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The struggle is his limbs disintegrate on use

The struggle is that he got a quirk, but is still basically 15 years behind everyone else in terms of controlling it, which results in his body getting wrecked beyond hope everytime he uses it.

I don't disagree but I mean we're like 5 eps in and he has already managed to control to an impressive extent. From obliterating his arm to focusing it on a single point of his hand and not even mangling that finger it seemed.

At this trajectory he will be a god by mid- second season. Again though, I know nothing about the manga and how long it is and what happens or anything else so I'm probably wrong. Guess I'll see.

 

[cntr]

Trust us, we wouldn't be praising this series so much if it was just random power-ups. Deku has a long road ahead of him.

 

[Jintor]

i just hope the anime keeps going HAM on how bad exactly that shit gets.

it's not boku no hero without deku basically exploding his own limbs and feeling it

 

[Kickz]

I wish they spent more time on other characters as well, instead of Deku's victory of the week. But its early I guess

 

[cntr]

from ep 5

 

[Jintor]

aww man next week gonna be costume week

 

[Mumei]

I'd somehow never seen this topic until just now, but I'm trying the first episode. I hope I like it!

 

[SalvaPot]

from ep 5

I want the other characters to run with him.

 

[Trojita]

I don't disagree but I mean we're like 5 eps in and he has already managed to control to an impressive extent. From obliterating his arm to focusing it on a single point of his hand and not even mangling that finger it seemed.

At this trajectory he will be a god by mid- second season. Again though, I know nothing about the manga and how long it is and what happens or anything else so I'm probably wrong. Guess I'll see.

Your comprehension is wrong. That shit broke.

He's a self breaking glass canon.

 

[Frozenprince]

I agree that it wouldn't really work but it doesn't change that it makes me less into the current premise as it is right now.

I like what I've seen but I'm not super into it. And I'm a sucker for shounen so it's weird. Kid has a pretty baller power that he just got and is already displaying impressive feats and his mentor is the most famous hero in the world...? Not relating to #thestruggle here but it's all still entertaining enough.

Him being Batman doesn't work because Batman has superpowers. He's rich beyond measure and one of the smartest people on earth.

Deku is literally just a 15 year old boy with no combat training or experience. Even giving him some, he wouldn't be able to stand on his own, ESPECIALLY against enemies later on. And he doesn't have the resources to build an arsenal of anti-villain gear that a character like Batman or Green Arrow does.

If anything, this power humanizes him more than ever because now he can stand with these people who can do amazing things.

But only for one moment.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Him being Batman doesn't work because Batman has superpowers. He's rich beyond measure and one of the smartest people on earth.

Deku is literally just a 15 year old boy with no combat training or experience. Even giving him some, he wouldn't be able to stand on his own, ESPECIALLY against enemies later on. And he doesn't have the resources to build an arsenal of anti-villain gear that a character like Batman or Green Arrow does.

If anything, this power humanizes him more than ever because now he can stand with these people who can do amazing things.

But only for one moment.

I don't see why we're comparing it to Batman. The fact that the protagonist here has been given a Quirk but can't really control it and is behind everyone doesn't also mean that a premise like this but the protagonist going quirkless wouldn't be possible. The story would probably have to be radically different than this one.

 

[Frozenprince]

Because if he's going to be a hero without a Quirk he needs to be Batman. Smarter than everybody else and knowing 10-20 different combat styles to a mastery level or higher.

He'd have to basically have superpowers with them calling them superpowers.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Because if he's going to be a hero without a Quirk he needs to be Batman. Smarter than everybody else and knowing 10-20 different combat styles to a mastery level or higher.

He'd have to basically have superpowers with them calling them superpowers.

Hm, well if the setup was to directly confront powerful enemies and physically incredible tasks, I find it hard to imagine how that could be pulled off. Again, I think it would have to be a totally different kind of super hero story.

 

[Belfast]

I don't disagree but I mean we're like 5 eps in and he has already managed to control to an impressive extent. From obliterating his arm to focusing it on a single point of his hand and not even mangling that finger it seemed.

At this trajectory he will be a god by mid- second season. Again though, I know nothing about the manga and how long it is and what happens or anything else so I'm probably wrong. Guess I'll see.

Without giving too much away, it is currently indicated within the manga (at chapter 89) that Deku still only commands a very small percentage of his potential maximum power.

On top of that, as others have indicated, there are many heroes (including pros and some of his classmates) who already have a higher command of their own powers than most do.

It'll take awhile for the show to get there, but there shouldn't be any problem with the main character's growth.

 

[Frozenprince]

Hm, well if the setup was to directly confront powerful enemies and physically incredible tasks, I find it hard to imagine how that could be pulled off. Again, I think it would have to be a totally different kind of super hero story.

And it was.

If you wanted a different kind of superhero story than the "Quirk/Quirkless" dynamic at the beginning and his idolization of All Might need to be completely altered to the point where it's not MHA anymore.

