Anton Sugar
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I don't think it physically "attaches" more than one way; you can just fold it up so the keyboard is attached to the screen/propped up.
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Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Announced (12", 3:2 aspect ratio, new stand)
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I don't think it physically "attaches" more than one way; you can just fold it up so the keyboard is attached to the screen/propped up.
dem
Member
Snap makes ios seem dated/limited as fuck.. and i much prefer Metro IE to safari..
Too bad about the app store though.
The basics are there.. but its just stale. Very slow to grow. Too much CRAP populating the charts.
I'm not really huge on apps though. im 95% of the time browsing the web.. even on ios.
Too bad about the app store though.
The basics are there.. but its just stale. Very slow to grow. Too much CRAP populating the charts.
I'm not really huge on apps though. im 95% of the time browsing the web.. even on ios.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Just to be clear - Same GPU as the Surface Pro 2, correct?
LukasTaves
Member
front view with keyboard attached looks great with keyboard just going to the screen and no bezel in sight.
I NEED THIS ON THIS COLOR
Yeah, but those 64GB :/
Aye, I'm probably going to a combo of Surface Pro 3 and mac
A common criticism of the Surface Pro has been that it doesn't work on a lap like a regular notebook. A combo of iPad + 11" MBA just isn't portable or 'lapability' like the new surface pro.
It's funny reading through the thread and really highlights the issues MS faces with hybrids. Everyone's all over the map trying to compare this with tablets and/or laptops, depending on the angle you want to take.
In any case, I'm interested to see one of these in person. Screen seems nice and getting it at 2 pounds is pretty decent.
In any case, I'm interested to see one of these in person. Screen seems nice and getting it at 2 pounds is pretty decent.
Jailer of Hope
Member
No Wacom is a huge bummer. Otherwise I think it looks solid. Seems like the Pro 3 is meant to coexist with the Pro 2 in a more equal fashion than the Pro 1 and Pro 2.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
The fuck?
They got rid of the wacom?
Might as well just buy a Dell Venue Pro tablet then, the main appeal of the Surface Pro was teh Wacom tech.
They got rid of the wacom?
Might as well just buy a Dell Venue Pro tablet then, the main appeal of the Surface Pro was teh Wacom tech.
Sir Abacus
Member
It's not terrible but when you consider you're paying $130 for the cover it's kind of... meh? Especially when they're using a 4300U instead of a 4250U. You could buy a third party keyboard, mouse and USB hub cheaper but at that point it's not really a laptop replacement is it?
It's not bad but it's just... meh. It's all 15W TDP parts which is fine when you're playing on the MBA side of the spectrum. But when you're trying to shoehorn a 15W i7 part into the case and then go up against the rMBP price point with it's big boy i7-4750HQ (or 4850HQ) plus having to buy the $130 keyboard it's like, why exactly am I going through this exercise when Windows has such terrible DPI scaling anyway?
NeOak
Member
Asus Note 8 has Wacom, I've used my Surface Pen on it.
Oh, you mean the 11? With that Synaptics digitizer? Ewww. I've tried it on the DVP8 with the A01 pen. N-Trig is better.
NeOak
Member
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Why not use a better N-trig pen? 256 levels and a AAAA battery? Why not 512 at least a USB rechargeable pen? It would suck to have to buy batteries while on a plane. Such a shitty downgrade.
Wondering why no wagon pen and the OneNote quick feature could have been enabled by putting the pen close to the screen.
Either way though, it doesn't affect me wanting this. I'm not an artist.
I'm tired of the price issue people have with Surface Pro's. These are premium computers in tablet form. Every bit as quality as any Mac device.
Either way though, it doesn't affect me wanting this. I'm not an artist.
I'm tired of the price issue people have with Surface Pro's. These are premium computers in tablet form. Every bit as quality as any Mac device.
I think that would be enough for me with an SD card and USB slot.
Steelyuhas
Member
Ships June 20th in the US.
I recently bought an SP2 and although I'm pretty jelly of this device they showed today, I am quite happy with my SP2 as a laptop replacement.
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...?Icid=Homepage_Hero_1_Surface_Announce_052014
Just noticed on the website that only the i5 models have a ship by date of 20th June, the rest have ship by dates of 31st August. Hmm.
And on the page they're comparing SP3 against MBP.
Just noticed on the website that only the i5 models have a ship by date of 20th June, the rest have ship by dates of 31st August. Hmm.
