Most Viewed Trailers After 24 Hours from Yesterday's PlayStation Showcase on YouTube: Gow Ragnarok (10+ million), Spider-man 2 (9+ Million), etc

EDMIX said:
Well....by the numbers alone, MOST PS fans never cared about GT, no GT has EVER moved 100 million units.....

You also need to factor that GT Sport is different from the main GT series and will see less sales then the standard GT, I expect GT to move monster units as I'm buying it day 1 for that return of those classic modes and I expect many more will too.

With it being cross gen, its moving some monster numbers if you consider no GT has ever actually done such a thing. I don't know if we'll see those old school PS2 numbers as thats the height of the series, but who knows, maybe a whole new base of consumers pick up GT
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Exactly. I'm pretty sure GT still is the most popular Racing franchise, sales wise and playtime wise

2019 data:

www.gtplanet.net

Gran Turismo Sport Has Sold an Estimated 8 Million Copies

A recent report from a hedge fund has suggested a new sales figure for Polyphony Digital's Gran Turismo Sport. It's a big one too, with the copy total coming in at an estimated 8 million. That headline figure comes about midway through a massive 102-page document called "A Stronger Sony". In it,
www.gtplanet.net www.gtplanet.net

2021 data:

www.keengamer.com

GT Sport Hits 9.5 Million Users, a 75% Increase in Comparison to Previous Title

The most popular racing game on Playstation 5, GT Sport, has 9.5 million players head of Polyphony Digital confirms. It's a significant improvement in sales compared to the previous title, however, Forza Horizon 4 still outsold GT Sport long time ago.
www.keengamer.com www.keengamer.com
 
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Views mean nothing for these kind of games. these games will sell the same amount views or not, the names alone is enough. Plus the option is this or covid 19 shit.
 
strange headache said:
So for Xbox he only combined the official and developer channels but for PlayStation he is including every major gaming channel (whatever these may be)?



I know what he said and he is being rather deceptive really. Lots of people in this thread alone thought these were the PlayStation metrics alone.

If I'd combine enough channels without saying which ones I could create any metric I wanted. Also combining views like that is idiotic since there's no way of knowing how much overlap there is between these channels. What's even worse, he seems to be changing his methodology at will, creating even more confusion.
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Does it even matter?
The PlayStation numbers alone are high. Which makes the OP's point still valid. The thirst for these games are real, it's only a few on the Forum trying to say otherwise.
 
JimRyanGOAT said:
Two people have linked me this, dunno if I can trust that link tho
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Gran Turismo Sport sales breakdown:

France – 174,948 (retail)[43]
Germany – 200,000[70]
Japan – 198,985 (retail)[71]
Spain – 85,000[72]
United Kingdom – 484,833[46]

This is your 1.something M number, from 2017.
 
Mr Moose said:
Gran Turismo Sport sales breakdown:

France – 174,948 (retail)[43]
Germany – 200,000[70]
Japan – 198,985 (retail)[71]
Spain – 85,000[72]
United Kingdom – 484,833[46]

This is your 1.something M number, from 2017.
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By contrast would you happen to have the most recent Forzas sales numbers?
 
Spidey is likely around 25 million (miles sold nearly 7 m to date, so the UE is added into that)
I know Unch is like 16 M +
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GOW is like near 20
Horizon is like 11 M +

gt sports is prob near 9 M .

I totally expect spidey to get to 30-35 milion before spidey 2 considering it is still a top selling game right now.
 
