy a surface right?
threetri333
Banned
My friend is selling MBP 15' 512GB Late 2013 Brand New for $1800. Should I go for the Surface Pro 3 instead?
Anton Sugar
Member
If I preorder tomorrow, when will my card be charged?
Phoenix
Member
No. The iPad remains firmly a consumer product - even though there are a number of businesses that exploit it quite handily. Samsung and their army of Note and Tab Pro devices are the Surface Pros near peers in form factor. Laptops, however, are the buy of the corporate buyer and most Pros. However we've had multiple form factors for the laptop including the flipping, rotating, detaching screen and haven't seen an adoption change. Essentially you're trying to bring the market to the product which is substantially harder, and I question the size of the segment that they are charging for. What market penetration are they going after with the segment that they want to reach because consistently they have underperformed and nothing about this seems to suggest a difference in strategy.
What you are talking about isn't a marketing message. A marketing message is what MICROSOFT says about its product, not how the product is perceived or received by the press. I see a similar thing with the Xbox One marketing. "No its not selling well, but lets keep the same message in the channel... if we just stick with it eventually it will click." And people keep buying the competition.
Has the actual tech changed though?
7 did not take up a lot of disk space initially. The disk use increases over time because Windows never throws away old versions of libraries and it keeps around the data that gets patched via Windows Update. So once you have run the OS for 2 or 3 years, it is a lot bigger than it initially was.
So you see why simply observing that W8 currently doesn't use that much space is not enough to conclude it won't use a lot of space 2 years from now.
The Verge has a hands on video up. Writing looks very responsive.
Like I said, the device has just been unveiled and you're already making conclusions. I'm not sure what you expect to happen at this point. That suddenly everyone has a new perception of the Surface devices just because a new device has been unveiled? Why are you talking about all these as if it's a forgone conclusion? You can make all these statements with or without a new device unveiling. So I'm not getting your point. Also, in general Windows 8 hybrids have failed to take off. What sources are you quoting that mentions specifically that Surface Pro alone has underperformed against other similar devices at the same price range? It may not have lit the industry on fire, but what I've read seems to suggest it's selling decently within it's own category.
Like I said, the device has just been unveiled and you're already making conclusions. I'm not sure what you expect to happen at this point. That suddenly everyone has a new perception of the Surface devices just because a new device has been unveiled? Why are you talking about all these as if it's a forgone conclusion? You can make all these statements with or without a new device unveiling. So I'm not getting your point. Also, in general Windows 8 hybrids have failed to take off. What sources are you quoting that mentions specifically that Surface Pro alone has underperformed against other similar devices at the same price range? It may not have lit the industry on fire, but what I've read seems to suggest it's selling decently within it's own category.
Phoenix
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Normally pre-authorized at preorder and not charged until shipped.
The Abominable Snowman
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Wasn't this changed a couple years ago for 7 and 8?
Complex Shadow
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thing is we dont have anything solid yet to go on. this is something you should ask once all the bench marks and prices are released.
Rubbish King
The gift that keeps on giving
want, but the price is TOO DAMN HIGH!
ncsuDuncan
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So is it just preorders opening tomorrow or is that when they actually start shipping them out?
that's my hope a lower price of Pro2 that make him more appealing for my wallet
pre-orders I would assume.
Anton Sugar
Member
Target market/audience:
13" Retina MBP w/i5 2.4ghz/4GB RAM/128GB - $1299
13" Retina MBP w/i5 2.4ghz/8GB RAM/256GB - $1499
13" Retina MBP w/i5 2.6ghz/8GB RAM/512GB - $1799
15" Retina MBP w/i7 2.0ghz/8GB RAM/256GB - $1999
ncsuDuncan
Member
Hm. I just need to get a new laptop before I leave for E3. Might look into getting a SP2.
NeOak
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Pre-orders are open right now, it "releases" tomorrow, when they will be officially open for orders. I assume it will ship sometime this week.
I think people are just a bit miffed that the keyboard is still an add-on on top of that.
Seems the most balanced one to me. Could've gone with a lower storage space and used a bigger microSD card instead, but I really want 8GB ram.
Anton Sugar
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What do you mean by "didn't work for me at all"? This guy has Diablo 3 running fairly smoothly on the first gen Surface Pro.
Thanks! Looks like my fate is sealed.
NeOak
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Yep. Three iterations and I can't believe people are still confused with that. This is a laptop and tablet.
At that price i'd expect the keyboard. Anyways this looks like the best non-macbook laptop on the market.
Anton Sugar
Member
Oh shit. Looks like I'll have to wait a bit, then. For some reason, thought this was shipping much later.
front view with keyboard attached looks great with keyboard just going to the screen and no bezel in sight.
Oh that's the pen loop thing.
TurtleSnatcher
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So them going to a N Trig from Wacom.. is that good?
Always heard great things about Wacom and not about N Trig. Curious to know from some more experienced here.
Always heard great things about Wacom and not about N Trig. Curious to know from some more experienced here.
If you are buying from the online MS store, they don't charge until it ships. They do run a pre-auth though.
Agreed, both Ipads and Android tablets feel crippled to me in comparison (to be fair, those are straight up and up tablets - the Surface is a laptop).
It's an ultrabook competitor
What do you mean both ways?
had the wrong pic, it flattens too still.