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Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate |OT2| I'm Felyne Eggs-tatic!
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For online? Guild quests only.
Jeff Vader
Member
Can't you buy field horns?
Oh yeah...<.< Welp that was a bit of time waste trying to get field horns from the quests.XD
Jeff Vader
Member
Yeah but he wasn't even the problem, it was that stupid black AT-AT.
Haha true that, but it's probably because it died fast that it wasn't a big problem. Or the fact that it was a kitten...
Also down for G rank quests, picking your own GQ, taking turns etc, come play guys
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
Also down for G rank quests, picking your own GQ, taking turns etc, come play guys
Sure, give me a few minutes.
Jeff Vader
Member
I'm not sure what happened. One minute we were being yelled at to get off his lawn and the next the damn thing had a heart attack and died
Thanks everyone in my lobby for helping with getting those mats.
You can get a guild quest with G-rank Gore Magala. I got one after I killed Gore Magala on a G-rank expedition.
You can get a guild quest with G-rank Gore Magala. I got one after I killed Gore Magala on a G-rank expedition.
Don't worry I did the same thing before my friend told me you can buy them at the store
I have a g-rank gore guild quest if you want it. Just make sure you don't get a gore guild quest that's too high of a level because it turns into chaotic gore.
Oh I keep forgetting about expeditions and guild quests lol, But if leveling it up too much makes it a Chaos Gore Magala does that mean I have few tries to get the mats?
Jeff Vader
Member
I think if you delete it and receive it again wouldn't it reset it back to the original level?
That'd probably work.
Has anyone had experience with Evasion +3? If so, how useful is it? I've never used the evasion skill in MH3U or this game, so I've gotten used to how to dodge without it. Will the skill really make a huge difference with the normal rolling? Does it really stand out against things like HGE, Windproof, etc?
I haven't used evasion 3, but I notice a big difference when I use evasion 2. HG earplugs and evasion are awesome together.
AmethystEnd
Member
To semi-quote Gaijin Hunter, he wrote something like: "Evasion+1 is a great skill, evasion+2 is extremely powerful, and evasion+3 will turn you into a lazy spoiled bastard."
I'm pretty sure ice attack and element attack don't stack. You should check to see if one of them is greyed out, ie, not active.Finally beat caravan Teostra! Perfect too since he gave me the last elder blood I needed to complete my Kirin U armor set.
Now I've got my Daora Glaive ice atk armor.
Ice attack +3
Element atk up
Blight resist
Gem'd tremor resist
Fate down
My narwhal set given the squid Glaive and unicorn armor.
I'm still scared to do uka urgent to get to G rank though...
tragic
Developer
Unless you are playing Lance and want to do triple backdash invulnerability shenanigans, the only thing you'll get out of Evasion +3 are bad habits.
+1 is an amazing skill, especially on offense (allowing you to stay in close).
+4 frames, 10 total.
+2 is like, +1 with training wheels (gives you only 2 more frames). It gives you a couple extra frames to make up for off timing, but also lets you dodge a few more things.
+6 frames (from base), 12 total
+3 is basically a joke. Those extra 10 Skill Points (after Evasion +1) are much better suited for other skills... and going from a set with +3 to nothing (or even +1) will make you realize how reliant you've become on the Armor Skill and not actual timing and monster knowledge.
+12 frames (from base), 18 total
However, that being said, Evasion +3 is definitely a great skill for people having trouble evading big attacks and getting their timing down. You may want to combo it with Evade Dist to really make it near impossible to get hit (by most things).
It's good, real good, but you'd be better served with things like HGE (like you mentioned) or other skills relevant to your setup.
They do stack. There is slight diminishing returns with Ele atk up and [Elem] atk +3 though, you only get an extra 5% instead of an extra 10% from Ele atk up or something in that vein.
edit: link that explains it:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunt...ack_up_skills_increase_elemental_shot/cpdjspy
KittenMaster
Member
Rajang caravan 10 urgent is one monster im not going to bw ashamed of wanting divine armor sphere defense upgrades for. 1 frame attacks with sweeoint hitboxes that take half of my jp.
Bacon_Boss
Member
Anyone interested in farming seregios, or any other G 1-3 quest?
edit: Actually, room's up!