Magnific0giganticus said:
Exactly. I'm pretty sure GT still is the most popular Racing franchise, sales wise and playtime wise

2019 data:

www.gtplanet.net

Gran Turismo Sport Has Sold an Estimated 8 Million Copies

A recent report from a hedge fund has suggested a new sales figure for Polyphony Digital's Gran Turismo Sport. It's a big one too, with the copy total coming in at an estimated 8 million. That headline figure comes about midway through a massive 102-page document called "A Stronger Sony". In it,
www.gtplanet.net www.gtplanet.net

2021 data:

www.keengamer.com

GT Sport Hits 9.5 Million Users, a 75% Increase in Comparison to Previous Title

The most popular racing game on Playstation 5, GT Sport, has 9.5 million players head of Polyphony Digital confirms. It's a significant improvement in sales compared to the previous title, however, Forza Horizon 4 still outsold GT Sport long time ago.
www.keengamer.com www.keengamer.com
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Users!=Sales. Also that estimated sales numbers were based on number of players.
 
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God of War is now a third-person movie game with an R rated low budget Disney tier story, shitty over the shoulder camera placement, and shitty walking and talking segments.

Spiderman which is a super hero game has no business being a PS5 exclusive. No superhero game has business being exclusive to any platform.
 
ZehDon said:
No real surprise there; GOWR is going to be a fucking juggernaut at launch.

GT7 is showing signs that the series' best days are likely behind it. It's an incredibly stagnant series at this point. Sad, given that it used to be one of the platform's biggest sellers.
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They really let Forza eat their lunch. This is a genre that Sony used to own, but now racing is one of the few genres where it's better to get an Xbox.

Not sure where the wheels really started to come off. GT6 on PS3 instead of PS4? And why exactly does GT Sport have so few cars?
 
Imru' al-Qays said:
They really let Forza eat their lunch. This is a genre that Sony used to own, but now racing is one of the few genres where it's better to get an Xbox.

Not sure where the wheels really started to come off. GT6 on PS3 instead of PS4? And why exactly does GT Sport have so few cars?
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Actually, I think you nailed it. GT5 was decent enough, but GT4 is legitimately one of the greatest games of all time, so it's a tough act to follow. With GT6, it was their opportunity to come out swinging and let Forza know they weren't going to lie down.... and they tied it to very old hardware and killed its potential. It ended up feeling pretty low effort to me, more akin to GT5.5. I didn't bother with GT Sport after that. Forza 6 was just ok to me, but I thought 7 was pretty good, if clearly held back by the aging hardware. Forza Motorsport on Series X has basically no contest at this point; next-gen only, biggest change up in series history, and Turn10 are taking their time. As long as they don't turn it into NFS, I can't see how GT stands a chance.
 
GalacticPeddler said:
God of War is now a third-person movie game with an R rated low budget Disney tier story, shitty over the shoulder camera placement, and shitty walking and talking segments.

Spiderman which is a super hero game has no business being a PS5 exclusive. No superhero game has business being exclusive to any platform.
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Because superheros are like what, oxygen to you? Lol
 
pratyush said:
Or maybe you are overthinking it. Maybe he realised people asked for entire numberlast so this he did it.
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Then why doesn't he say so? Also, why doesn't he say which channels he combined?
Unless of course, he just wants to console war or be a twitter shill.

As it stands these metrics are frikkin' useless, all they amount to are "popular game console generates lots of views".
 
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Imru' al-Qays said:
And why exactly does GT Sport have so few cars?
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GT6's massive car list was only because the vast majority of the cars were literally from the PS2 games (much lower quality, no interior etc.) For GT Sport, they elected to get rid of all their cars and rescan all of them at (apparently) 8K quality so that they'd be future proofed for future generations
 
yurinka said:
Bu bu but look at the Japanese top 30 physical game sales guys, Sony is doomed! And look at that random Gamepass indie nobody cares! #FireJimRyan


P.S.: As a reference, this is the Xbox channel sorting their videoss by 'most popular' (so by views), in the whole channel there are only 4 videos with more views than the GoWR one:

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Weird to see that more people have seen a fridge being revealed than a next gen console announcement.
 
