DrForester
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How does a Pony fighting evil away from Ponyville /Canterlot not fit in with this world?
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My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic Season 4 |OT| Twilight Princess Returns
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How does a Pony fighting evil away from Ponyville /Canterlot not fit in with this world?
wookieofdoom
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Exactly. It is fun to theorize and discuss possibilities, but when you start to believe that your head cannon should supersede what the creators of the damn show envisioned, it's time have your head checked. This isn't to say you should like everything the creators make, far from it, but holding onto your own ideas like they should be actual canon is ridiculous. I grew up with the original trilogy of Star Wars, and I had definitely had some preconceived notions of what the clone wars and Jedi were like before the Empire. The prequels shattered my head canon. But I didn't like those movies because they were terrible films with poor story telling, not because they didn't fit into how I envisioned the Jedi and Sith. They are George Lucas's creation, not mine. Ego, the creator of Slice of Life, actually gets that her fanfic comic is just that: a fanfic. I just wish some people had more common sense when it came to this stuff.
Eh, that's not the best comparison, because Lucas couldn't ever decide what he wanted and was always best with adult supervision. In other words, the universe presented in the original trilogy is the result of a number of people's collaboration (actors ad-libbing and changing lines included), while the prequels are Lucas by himself.
And Han shot first.
Nobodyspatzy
Member
Oh dear.. poor headcannon... oh well.. It is nice to see it slowly crumble and some freak out about it.. (makes me happy oddly)
..though I would love to be proven wrong that burros/donkeys are NOT lesser equines ;p
..though I would love to be proven wrong that burros/donkeys are NOT lesser equines ;p
DrForester
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Something abotu Castle-Mania was bothering me. Namely why Rarity would have Fluttershy come help her. While the two have their spa time, it seems a task ill suited to Fluttershy. Then it hit me.
Spike was unavailable because he was with Twilight. And Rarity would not ask Princess Twilight to help her with manual labor. Rainbow Dash and AJ were busy with their daring pony contest, and Pinkie was busy ringing that bell.
Fluttershy was very likely the very last resort for Rarity.
Spike was unavailable because he was with Twilight. And Rarity would not ask Princess Twilight to help her with manual labor. Rainbow Dash and AJ were busy with their daring pony contest, and Pinkie was busy ringing that bell.
Fluttershy was very likely the very last resort for Rarity.
DrForester
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At the same time, Rarity can get Rainbow Dash to model for her when needed.
That was my thinking. AJ probably would've kicked down entire walls trying to make the tapestries fall, and I can't even begin to imagine what Pinkie would've done.
Well, true, but who would you pick for a task requiring a delicate touch, like moving old fragile tapestries? Rainbow Dash or Fluttershy? Dash is a lot of things, but delicate isn't one of them. Fluttershy has that in spades, though. I mean, ideally, you'd want both since these things can be heavy, but Fluttershy is probably the one least likely to rip it. Even Rarity managed to tear one.
I'm 100% on board with pony Indiana Jones writing about her adventures and most ponies thinking the books are fiction; I think that's a pretty good concept that fits in just fine with what we've seen before.
That said, I think the execution of it here was a little off. Why does Daring Do dare to do what Daring Do does? Indiana Jones is an archaeologist; he does field work and happens to run into evil cults and Nazis and the like. Daring Do is... a hermit? Why is she the one doing battle with the monkey thing? If he's really got major evil plans with global implications, surely some of the Princesses should be aware of this. You can suppose that there's a lot more going on in the background here, but it would have been nice to have some line about the author being in the crown's employ or that they actually had to go halfway around the world to find her or something.
The other thing that really hurt the episode for me was the main cast's uselessness. Twilight in particular deserves a lot of blame here. This episode was notable for being (I think) the first time we saw significant pony-on-pony violence (changelings don't count and you know it). And the main cast just watched the fight. Now, I understand Fluttershy and Rarity not charging right in, but Applejack? Even Rainbow Dash. And in the episode just before this we saw Twilight (apparently effortlessly) immobilize four resisting ponies simultaneously, including freezing a pegasus in mid-flight and a pony running around in a panic. She really dropped the ball letting the thugs get away.
Edit: I haven't weighed in on Castle Mane-ia either, I guess. I'm less positive than some here, I suppose. Moment to moment it was fine, but I had issues with the premise. So basically the reverse of my take on the most recent episode. It was really hard to buy that suddenly everyone wanted to go to the castle that as far as we knew no one had even heard of before the season opener (it didn't seem to be the case that they wanted to go there /because/ they had all just found out about it, other than Twilight). Plus it's in the middle of the forest that ponies typically only go into for very good reason and which scares them.
That said, I think the execution of it here was a little off. Why does Daring Do dare to do what Daring Do does? Indiana Jones is an archaeologist; he does field work and happens to run into evil cults and Nazis and the like. Daring Do is... a hermit? Why is she the one doing battle with the monkey thing? If he's really got major evil plans with global implications, surely some of the Princesses should be aware of this. You can suppose that there's a lot more going on in the background here, but it would have been nice to have some line about the author being in the crown's employ or that they actually had to go halfway around the world to find her or something.
