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MMA-GAF |OT5| Father Time Is Undefeated

A) Dana considered the 20th anniversary card "too stacked"
B) They made a conference call and requested an extra cycle.
C) Frank claimed an injury to avoid a loser leaves town match, Joe Silver laughed and moved the date.
D) Overeem had a high school reunion in Texas.
E) Frank claimed an injury that would keep him out a few months, Dana hints at something big for BJJ wizard Brendan Schaub after his submission win over Mitrione which would've been replacing Mir, Overeem rejects the fight since Schaub is even more of a punchline than he currently is, Dana moves the fight to Feb.
 

Gr1mLock

Passing metallic gas
and I think I had stuff spoiled for me as well during one of my extremely rare facebook sessions. Was about a character living I think. Bah.

Pretty satisfying conclusion i must say. The episode before the last one might have been my favorite of the last few.
 

muddream

Banned
nah I mean people who were posting in there that knew their shit and were obviously very familiar with the inner workings of MMA.

Indeed, R.I.P. to this guy's account.

WTF...

No, Seriously...

W

T

F?

I dont know what to do... laugh, cry, throw something... I was just... WTFBBQ man...

If they dont starting making the female fighters the star attractions and I mean now - they done, honest.

I cant even get angry - I became a bigger fan because of Slice... and he did this? I mean UFC has its "Japanese Problem" (Machida is 15 and 0 and no title yet? BS) and hotshotting titles (Brock with a TITLE match in his third fight!? Against Coulture of all people!?) but say what you will of Dana - and Strikeforce is small and Affection doesnt have the money as of yet - but this... wow. Not that the card was bad or anything but This was the same type event or idea that Brought WCW to the dance back in 1994. The diffence was WCW succeded for a good long while - XC flunked the test.

Badly.

And Gina deserves better than that monstrosity that took place at the end of the event (Look, - enough with the tranny jokes on Cristane. Shes cute when not fighting - but not as hot as Gina ^_^), But Japan's fight game is near death - and the US unless StrikeForce takes up the mantle, will stay UFC centric and that means Dana isnt gonna put females on the card. For many of you thats a good thing but that just means Gina who wants to fight and wants to win, and many other female stars of this budding side of the fastest growing sport in the land loses out - fuck even damn Top Model has a future star of that world coming up she just looks like Gina too.

But man... Man... -_-;;;;; :(
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industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I can't believe this shit. Not related to MMA at all, but the HR people at my work "accidentally" put me down to pay 18% tax this month instead of the correct 5% it should be. And as much of a kick in the balls their "you'll get it back next year" claim is, it's hard to remain focused on your work and trust them to not fuck up again next month after that.

As for MMA discussion: Reem vs Mir being delayed is bullshit. That fight literally encapsulates UFC vs. Other MMA orgs and is perfect for their 20th Anniversary event.
 
Work is cool for me today.. filling in on another mix stage and we're doing the season premiere of American Horror Story. Haven't seen the show before and it's pretty cool.

aaaaaaand then later in the day we start mixing a new episode of Glee.
 

Gr1mLock

Passing metallic gas
Friend crumbr I've noticed your identity crisis. Drm wont be happy you're not pulling your share of the team's weight
 

ShaneB

Member
My work this week has been pretty much a whole lot of nothing, waiting around while system transitioning is going on and things are broken.
 

bone_and_sinew

breaking down barriers in gratuitous nudity
I don't recognize a single name on tonight's MFC card and only 3 on the Bellator card (and they're all heavyweights). Yeah, I think I'm going to pass on tonight's Badness.
 
Brehs, forget about work, forget about bad mma. Just go watch Gravity asap.

Saw it in IMAX last night, not sure why everyone is saying MAKE SURE YOU SEE IT IN IMAX.

Its aspect ratio is 2.35:1 which means it only uses a very small portion of the IMAX screen.

The 3D was pretty understated and barely noticeable most of the time.

But it definitely was an amazing movie. Just don't waste your money on seeing it in IMAX.
 

Heel

Member
WSOF just updated their site to include a women's division that spans 5 weight classes, and a "WSOF Global" section that includes 7 regions, including Japan.

http://wsof.com/

One has to wonder, how do they plan on making money?
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
Last night's TUF was one of the most boring things I've ever seen. I'd like to see a season where the fighters dont have kids.

This no employable skills thing we talk about is no joke. MMA is almost like the male equivalent of the porn industry.
 

Dysun

Member
The best part of the episode was when they left count chockula toy with edmunds name on it in the training room, but he never saw it =(
 

industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Viacoms able to put out PPVs out their arse and not care about it.

They have so much money backup...eventually a real star arises.

Viacom are a huge public company. I'm sure their shareholders would fully agree with your notion of "not caring" about digging a hole, filling it with money and setting it on fire.

It's obvious that Viacom are gunning for short term gains with Bellator, as they've switched gears from Rebney's previous tactic of playing it slow and letting fighters develop themselves and more into Strikeforce territory of trying to actively compete with the UFC with big contracts, pushing ex-UFC fighters and even having the balls to put out a PPV. But no-one seems to have told Viacom that there's very few gains to make at all in MMA, let alone short-term ones.

Give Viacom a year or so to absorb losses and to get bored of low ratings & lack of interest, and I'm sure that one of the Fertitta brothers will write a cheque with an acceptable sum and that will be the end of that.

It almost looks like he took a dive, but he probably just blacked out for a moment in the middle of all that and fell back on his face.

