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My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic Season 4 |OT| Twilight Princess Returns

PaulloDEC

Member
The song has weak lyrics and was meh overall...until Rarity joins in that is, and then it's awesome.

It's a bit different to the usual MLP style, which I guess is both good and bad. I feel like most often the musical sequences in the show are songs that help tell the story, whereas this one was more like telling the story through song, if you see what I'm getting at. It felt like a bit of a flip in emphasis from music first and storytelling second to the reverse.

Variety is good though, so no complaints here.

That's the same song I just said was merely okay. Clearly, you don't agree with me.

To be fair, that Stanley Parable clip is three and a half minutes long, so it isn't totally straightforward working out what you meant by it. I guess I misunderstood your use of it too, cos I kinda assumed you really liked the song.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
I thought the song was well done overall but i would agree that the lyrics could have used another pass to be stronger in spots. The point-counterpoint aspect really needed work.
 

Sciz

Member
Started slow, but it turned out to be a decent episode in the end. Great work from the art team. Back half of the season's gonna be real interesting with all the plot threads they've left dangling.
 
Started slow, but it turned out to be a decent episode in the end. Great work from the art team. Back half of the season's gonna be real interesting with all the plot threads they've left dangling.
Honestly, I've got concerns that they'll be resolved in a remarkably half-assed manner... I dunno, Season 3 left me a bit sour on that. Plus, we're seven episodes in and have synopses for four more, but none of them seem to deal with that mysterious box from "Princess Twilight" or shadow creature from "Castle Mane-ia"...

I'd like to be proven wrong, of course.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
I only hope that it wasn't just a typical horror story ending tease and that lasting effects were caused. After all, she said she needed to understand them better!

Although watch the box or something else be involved in removing all effects, and the status quo wins again.
 

HUELEN10

Member
I only hope that it wasn't just a typical horror story ending tease and that lasting effects were caused. After all, she said she needed to understand them better!

Although watch the box or something else be involved in removing all effects, and the status quo wins again.

In all honesty, I expect the exact opposite; I'd be shocked if it didn't involve "RAINBOW ROCKS/RAINBOW POWER" at this point.
 

HUELEN10

Member
Rainbow power?
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And for reference, Rainbow Rocks.
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There was even an Italian toy promo featuring the line with a short animation.

Every single toy variant to date has had something show-related.

Royal Pony Wedding: Twi's brother gets hitched
Crystal Empire: Crystal Empire
Crystal Princess Celebration: Season 4 intro/Equestria Girls

With the look of the toys, and short animation in general, they seem to gain effects (almost as if they were becoming the elements of harmony or something).
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
I'm not clear on your meaning with respect to the bolded part of my post in your quote, especially since you said "the opposite".

Edit: Oh wait, you're not talking about vampirism here, right?
 
Well, I decided not to watch any clips going into this one, so I only had the synopsis to go on. This episode went weird, I did not expect it to go in the direction it did. Still, I liked it. It had some really fun call backs to previous episodes like Winter Wrap Up and The Stare Master and I thought the overall message was alright, although it seemed a bit forced. Fun episode, better than Flight to the Finish but not as good as Castlemania or Daring Don't. It was a good effort from Merriweathers. She really likes making Flutters go crazy. Song was alright.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Well, I decided not to watch any clips going into this one, so I only had the synopsis to go on. This episode went weird, I did not expect it to go in the direction it did.
Yeah, I was just making wild self-serving predictions that weren't meant to be taken seriously based on that short episode description. I'm shocked that I was right in any way.
 

Morgadeth

Member
My LIttle Pony: Friendship is Magic S4 7



Good morality tale about the bigoted ponies of Ponyville fighting against the natural order of things due to fear of a ciderless dystopia. I guess I skipped a bunch of eps too but whatever.

Never mess with a drinking pony's cider.
 
This episode was surprisingly awesome. Very much reminiscent of A Canterlot Wedding. I was thinking it would just be a straightforward disagreement between Applejack and Fluttershy and they would both find out they were both right and wrong and then BAM! Flutterbat! Song was awesome too.

I do wonder if random cliffhangers are going to be a thing (this after the random stranger in Castle-Mania). Also, my sister and I agreed. The humanized Flutterbat fanart/cosplay is going to be amazing.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Ah sorry, forgot to be more specific. I meant that google image search is full of hits for "flutterbat" all dating within the past 24 hours, and then got those two links to serve as good examples.
 
Really liked the episode, very fun. Morale was pretty meh but well...
The song was excellent, great tribute to Nightmare Before Christmas, and best song for me since This Day Aria (wow that was two seasons ago).

Pinkie Pie was the star of this episode, and she wasnt even hers. Loved the winter wrap up reference.
 
Yeah, when are they getting back to that shit?

How long is the season? 24 episodes?

Or the whole "Twilight is a princess now". It's like she's just regular Twilight but with wings. What about her life in Canterlot? What about her princess training?
 

Whogie

Member
They should have left RD untouched :p

A lot of that episode didn't really make much sense. Like how the vampire powers transferred, how and if they transferred back in the end; I don't really see how the moral ties in too well. A lot of things like that. This was probably my least-favorite episode this season, though I've been happy with the season overall.

I love how Pinkie was the only one who didn't get gloomy colors in that song. Perfect for her character.
 

PaulloDEC

Member
A lot of that episode didn't really make much sense. Like how the vampire powers transferred, how and if they transferred back in the end; I don't really see how the moral ties in too well. A lot of things like that. This was probably my least-favorite episode this season, though I've been happy with the season overall.