03-1053-4190-8074
G 1-3, Turns, Sacred fires, w/e
edit: Actually, room's up!
03-1053-4190-8074
G 1-3, Turns, Sacred fires, w/e
Bacon_Boss
Member
I'm in 530~ G tetsu armor, but if you want more bodies i could certainly try!
Anyone interested in farming seregios, or any other G 1-3 quest?
I'm only G2 but I'd wreck on some Seregios for a bit. Been farming charms is about all I've done today.
ColossalLazy
Member
Room doesnt exist
Bacon_Boss
Member
Sure! i'm in a kill room now but as soon as this fight ends we can join up!
edit:
Actually, room's up!
03-1053-4190-8074
G 1-3, Turns, Sacred fires, w/e
Sorry it is 00-5541-3133-1603
Any help is appeciated
Anyone interested in farming seregios, or any other G 1-3 quest?
ill join up in a bit if theres room, finishing up something right now
Not necessarily. With evasion+3, you can roll through roars effortlessly meaning you don't even need earplugs. Plus you can roll through several more attacks, meaning you can keep attacking right up until the last second instead of being forced to back off. You can roll through tiggy's spin attack. You can roll through teostra's super nova. Its not just a defensive tool, it can be used offensively too.
There's no reason the skill should make you lazy if you know how to change your strategy when not using.
Bacon_Boss
Member
go ahead and make a room, i dc'd from this fight, just finishing subquest and i'll jump in
Actually, room's up!
03-1053-4190-8074
G 1-3, Turns, Sacred fires, w/e
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
Finally got that blastheart! New set complete and I'm drowning in spare m tigrex parts by now. Speedeating +2 is awesome btw.
Great, so today will I get my Shagaru Magala Mantle at last?
Breaking both of Rajang's horns on a two monster quest without killing it before they're broken is pretty hard. :x
Finally finished my set though.
Congrats!
Finally finished my set though.
Congrats!
tragic
Developer
Like I mentioned, Evasion as a skill is good for offense - it's right in the first line when talking about Evasion +1. However, the 10 point requirement to go from Evasion +1 to +3 is not worth it from an offensive standpoint. If you are getting Evasion +3 for "offense", then you are doing it wrong. Those points are much better suited elsewhere (if you are talking about offense). If you are getting just for quality of life, then you are definitely doing it right. It's a great skill for that.
The DPS increase of rolling through a roar because of +3 is minuscule to what you'd get from Earplugs or HGE, in the majority of cases. You can immediately at the position you need to be instead of evading through the roll then having to run where you need to be. That also doesn't even count the fact that with Earplugs or HGE, you can immediately kick your teammates out the roar stun and/or you can use the time to set traps or use items.
With those extra 10 points,you can put them towards other actual offensive benefits, like Crit Draw, Sharpness +1, more points towards Artillery God, etc (whatever your weapon benefits most from).
No one gets Evasion +3 for offense. It makes you lazy. Like you said, "roll through roars effortlessly". Guess what, you can roll through some roars with Evasion +2... but it requires effort - knowledge, timing, execution... etc - basically many of the things that MH combat is about.
I'm sure most skills could be argued as having some offensive benefits, but realistically, no one takes Evasion +3 for offense. It's a quality of life skill. It removes much of the timing element required for good evades but does so in the place of other skills that would be more beneficial to actually dealing considerable extra damage for the same 10 point trade-off.
Jeff Vader
Member
I think I asked before but is there a list of monsters you need high grade earplugs against?
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
The only monsters I know that HG earplugs are used for is Diablos, and elder dragons.
tragic
Developer
Probably missing some.
Elder Dragons (not Kirin)
Jhos (regular, savage)
Mono/Diablos family
Basarios/Gravios (wake up roar)
Khezu family
Najarjala family
... probably forgot something.
Don't need them for Brach anymore (was downgraded).
Can't remember if you need them for Tigrex family, but HGE won't stop the super roar damage.
I think Metal Raths might need. Can't remember (I don't ever run just Earplugs, so I either have HGE or I don't).
shadow2810
Member
finally finished my charm god set, now time for some mining :_;