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Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate |OT2| I'm Felyne Eggs-tatic!

Danneee

Member
Just ordered this and was wondering of there's any good beginners guide? The stuff in the op wasn't any help as it seemingly linked to a blog and I'm completely new to the series. Only MH I've played is the demo on the eshop:)
 

redcrayon

Member
Got a lens just now on my second ever G-rank Seregios. Don't want any of his stuff at the moment.
Ok that makes me feel a bit better... Hopefully I won't have to kill too many more. I just want a full set for the Edgemaster skill, tired of my combos being ruined when I have a creature at my mercy. That combined with Constitution, and the Guard-Up from my talisman, will make a nice 'tanky' set for me.

Finally got my lens after killing 23 G-rank Seregios on my own. Bloody desire sensor!

Armour looks cool though.
 

Iryx

Member
Gogmazios finally coughed up a Dragonsphire. Got a whole stack of both Fortresses and Battlements so I'm not gonna be hurting for money anytime soon at least.
 

Shengar

Member
Just ordered this and was wondering of there's any good beginners guide? The stuff in the op wasn't any help as it seemingly linked to a blog and I'm completely new to the series. Only MH I've played is the demo on the eshop:)
Search for gaijinhunter youtube channel
 

Tom_Cody

Member
I'm pretty sure if you do guild hall offline, it scales to 1 player. I had about the same kill times doing offline gh and caravan.

However, I am also pretty sure that it scales to 2.5 players if you are online but playing solo. I tried once when nobody joined, and the monster took forever to kill.

monsters don't scale.

Overall defense is a set percentage that changes depending on the quest. That’s why “powered up” quests have monsters that have not only more HP, but are tougher to break parts as well (if it was just HP then there would be no difference, after all!). For generality sake, assume that:
Village: 100%
Low Rank: 85-95%
High Rank: 75-85%
High guild/event: 70%
Yeah, so if you do the same quest in the online part of the game solo, you are battling a monster that is about 25% higher defense, they do this because you’ll typically be online with other players.
Thanks guys.

The mention of events specifically. I tried to do the fight two Rathalos event and that thing just wouldn't die.
 

Rawk Hawk

Member
Unlocked the Caravaneer's Challenge over the weekend, given it a couple tries... Needless to say, that one is brutal. I even brought multiple farcaster combos and smoke bombs, still couldn't avoid being spotted by both at some point.

Outside of not being seen by both monsters in a multiple monsters arena setting, are there any other tips for dealing with two at once that maybe I'm missing? Only have about 200 hours in the MH series between 3U and 4U, so still relatively new.
 

tuffy

Member
man, fuck these distorted fragments. I need 12 more
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I know that feeling. I got very fast at running expeditions and started taking smoke bombs so I could mine nodes while avoiding the monsters altogether.

As a nice side-effect, I also wound up with a ton of caravan points by the time I was done.
 

redcrayon

Member
Unlocked the Caravaneer's Challenge over the weekend, given it a couple tries... Needless to say, that one is brutal. I even brought multiple farcaster combos and smoke bombs, still couldn't avoid being spotted by both at some point.

Outside of not being seen by both monsters in a multiple monsters arena setting, are there any other tips for dealing with two at once that maybe I'm missing? Only have about 200 hours in the MH series between 3U and 4U, so still relatively new.
I still haven't beaten it, but I am doing much better in multiple arena fights since I started consuming mega dash juice (stops stamina reduction) so I could stay mobile and block/dodge until an opening appeared. You're right, taking in the tools to make farcasters is good, I do that with every tough battle where I'm unlikely to have a chance to escape and recover from multiple blights/poison/bleed/health/stamina/sharpen etc. Especially with fast and flying monsters.

Having a good affinity so I stagger them more helps, but I guess that's pretty generic 'hit them harder!' advice! :D
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
So, this is my 2nd monster hunter. But I'm cruising thru LR. Time is limited for gaming but I'm clearing these guys in 15 minutes, solo.

That means I'm just getting better at this and not that LR on this game is terribly easy, correct? I'm using GS but I keep wondering if the weapons are overpowered as hell or I'm just recognizing things/movements/habits quicker this time around. Feels Good man. But I can't imagine 4 players, who know what they are doing. I should just shut up until I hit G rank. Damn kids. Always need food or to go to sleep.

Similar experiences where you feel real good during your second MH game?
 

tuffy

Member
Similar experiences where you feel real good during your second MH game?
Though I think low rank has gotten a little easier than before, just knowing what to do and how the fights work beforehand makes a huge difference. Though there's plenty of challenges as the game goes on, I've yet to find something that feels insurmountable. There's always some way to tackle whatever the game throws at me just by changing tactics, bringing in a new skill, swapping weapons, or whatever. I've done it before, after all.
 