The other thing that really hurt the episode for me was the main cast's uselessness. Twilight in particular deserves a lot of blame here. This episode was notable for being (I think) the first time we saw significant pony-on-pony violence (changelings don't count and you know it). And the main cast just watched the fight. Now, I understand Fluttershy and Rarity not charging right in, but Applejack? Even Rainbow Dash. And in the episode just before this we saw Twilight (apparently effortlessly) immobilize four resisting ponies simultaneously, including freezing a pegasus in mid-flight and a pony running around in a panic. She really dropped the ball letting the thugs get away.
Edit: I haven't weighed in on Castle Mane-ia either, I guess. I'm less positive than some here, I suppose. Moment to moment it was fine, but I had issues with the premise. So basically the reverse of my take on the most recent episode. It was really hard to buy that suddenly everyone wanted to go to the castle that as far as we knew no one had even heard of before the season opener (it didn't seem to be the case that they wanted to go there /because/ they had all just found out about it, other than Twilight). Plus it's in the middle of the forest that ponies typically only go into for very good reason and which scares them.
wookieofdoom
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The castle was the one from the series pilot. Rainbow Dash mentions it was the castle where they confronted Nightmare Moon. I felt that all the ponies were pretty justified to go there. Twilight got a letter from Celestia to do research there, Dash and AJ were there on a dare and Rarity, who doesn't believe in ghosts, was there to restore ancient works of art and was more-or-less dragging Fluttershy with her. Ok, Rarity and Fluttershy's reason might be a bit of stretch, but they were awesome in this episode.
Boss Doggie
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I just realized that Pinkie Pie could benefit for being a unicorn and Fluttershy would work more as an "earth" pony.
Fluttershy was originally supposed to be an earth pony.
And Pinkie was planned to be a pegasus.
Myke Greywolf
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Well, they may be a bit justified in that they were looking through a window at somepony who they all thought, until a few seconds before, was a fictional character. I guess the feeling of that would be akin to watching a scene from the books unroll in front of their eyes, kind of like a movie, and the fact that it was actually happening didn't settle in until Fluttershy's concern took over.
They were awestruck, is all.
Jawmuncher
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First I have heard of this and now it all makes sense.
I love Fluttershy, but I can easily see her as an earth pony. For something with wings, she really doesn't seem to have an affinity for the sky
Jawmuncher
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Absolutely. Pinkie is already powerful enough without adding flight or magic to her repertoire, and Fluttershy as a Pegasus who prefers life on the ground is so much more poetic than if she were an Earth pony already.
DrForester
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Three days!
Yes! Been looking forward to that song ever since the animatic.
Same. It was my favorite part of the footage next to the Luna flashback.
Myke Greywolf
Ambassador of Goodwill
Promise me that you'll keep your cool if your preferred head canon is shattered.
DrForester
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If the show breaks it's own continuity and goes from showing on numerous occasions that she is capable of flight just lacking the skill from proper flight, and pulls the disabled card out of nowhere, I will be disappointed.
Could you point out some of these numerous occasions? I can't think of any. I remember some occasions of her hovering for brief periods, but I don't recall ever seeing her fly.
DrForester
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One of the best is in cutie Mark chronicles when we see her zipping along with the tips of her hooves on the ground as she talks about Rainbow Dash.
How is that flying?
DrForester
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It shows she has the capability to learn.
Myke Greywolf
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A limited demonstration does not invalidate a disability that limits (even though it doesn't totally eliminate) her ability to fly. It could simply mean that she is not able to sustain flight away from ground effect.
No, it really doesn't. All it shows that she can scoot along the ground for a short period of time, not unlike the way she does with her scooter. Nothing more.
Jawmuncher
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I'm gonna be really interested in the next episode to see how that turns out.
Playing off disabilities as some type of physical disabilities as some type of lesson in a world of magical ponies. Is a failure of a games designer.
I will say it before and I will say it again.
Its death in dragon ball Z, it means nothing. There is no value you in doing that, your world automatically takes whatever stakes out of that. Epically with steroid pony tiny wings existing.
Jawmuncher
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Was this posted?
Ponies Please (LP of papers please but with ponies)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brp-qzD07F4
Know it's not real but needless to say I want to play papers please now.
Ponies Please (LP of papers please but with ponies)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brp-qzD07F4
Know it's not real but needless to say I want to play papers please now.
Myke Greywolf
Ambassador of Goodwill
I would guess that these last two posts are better suited to the community thread.
Jawmuncher
Member
Ahhh ok.
This thread is better to actually post in, though.
Morgadeth
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I can't think of a better plot than Applejack kills Pinkie Pie and makes a pie out of her remains.
This is my design, y'all.
Rhomega Beta
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I bet it's about Pinkie wanting to help around the farm for whatever reason, but keeps screwing up because of her hyperactivity and airheadedness.
Nobodyspatzy
Member
Nah... too predictable. and not enough pain...
wait, we aren't talking wishes.. we are talking episodes
You guys are horrible
Nobodyspatzy
Member
I am not.. I am saying that would never happen.
Again, just because I don't like Pinkie.. doesn't mean I wish her harm on the show.
That would be silly!
edit: Besides.. I don't like Rarity more
Tenumi said:
I trust the writers to not screw this up. Whichever direction they go in, I've got faith it'll be well-considered and executed.
Jawmuncher
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I sure wouldn't mind that.