That's what makes it look weird, no one falls back on their face.

It kind of looks like a bad stoppage. Lavar got clipped and chicken danced onto his face, but it looked like he covered up immediately with the ref ending it simply because he landed on his face.
 

Heel

Member
It kind of looks like a bad stoppage. Lavar got clipped and chicken danced onto his face, but it looked like he covered up immediately with the ref ending it simply because he landed on his face.

That's the live angle, and I thought the same originally. The replay from the other side is a lot more agreeable. He did pop up immediately, but when he landed he was out and took some shots.
 

Dysun

Member
Landing on your face like that means you were knocked the fuck out, even if it was 1 second that's not a bad stoppage cmon now
 

industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Chael Sonnen breaks it the fuck down. Easily the smartest guy in the room when it comes to fighters and the principles behind the "sport" of MMA.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/10/...ortance-of-promotion-and-why-to-never-say-ill

If you were to ask me, ‘Hey Chael, what's it take to be a star in the UFC?' I could give you a pretty good guess, but that's all it would be. I don't really know.

Every year there's something called a Fighter Summit. And the very first one we went to, Dana White touched on this topic, and I'll quote Dana, because he was right. Dana said, ‘I don't know what it takes to be a star. It's a very strange formula.' You take a guy like Conor McGregor, it's overnight. You take a guy like Brock Lesnar, he just walks into the spot.

But the one constant the stars have is they win their fights. Every time you win, you get another fight. Every time you get a fight, you get promotion, marketing and media. Those things are what makes stars. It's the same thing with football. It's not whoever throws the most touchdowns. It's whoever makes it on ESPN or FOX Sports 1 the most that becomes the most famous quarterback. That's just how it works.

Fighting is an expression. It's a form of speech, and that's why they call it martial arts. It's an art. The greatest form of expression, or at least the most common that we have as human beings, what separates us from the animals, is speaking -- the ability to communicate. That's also an expression and an art, and they go hand in hand.

People bring it up to me, ‘Well, you're only in your spot because you can talk well.' Okay, first off, you could be right. But second, what, am I supposed to apologize for this? No. This is expression. I don't know any other way to communicate besides speaking. I mean, maybe I could pump it out in Morse code, but I don't think as many people are going to understand as when I just say the words. So yes, I think that everybody could do a better job of that.

I'm not a fight fan. If two guys walked outside right now and got into a fight, I'm not going to go out and watch. However, I'm a UFC fan, because I know who's fighting. I know why it's important to them, I know a little about each guy. And the UFC can't do all that on their own. We depend on fighters to tell the story. Why should I want you to win? Or, why should I want you to lose? Most importantly, why should I care about this match? And that's what the UFC does so well, they tell that story. Help them. They'll give you a medium. They'll give you interviews. Help them. When they do that, don't miss a chance.

I'll see a guy have a microphone in his face, and they'll ask him, ‘Who do you want to fight?' They will say time and time again, ‘Whoever the UFC wants me to fight.' Look, we're all just kind of banging our heads into a wall, going, ‘Listen genius, we know that's who you're going to fight. You have to fight who the UFC wants you to fight. The question was, who do you want? And you just missed your opportunity.' This is America. You're not going to get anything you don't ask for in this country. Don't be afraid, and don't be ashamed to ask.

I think a lot of guys don't pay attention. They don't pay attention to the industry. I don't think they pay attention very well to the fans.

We also deal with a misconception. There's a tremendous misconception. You'll hear this about martial arts -- martial arts are about respect and honor and all of these things. Don't forget, mixed martial arts is just a term that the Nevada state legislature created in 2001 to pass a law. It's not real. It's not what we're doing. We're fighting in a steel cage. That's what we're doing, with extremely limited rules.

One of the guys I enjoy being on camera the most is Nick Diaz. He hates it though. It's like, Nick, how can you possibly hate this? You're so good. Everything he says is interesting or funny. His post-fight speech with Joe Rogan after he lost to St-Pierre, this was gold. I'd have paid $50 just to hear that.

In a traditional martial arts gym, whether it's karate or kung fu or aikido, these guys will tell their students, ‘Whatever you do, make sure you never get in a fight. Walk away. Don't ever fight anybody, because you could really hurt them.' Now what they're really saying is, I know what I'm teaching you doesn't work. I don't want you to ever test it, because if it does, your father is going to quit bringing me $50 each month. Reality time: this isn't about honor and respect. This is about beating your opponent. This isn't about competition. This is a dirty and nasty sport that we do, because for some reason, you love it. And there's no need to apologize for that.
 

Gr1mLock

Passing metallic gas
Landing on your face like that means you were knocked the fuck out, even if it was 1 second that's not a bad stoppage cmon now

Oh yea. That was a really good shot. Super quick too. I cant tell where it landed but it looks like a upper jaw ear shot which would probably account for him still having enough sense to cover up after falling down.
 

dream

Member
--Spike will be airing a TV reality show special on Frank Shamrock and Ken Shamrock getting together to hash out their issues on Thursday at 11 p.m. after Impact.
 
Cotto/Rodriguez tonight should be a fucking war. Don't bother watching Klitschko/Povetkin before it though, Klitschko GSP'd his way to victory yet again.

HBO's Boxing starts at 6:45p PT / 9:45p ET

I'm down to nerd chat if you guys are

Also, Top Rank is streaming the undercard right now both from their website and through their iOS app. Apparently Larry Merchant is now doing Top Rank commentary instead of HBO.
 
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