Anura

Member
So, this is my 2nd monster hunter. But I'm cruising thru LR. Time is limited for gaming but I'm clearing these guys in 15 minutes, solo.

That means I'm just getting better at this and not that LR on this game is terribly easy, correct? I'm using GS but I keep wondering if the weapons are overpowered as hell or I'm just recognizing things/movements/habits quicker this time around. Feels Good man. But I can't imagine 4 players, who know what they are doing. I should just shut up until I hit G rank. Damn kids. Always need food or to go to sleep.

Similar experiences where you feel real good during your second MH game?

Yeah, once you have an idea of what you're doing you can blow through low rank. I was getting times of about 5-9 minutes for most caravan LR quests.
 
Does the GM show up in story or guild quests? I've got lots of armor pieces for him from helping other players and wanna know when I'll be able to craft with them
 

Pila

Member
I wish somebody had told me sooner that Palicos get Deviljho gear! They look funny with their mini championship belt.

Ahah neat, my fella will get that too.

When are we getting the Megaman stuff anyway? I'll make it and then I'll cry :( why Capcom.
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
Dammit, game. Giving me a Mohran quest that unlocks new Wycoon trades right after I clear the Mohran urgent. :lol Outside of the first time (due to the spectacle of the whole thing), Mohran isn't fun to fight with a party, and it's even worse solo. I don't want to do it again, haha.
 

Yrael

Member
I did an advanced HR6 quest earlier with one other high rank player and two G rank players.

It was the two G rank players who kept fainting/coming close to fainting.

How.

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Anyway, I'm HR7 now, woo. I also fainted though for the first time online...during an Akantor fight. :( The damage it is capable of inflicting took me completely by surprise, and the fact that it can melt armour - I was lulled into complacency by its slowness! I don't think I'll make that mistake again.
 

redcrayon

Member
I did an advanced HR6 quest earlier with one other high rank player and two G rank players.

It was the two G rank players who kept fainting/coming close to fainting.

How.

Loki-At-Loss-For-Words-In-The-Avengers-Gif.gif


Anyway, I'm HR7 now, woo. I also fainted though for the first time online...during an Akantor fight. :( The damage it is capable of inflicting took me completely by surprise, and the fact that it can melt armour - I was lulled into complacency by its slowness! I don't think I'll make that mistake again.
G rank doesn't necessarily mean they have G-rank gear yet- it's possible they could have only done a handful more key quests than you, I was wandering around G1 with high rank gear for ages before settling on a new set of kit. Having said that, a lot of people seem to be rushing to reach the endgame, doing as few quests as possible, so they can start grinding for the best kit while the online is popular (and it's easy to find a hunting party for the exact quest you want). It means they have ended up woefully underequipped for the last stretch. It's obvious which people haven't touched single player either, or bothered to upgrade their food options.

I played a game at lunchtime, and clearly two of the team were losing two-thirds of their health to each hit, in blademaster armour, despite being G1 players. I had a look at their gear afterwards and they hadn't even upgraded it with armour spheres. Players new to monster hunter are missing a lot by not even trying the caravan campaign.
 

Yrael

Member
G rank doesn't necessarily mean they have G-rank gear yet- it's possible they could have only done a handful more key quests than you, I was wandering around G1 with high rank gear for ages before settling on a new set of kit. Having said that, a lot of people seem to be rushing to reach the endgame and start grinding for the best kit while the online is popular (and it's easy to find a hunting party for the exact quest you want, and have ended up woefully underequipped for the last stretch. It's obvious which people haven't touched single player either, or bothered to upgrade their food options.

True. One was G1 and the other was G2, I think.

At this point I'm going to finish off the rest of the advanced 6* caravan quests, which have just opened up for me now that I've reached this level of the online game. I think they should be good preparation, since they include Teostra and Rajang.
 

redcrayon

Member
True. One was G1 and the other was G2, I think.

At this point I'm going to finish off the rest of the advanced 6* caravan quests, which have just opened up for me now that I've reached this level of the online game. I think they should be good preparation, since they include Teostra and Rajang.
Good stuff. Teostra online can be a nightmare when players are encountering it for the first time, as the explosions ignore armour. I think he managed to triple cart a team with one explosion as they all piled in (despite being low on health and with the bomb status effect) in one of my games!

Reminds me of one game in Tri where my team encountered Deviljho for the first time, and his dragon breath double-carted two of us, before his shoulder charge attack finished off the desperately fleeing survivor.