In the context of the Deku character we're introduced too in chapter 1/episode 1/2, that's the only workable route they could have taken a quirkless hero without making him a character through whom the story is told, rather than the actual protagonist.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

I caved due to people saying it's better than normal shounen and I'm super confused because this is super generic.

I will never believe their lies again.

 

[Trojita]

The original prototype of the manga was that he continued not having powers. A Shonen Jump editor afaik was the one who asked why Deku didn't have any powers and wouldn't it be more interesting if he gets a power?

The notebooks are a remnant of this earlier Deku. Prototype Deku was taking down powered people by analyzing their strengths and weaknesses. He was to be armed with a taser (lol). Who knows how he could have actually taken down some of the mid to heavier hitters.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

The original prototype of the manga was that he continued not having powers. A Shonen Jump editor afaik was the one who asked why Deku didn't have any powers and wouldn't it be more interesting if he gets a power?

The notebooks are a remnant of this earlier Deku. Prototype Deku was taking down powered people by analyzing their strengths and weaknesses. He was to be armed with a taser (lol). Who knows how he could have actually taken down some of the mid to heavier hitters.

Oh, is that so? That kind of makes sense, since that's what I thought it was leading towards. That and his battle against the slime monster made me think later obstacles would be tackled in the same way: he'd refer to his extensive knowledge of super heroes and historical battles, and adapt them in a more grounded, "human" way.

 

[Qvoth]

The original prototype of the manga was that he continued not having powers. A Shonen Jump editor afaik was the one who asked why Deku didn't have any powers and wouldn't it be more interesting if he gets a power?

The notebooks are a remnant of this earlier Deku. Prototype Deku was taking down powered people by analyzing their strengths and weaknesses. He was to be armed with a taser (lol). Who knows how he could have actually taken down some of the mid to heavier hitters.

Never seen the original one shot, but yeah I don't think a shounen superhero manga can work with a powerless main character

 

[Mr. X]

Never seen the original one shot, but yeah I don't think a shounen superhero manga can work with a powerless main character

It would just be Shonen Batman

 

[Subpar Spatula]

It would just be Shonen Batman

You just can't make him 15 and it'll be fine. This show would be 1000x more appealing if it wasn't kids.

God dammit Japan.

 

[Trojita]

Oh, is that so? That kind of makes sense, since that's what I thought it was leading towards. That and his battle against the slime monster made me think later obstacles would be tackled in the same way: he'd refer to his extensive knowledge of super heroes and historical battles, and adapt them in a more grounded, "human" way.

Yeah.

Never seen the original one shot, but yeah I don't think a shounen superhero manga can work with a powerless main character

It wasn't the one shot but probably the name (prototype) that the author was submitting to the Shonen Jump editor.

Edit: He might have been depowered in the oneshot too apparently.

 

[Metaroo]

Just finished episode 5. I haven't read the manga but

Spoiler

he eventually goes swole-mode right?

I like the pacing so far. I get strong pre-Chunin exam Naruto vibes.

 

[Trojita]

Just finished episode 5. I haven't read the manga but

Spoiler

he eventually goes swole-mode right?

I like the pacing so far. I get strong pre-Chunin exam Naruto vibes.

He's already

Spoiler

swole

after his training mang.

 

[Frozenprince]

You just can't make him 15 and it'll be fine. This show would be 1000x more appealing if it wasn't kids.

God dammit Japan.

They stop acting like kids reaaaaaaaaaaal quick.

Spoiler

They see and experience some fucked up shit pretty damn early

 

[KonradLaw]

Never seen the original one shot, but yeah I don't think a shounen superhero manga can work with a powerless main character

It could. Just like Heavy Object is shounen story about mech battles where the main heroes have no mechs.

But yeah, it;s probably for the best. A straight up superhero origin story is something more rare in shounen format that a story about genius using his intellect to destroy enemies.

 

[vareon]

You just can't make him 15 and it'll be fine. This show would be 1000x more appealing if it wasn't kids.

God dammit Japan.

It's absolutely important that it was kids. This is the positive, upbeat coming-of-age story of today's generation. It's what One Piece, Naruto, etc started before they get bogged down by their own baggage.

 

[cntr]

You just can't make him 15 and it'll be fine. This show would be 1000x more appealing if it wasn't kids.

God dammit Japan.

If you're curious -- in Japan, "serious adult life" begins when you finish high school, and so manga have high schoolers because that's the part of life where you grow up and are unrestrained.

If that seems silly, in the Anglophone world, you become a full adult when you finish college. So how many shows you know where the main characters are around college age?

 

[Jintor]

nah man japan college is where you go to play. high school is where you suffer nervous breakdowns cos you gotta do those entrance exams to get into uni.