Once you get past the distracting cuteness of Fluttershy as a bat-pony, the truly weird shape of the story becomes a bit clearer. What initially looks like a story about:

A) Long-term solutions vs short-term ones
B) Respecting the natural order of things while learning to co-exist
C) Fluttershy and Applejack being ethically at odds with one another

...suddenly switches half-way through to become a vaguely Halloween-ish story about Fluttershy turning into a Vampire Bat. If you replaced the bats from the first half with some other pest (say, locusts) the two halves could be from entirely different stories.

Doesn't really make it any less fun to watch, but totally weird structure all the same.


This is some weird stuff. I can only assume it ties into the show with an episode where the Mane 6 drink too much cider and spend the night getting streaks and covering themselves with shiny stickers.
 

Tizoc

Member
Could somone post the GIF of Applejack when there were apples falling around her please?

IMO this season is pretty good so far, didn't find any of the episodes to be bad.

Need a Pinky centric episode already though =P

Oh and Power Ponies seemed like a missed opportunity to have the title song changed to a parody of MMPR's opening theme.
 

Orcastar

Member
This episode was a mess.

Sweet Apple Acres, the farm around which Ponyville was built, is in trouble and Applejack sounds an alarm, but the only ponies who show up are her five best friends
and Spike
? I guess everyone else in Ponyville is sick of apples.

So the farm is under attack from vampire fruit bats. AJ and Fluttershy both present their arguments on what should be done about them: AJ wants the bats gone because they're destroying her apples but Fluttershy posits that this is actually good for the apple trees in the long run. That's a nice conflict, short-term benefits vs. long-term gains.

But apparently Fluttershy is really bad at arguing her position since everyone sides with AJ. Rainbow Dash siding with AJ makes sense since she's rash
and dense
. Rarity, the shrewd businesswoman who probably understands a thing or two about long-term gains over short-term profit, sides with AJ because bats are "icky". Yeah, that kinda makes sense for her. Pinkie Pie's opinion doesn't really matter because she's insane. But Twilight? The highly educated, newly crowned princess and leader of the group, siding with AJ? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It's completely out of character for her.

No worries, Twilight comes up with the perfect solution: she's gonna cast a spell on the bats that will make them not want to eat apples anymore. Because that worked out so well with the parasprites in Swarm of the Century. Except it's apparently not the same spell since she needs to have the bats' undivided attention to cast it? It's magic, ain't gotta explain shit!

Throwing caution and experience to the wind, Twilight casts the spell and the bats stop eating apples. But what do they eat instead? Are they just gonna starve to death? Did Twilight just condemn the bats to a slow and agonising death? Apparently this is a minor detail that doesn't warrant further deliberation. After all, the goal was just to stop the bats from eating the apples. Also, it's magic, so ain't gotta explain shit!

Moving on, the spell actually backfired and turned Fluttershy into a feral batpony, one hell-bent on sucking every apple in Sweet Apple Acres dry. I could complain about how Twilight's spell backfiring like this makes no sense whatsoever, but hey, it's magic, ain't gotta explain shit!

Obviously something must be done about Flutterbat, but contrary to what one might think, the problem is not how to turn her back, but rather how to catch her so Twilight can turn her back. Um, AJ could use her lasso? Rainbow Dash could outfly her or make a tornado or something? Twilight could stop her in midair with that nifty spell she used in Castle Mane-ia? Since these solutions all make sense, Twilight instead comes up with the idea of tricking Flutterbat into looking in a mirror, which apparently somehow causes Fluttershy to use the Stare on herself. Even though she doesn't look like she's using the Stare when she looks in the mirror. Even though it's been made perfectly clear in previous episodes that doing the Stare requires a conscious effort on Fluttershy's part. Despite the fact that (or because) this plan makes no sense whatsoever, it works, after which Twilight does her thing and Fluttershy returns back to normal. Yay.

And then the gang go and build a sanctuary for the vampire fruit bats. Why? Did the bats return to normal when Twilight cured Fluttershy? Since it's implied that they did, how do they suddenly no longer pose a threat to the entire farm? Nothing has changed compared to the start of the episode, but just because Twilight's spell backfired, the entire gang now sides with Fluttershy and even AJ changes her opinion? Putting up a fence and a sign isn't going keep the bats in their sanctuary! This doesn't make any sense!

So yeah, in my opinion this episode was a mess. Feel free to accuse me of nitpicking, but I feel that this episode had way too many inconsistencies and things that just don't make sense, which I find frustrating since older episodes actually do stand up to this kind of scrutiny.

The song was nice though.
 
This episode was a mess.

Sweet Apple Acres, the farm around which Ponyville was built, is in trouble and Applejack sounds an alarm, but the only ponies who show up are her five best friends
and Spike
? I guess everyone else in Ponyville is sick of apples.
Having learned her lesson in Applebuck Season, AJ asked for her friends to come help with this new harvest. Excited for the harvest (and being a good host) she arrives to the site first. The other ponies are going to/arriving at the farm when AJ sounds the alarm, and as such only the friends are there to hear it and start running there. They are also the only ones to run there because they are the only ones involved with the applebucking. Do you run to every church that rings its bells? Run to a nearby school when the school bell rings?
 
My goodness, they're giving a lot of "fanservice" to Fluttershy fans. Not only have they been putting her in outrageous situations to entertain fans. It seems like, outside of Spike in the last episode, Fluttershy has gotten the most focus out of any character.

I'm surprised that the canonized the stare, as basically a superpower.
Fluttershy is a popular pony, so it isn't surprising that she's gotten so much attention. And a lot of people like messing with her stereotypical, gentle femininity by making times where it is contrasted.

I do kind of hope this is the end of it for many episodes, though. It would outstay its welcome, and I want to see more episodes that focus on characters again. And in general I found this episode kind of medium. It certainly had entertaining parts. But as an episode I feel like it wasn't as good as some of the others.
 
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