NewChoppa said:
GT6's massive car list was only because the vast majority of the cars were literally from the PS2 games (much lower quality, no interior etc.) For GT Sport, they elected to get rid of all their cars and rescan all of them at (apparently) 8K quality so that they'd be future proofed for future generations
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GT Sport has 327 cars and Forza 7, released the same year, has 700. I understand having fewer cars than GT6, but having less than half as many as your chief competitor is a sign something's up
 
Sony's partnership with Disney is paying off big time. All this viral hype echoing days later across social media I think has solidified PS5 as THE console to get from the mainstream. Spider man, a beloved Star Wars game, and Wolverine as exclusives. Call of duty, Fortnite, FIFA and GTA marketing deals. Sony is also targeting is core demographic with God of war, horizon, gran turismo and timed exclusive with final fantasy and some other third party games. Sony has tapped into zeitgeist of mainstream normies and their core demographic at the same time. Imagine if disney makes a knights of the old republic movie or tv show to tie into the release of the game? In terms of getting attention and bringing all attention back to ps5 after multiple xbox shows, this was a knockout punch, even if the pacing of the show was questionable with that lack luster middle of it.

And the craziest part, theres still alot left that we dont know what their doing.
 
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yurinka said:
Bu bu but look at the Japanese top 30 physical game sales guys, Sony is doomed! And look at that random Gamepass indie nobody cares! #FireJimRyan


P.S.: As a reference, this is the Xbox channel sorting their videoss by 'most popular' (so by views), in the whole channel there are only 4 videos with more views than the GoWR one:

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Well UK physical sales numbers have been used to indicate Xbox's days are numbered so at least there is some consistency. I suppose the big difference is that the UK isn't the Xbox's home territory. Either way physical sales are not a useful metric of a platforms success.

I did see you bring up Xbox though and it again shows there are clearly different standards when comparing the platforms. One gets an aggregate of all major video channels Xbox just gets its main channel and people are tying to reach some conclusion based on that. No way that would have skewed results right?
strange headache said:
Then why doesn't he say so? Also, why doesn't he say which channels he combined?
Unless of course, he just wants to console war or be a twitter shill.

As it stands these metrics are frikkin' useless, all they amount to are "popular game console generates lots of views".
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You've made the most interesting point here. The ways the numbers are reported is odd. The funny thing is Sony doesn't need help with inaccurate reporting to be successful. Just use a standard metric the PlayStation will be fine regardless.
 
DarkMage619 said:
Well UK physical sales numbers have been used to indicate Xbox's days are numbered so at least there is some consistency. I suppose the big difference is that the UK isn't the Xbox's home territory. Either way physical sales are not a useful metric of a platforms success.
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At least for Sony, over 70% of game sales are digital, so the top few dozen physical sales ranking for a single country isn't very relevant. Since their main revenue source is to software, maybe the more meaningful available source to compare is worldide software revenue. Or if we also add hardare and other sources, the total worldwide revenue from their gaming divisions.

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I did see you bring up Xbox though and it again shows there are clearly different standards when comparing the platforms. One gets an aggregate of all major video channels Xbox just gets its main channel and people are tying to reach some conclusion based on that. No way that would have skewed results right?
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No, the standards are the same: youtube views.

At first I understood the OP tweet was only counting the views in the main PS account so I shown the Xbox main account to compare, but as someone else shown the OP numbers also includes other accounts (I assume the regional ones they have from some countries or regions, or maybe even the reuploaded ones to the gaming media outlets accounts too). So obviously isn't fair to compare the twiiter numbers to the Xbox main account only numbers. It should be main account vs main account only. Or aggregated vs aggregated numbers.
 
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GalacticPeddler said:
God of War is now a third-person movie game with an R rated low budget Disney tier story, shitty over the shoulder camera placement, and shitty walking and talking segments.

Spiderman which is a super hero game has no business being a PS5 exclusive. No superhero game has business being exclusive to any platform.
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GalacticPeddler said:
God of War is now a third-person movie game with an R rated low budget Disney tier story, shitty over the shoulder camera placement, and shitty walking and talking segments.

Spiderman which is a super hero game has no business being a PS5 exclusive. No superhero game has business being exclusive to any platform.
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HAHAAHAH what a shit take. I aplaud you sir.
 