 

[cntr]

heh, fair point

 

[Klyka]

I wish they spent more time on other characters as well, instead of Deku's victory of the week. But its early I guess

It's a 1 to 1 from the Manga, We'll get into the other characters later.

Remember, this is his first day at school and instead of getting to know his classmates they are immediately thrown into a trial

 

[BassForever]

I caved due to people saying it's better than normal shounen and I'm super confused because this is super generic.

I will never believe their lies again.

They hype is honestly for stuff that mostly won't be animated with this season :| At this point in the manga it was more "this has a lot of potential to be something special". Hype culture has created a backlash for this series as you and Shard have clearly demonstrated.

 

[Betty]

They hype is honestly for stuff that mostly won't be animated with this season :| At this point in the manga it was more "this has a lot of potential to be something special". Hype culture has created a backlash for this series as you and Shard have clearly demonstrated.

By this point and earlier in One Punch Man's anime though it was going to great places.

I like this show but I wish it was 30 episodes or something than 12.

 

[Jintor]

OPM was set up and paced differently though - and there's not going to be enough material for a second season anytime soon (unless they start overtaking Murata and just start directly adapting ONE). MHA seems to be set up as a long-runner - 54 or more episodes or something most likely, depending on popularity.

 

[Mumei]

I watched the first four episodes last night. I enjoyed them, though when the OP said "smart shounen protagonist" I suppose I was expecting a bit smarter than this.

Then again, these things are relative and considering the usual bar...

 

[Jintor]

title is overstated, but deku is, yes, comparatively smart to most generic shonen protags. (though not all... edward elric or maka would probably be around his tier)

 

[Klyka]

I watched the first four episodes last night. I enjoyed them, though when the OP said "smart shounen protagonist" I suppose I was expecting a bit smarter than this.

Then again, these things are relative and considering the usual bar...

You'll see more of him being smart and making plans and taking in people's weaknesses and strengths over the course of the series. His classmates actually know him as a guy who makes plans and such.

Most of it is sadly outside the current story the anime will portray

 

[cntr]

it's mostly due to the story starting out generic, tbh. People said the same things as the manga came out, way back.

 

[Meffer]

I watched the first four episodes last night. I enjoyed them, though when the OP said "smart shounen protagonist" I suppose I was expecting a bit smarter than this.

Then again, these things are relative and considering the usual bar...

He is smart and can think on the spot during chaotic moments but he's a pretty grounded character. So when he steps up he has genuinely badass moments.
Honestly if I named the OT I would've gone with PLUS ULTRA.

 

[Jigolo]

The title is dumb for sure

 

[Trojita]

The title is dumb for sure

Are people honestly expecting some Keikaku protagonist with everything magically falling into place in their hands?

 

[Jigolo]

Are people honestly expecting some Keikaku protagonist with everything magically falling into place in their hands?

Idk what anime viewers were expecting. I've been reading the manga since the beginning and think the title is dumb

 

[Meffer]

Are people honestly expecting some Keikaku protagonist with everything magically falling into place in their hands?

I'm rather tired of that trope.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Deku's actually pretty smart. Not just for a Shonen protag, but in general. He's not super-smart (which generally just means that your plans work by author fiat) by any stretch, but clever. It's partly just his background, but his powers kind of force him to be.

 

[NHarmonic.]

The title was accurate, though. Deku is really smart for a shonen protagonist...

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Deku's actually pretty smart. Not just for a Shonen protag, but in general. He's not super-smart (which generally just means that your plans work by author fiat) by any stretch, but clever. It's partly just his background, but his powers kind of force him to be.

The title was accurate, though. Deku is really smart for a shonen protagonist...

I've read every chapter and have zero clue why you think this.

 

[Poodlestrike]

I've read every chapter and have zero clue why you think this.

Because he's generally the one coming up with the plans, and these plans are significantly more interesting and involved than "use the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP," which is about as complex as you can expect most shonen protags to get, unless they're specifically a Strategist type, in which case their abilities border on impossible.

 

[GoldCrusader]

I've read every chapter and have zero clue why you think this.

I mean lets take Deku and compare him to Naruto, Ichigo, Luffy, Hinata Shoyo, etc.

For a shonen protag he's smart. I just finished reading manga number 4 and it's even more true now.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Because he's generally the one coming up with the plans, and these plans are significantly more interesting and involved than "use the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP," which is about as complex as you can expect most shonen protags to get, unless they're specifically a Strategist type, in which case their abilities border on impossible.

I guess coming from Hunter x Hunter—where even the "dumbest" characters have quick thinking and elaborate tactics going for them—I'm not sure I find that would make it particularly stand out for me.

 

[Nightbird]

I guess coming from Hunter x Hunter—where even the "dumbest" characters have quick thinking and elaborate tactics going for them—I'm not sure I find that would make it particularly stand out for me.

HunterxHunter levels is an Borderline impossible bar to reach for a Shounen. something like that would stay long in the WSJ nowadays.