I love the way monster hunter likes to remind you to be careful when encountering something new.
 
I'm absolutely loving this game

Thinking of switching to Longsword just because the one made of Gore Magala parts looks so awesome :p


Let a Testsucabra escape during an Expedition because I was too focussed on breaking its tusks, so wasn't doing enough damage quickly enough :(
 

PrankT

Member
Is there a worse feeling than getting combo'ed by a monster and you're thinking "sweet he going after someone else so I can heal," and then realizing you're stunned and of course the monster comes back and swallows your soul?
 

brau

Member
Is there a worse feeling than getting combo'ed by a monster and you're thinking "sweet he going after someone else so I can heal," and then realizing you're stunned and of course the monster comes back and swallows your soul?

I hate when that happens. But worse, is getting combo to stun while you are poisoned and then cart because of the poison. :(
 

HawthorneKitty

Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Dammit, game. Giving me a Mohran quest that unlocks new Wycoon trades right after I clear the Mohran urgent. :lol Outside of the first time (due to the spectacle of the whole thing), Mohran isn't fun to fight with a party, and it's even worse solo. I don't want to do it again, haha.
Mohran is fun with a party doe...
 

Shengar

Member
YEAH. He's tough, and just doesn't seem to want to go down. Definitely the hardest of the tigrex family.
You canct really describe Molten Tigrex that since it have very low HP, most likely balancing decision by Capcom. What makes the fight felt long is because one hit will punish player greatly. It had all Tigrex moves, and big body makes it a deadly combination so most player will be running around looking for opening while keeping their ass safe. A Molten Tigrex down pretty quick if the team have lots of disable, but even if that happened I bet not all body part broken unless there is someone with Partbreaker.

This is very unlike Lucent Nargacuga that really tough to go down. In my experience, people attacked it more frequently since it gives more opening with less risk. But then, most fight could last to between 8 ir 15 minutes, even when the party used trapper. Also when it dies, most of the time all of it body part usually broken.
 
Is there a worse feeling than getting combo'ed by a monster and you're thinking "sweet he going after someone else so I can heal," and then realizing you're stunned and of course the monster comes back and swallows your soul?

Ugh, yeah, that's frustrating.

1st hit: Aw man, I was out of position and he got me, my bad.
2nd hit: Oh, I guess he's gonna hit me again instead of someone else while I'm standing up. At least I have a little HP left and can use a mega p..
3rd hit: You've gotta be kidding me.
 
I'm at Guild HR4 and Caravan 7. At what point should I work on Expeditions and Guild Quests? Since they're not directly linked with progression, it feels like kind of a waste unless I have an urgent that forces me to do it.

(I also may have recently had a bad experience where a Yian Garuaga just -blam-ing left out of nowhere after i'd trounced him.)
 

Anura

Member
You canct really describe Molten Tigrex that since it have very low HP, most likely balancing decision by Capcom. What makes the fight felt long is because one hit will punish player greatly. It had all Tigrex moves, and big body makes it a deadly combination so most player will be running around looking for opening while keeping their ass safe. A Molten Tigrex down pretty quick if the team have lots of disable, but even if that happened I bet not all body part broken unless there is someone with Partbreaker.

This is very unlike Lucent Nargacuga that really tough to go down. In my experience, people attacked it more frequently since it gives more opening with less risk. But then, most fight could last to between 8 ir 15 minutes, even when the party used trapper. Also when it dies, most of the time all of it body part usually broken.

Yeah, molten tiggy always goes down fast in a somewhat decent group. Most hints I've done with groups usually end in under five minutes, especially if I or somebody else guns.
 
I really need to get myself some Tetsucabra S armor for my Great Sword use. The extra defense, health and sharpening is damn awesome. Also, my amulet gives me +11 Gathering, so it balances out the crap Tetsucabra S does with Gathering. The only downside is the lack of slots.

Oh yeah, I'm on HR5 right now... and I haven't even gotten that far in story... I'm stuck at 3... 4?
 

PrankT

Member
Yeah, molten tiggy always goes down fast in a somewhat decent group. Most hints I've done with groups usually end in under five minutes, especially if I or somebody else guns.
Having a projectile user in any group is so awesome. They get monsters out of apex fast and constantly apply status affects because they can just keep shooting them. So underrated.
 

Shengar

Member
Having a projectile user in any group is so awesome. They get monsters out of apex fast and constantly apply status affects because they can just keep shooting them. So underrated.
I'll never bring Lance ever again to apex hunting. Vayu Sedition will be my weapon that bring down apex monsters the most.
 
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