GalacticPeddler said:
God of War is now a third-person movie game with an R rated low budget Disney tier story, shitty over the shoulder camera placement, and shitty walking and talking segments.

Spiderman which is a super hero game has no business being a PS5 exclusive. No superhero game has business being exclusive to any platform.
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interview crying GIF
 
Bernd Lauert said:
Console warring over YouTube clicks 🤭 we live in desperate times.
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I know you aren't the guy with NeoGAFs best avatar (fat Aloy). No way in hell you swapped that out for a generic Forspoken avatar. I got to be confusing you with someone else.

You're Chris Gainesing us! Change it back!
 
Imru' al-Qays said:
GT Sport has 327 cars and Forza 7, released the same year, has 700. I understand having fewer cars than GT6, but having less than half as many as your chief competitor is a sign something's up
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I think it's probably a case of Forza/T10/Playground rescanning their cars sooner than PD got around to it. Forza 5 was criticised for having a considerably smaller car list than both Forza 4 and GT6 back in 2013 (cars rescanned for the same reason as GT Sport), while GT was still releasing cars at PS3 level quality back when the PS4/XBO had already come out.

At this point, I doubt GT will be known for having an absurdly large car list again, though I guess it's a blessing in disguise seeing as though hundreds of cars aren't duplicates or PS2 models anymore.
 
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strange headache said:
That's totally dishonest since he doesn't mention that and neither does he indicate which channels are being combined (especially if the combined channels together account for far more views than the PlayStation channel alone). What's even worse is that these combined views often get compared to the Xbox channel alone, since so many people are not aware of this.

So yeah, that's a pretty shady metric right there.
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This is totally normal, that's how Movie trailer views are counted too. You don't just use one fucking official channel in this day and age.
 
Its a no brainer that Playstation's flagship title had the most views.

If anyone expected otherwise, idk what to tell you lol.

More interested in seeing Wolverine since we already know know GoW and Spider-Man are basically more of the same. I just hope we don't have to boat as much in GoW 2.
 
Javthusiast said:
This is totally normal, that's how Movie trailer views are counted too. You don't just use one fucking official channel in this day and age.
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The issue is the wildly different methodology used to generate these numbers and the lack of information on how they were compiled.

By the way, if we compare the official Xbox and PlayStation channels we can see that the numbers are actually pretty comparable.

strange headache said:
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skit_data said:
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Also why not use some official tools in order to compare YouTube metrics instead of relying on random twitter users?

Like google trends for example:

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Manually counting the views on different YouTube channels that get selected differently each time is a whole lot dumber than just taking a look at the official channels or using specific metric tools.
 
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A lot of people had to do a second and third take on that GOW trailer… lol

Okay I'll stop making of it now .. I just finished the first one and will definitely get the second 👍
 
strange headache said:
The issue is the wildly different methodology used to generate these numbers and the lack of information on how they were compiled.

By the way, if we compare the official Xbox and PlayStation channels we can see that the numbers are actually pretty comparable.





Also why not use some official tools in order to compare YouTube metrics instead of relying on random twitter users?

Like google trends for example:

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Manually counting the views on different YouTube channels that get selected differently each time is a whole lot dumber than just taking a look at the official channels or using specific metric tools.
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Battlefield has 634k views on Xbox channel.
Fridge has 4.5M.
They are also 2+ months old, not 2 days.

I don't know many people who spell Spider-Man correctly.
 
strange headache said:
The issue is the wildly different methodology used to generate these numbers and the lack of information on how they were compiled.

By the way, if we compare the official Xbox and PlayStation channels we can see that the numbers are actually pretty comparable.
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Compared to what? The difference is abysmal. And Halo was the worst of them all? Wow talk about a dead franchise. 1 measly million views a piece doesn't bode well for them...beaten by a mini fridge?? Buahahhaha. I'm sorry, I just...bwahahhaa!!!

Put them all in the cooler!🤣
 
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