And on the page they're comparing SP3 against MBP.
In tablet mode most people are gonna want tablet apps.
Didn't Microsoft significant ly improve its dpi scaling with 8.1? Pretty sure it did.
Sir Abacus
Member
Ouch.
LukasTaves
Member
Ouch, my aunt just told me she bough a Surface pro 2 for her... Do I break the news to her or not?
NeOak
Member
Most likely because Wacom would have charged a lot, plus they haven't updated the tech in years other than the Cintiq lines. You have to use the "Penabled" or whatever pens that are years old tech :/.
N-trig already works fine on 13", see the Vaio tablet 13".
And no, you can't do it that way. Getting the pen close to the screen already activates the palm rejection plus the pen is really just an inductor on a capacitive screen.
If she got it at a MS store, they have a 14 days no questions asked returns policy.
Sir Abacus
Member
If you're living in an all-Metro world the DPI scaling has dramatically improved. In desktop-land? Not so much. It's the only thing holding me back from buying one of those sweet, sweet 4K 27" displays for my PC.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
You have apps with WIndows 8
Mostly a preference thing. The game ran, though the mouse sensitivity was pretty "off" in game, while it was fine in the menus. The small screen size and keyboard form factor just didn't work for me when playing a game. I have somewhat small hands, but I couldn't really fit them on it.
I still think the machine is neat and I liked the tablet features for sports/paint/web browsing, but I would caution someone who would buy it intending to play games a lot. If possible it I'd recommend trying playing a game on it before buying, though that can be difficult to arrange unless a friend/family member owns one.
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The Everyman
return it!
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Still absolutely happy with Pro 1. Best machine.
yeah, it's same 4400 and Core i5 4300U. Now we don't know what the Core i7 or i3 model is or if they have a different GPU (probably not)
Sir Abacus
Member
The Core i3 doesn't have a 15W part with a 5000 series GPU and the 15W i7 with a 5000 series is $426 on the tray compared to $393 for a 4400HD series. So I'm guessing they're both going to be 4400 series parts.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
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Chezzymann
Member
Is there gonna be a student discount for this?
I just bought an SP2 last month, but, not sure I feel compelled enough to sell it and get this. The higher res screen is nice but Windows doesn't handle DPI scaling anywhere near as well as OSX. Chrome fonts look blurry on my SP2, and that's probably going to be even more pronounced at higher res.
Sir Abacus
Member
Intel demands their tribute of $280+ per CPU because there's no competition at <45W.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Is this true about the pen?
It uses 1 AAAA and 2 319 coin cell batteries
WTF?
God damn it, so close to perfect art tablet :/
The cintiq companions have shit hardware and are too expensive.
It uses 1 AAAA and 2 319 coin cell batteries
WTF?
God damn it, so close to perfect art tablet :/
The cintiq companions have shit hardware and are too expensive.
LukasTaves
Member
Told her about it, now it's up to her. She's not too happy about the increased size, but loved everything else.
BTW: Can we expect different battery lives with different setups (processor and cpu), or it's going to be around the same for all?
Seriously considering picking one of these up. Just ran a Civ V campaign this weekend... every time I launch it and get that "launch DX10 version or Windows 8 with touch version" I get a really stupid techlust desire for a touchscreen.
I don't understand the pricing on the memory though. Why not start with the lower memory and then pick up an SD card if you decide you need it? You can get 128 gig Micro SD cards for like $100 vs the $300 or $400 premium for the onboard storage...
I don't understand the pricing on the memory though. Why not start with the lower memory and then pick up an SD card if you decide you need it? You can get 128 gig Micro SD cards for like $100 vs the $300 or $400 premium for the onboard storage...
LukasTaves
Member
Surface Pro 1 is able to run the game at 1080p with shadows on low, some stuff on medium and still keep higher than 30fps.
This should be even better.
ComputerMKII
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Lone_Prodigy
Member
I ran Disk Cleanup a month ago, noticed old Win7 installations were taking up a large part of my hard drive, and deleted it.
Start my PC the next day and the boot loader is missing. All my system restore backups are gone too and various command line fixes didn't work either. Had to get a Linux OS of a USB key to backup my hard drive before reinstalling Windows.
EatinOlives
Member
I'll stick with my SP2. I love it but other than the slightly larger screen, which I honestly don't think I need, there's nothing here that makes me wanna jump to an SP3.
Plus SP3s are expensive as fuck.
Plus SP3s are expensive as fuck.