New Sonic game rumored to be unviled in February for almost every platform
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PhantomOfTheKnight
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Heroes had 4 teams of 3, so that makes 12. I think that game had the most characters.
Winterfang
Banned
I don't think the multiple characters where the main issue with Sonic 06. I never play it, but I'm watching the Game Grumps playthrough and is clear that this game was rushed. It seems like a Beta.
Diablohead
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Thing is are we actually going to have rolling physics of any kind in this one? sonic adventure 1 and 2 had better rolling then generations.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
[Insert joke about Sonic World Adventure and Sonic 2006 here since Sonic 2006 was designed a lot like an Adventure game, and Sonic World Adventure had some of the RPG trappings that were actually done somewhat nicely]This sounds all well and good as a concept, but how does it feel? Sonic Team could still definitely fuck up somewhere.
Keeping expectations in check but I do love the idea of the concept and hope it does become a reality. I have always wanted them to go back to Sonic's friends playing similarly to how he plays, except with their own gameplay quirks (Knuckles' gliding, climbing; Tails' flying, etc.) I just can't understand why they moved away from that when it'd take even less effort than what they did in Sonic Adventure 2.
Maybe this game will be called Sonic Adventure 3 just because you can play as multiple characters.
Numbers are irrelevant.
Regardless, I feel a little iffy about this. I never really liked playing as the friends in the Adventure games. It was all fine and dandy in Advance 1, Rush (Blaze played somewhat similarly to Sonic, so...), and the Genesis games, but I never liked the controls or the camera for them. Granted, Sonic Team seem to be in a better place, and if they can pull it off without mucking up the pacing and flow of level structure and the game, then I won't feel too bad about it.
I'll simply be very happy to see evidence that they're sticking to the Unleashed/Colours/Generations model of level design.
If they include someone who can spindash, I certainly hope they fix it because it was way overpowered and broken in Generations.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
And in the US it's outsold all other versions combined.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Though mechanically, they didn't play that much different from Sonic, lol.
again, does anyone like shadow yet?
I'd rather them move slowly with regards to including different characters as opposed to saying "we're going to include everyone!" I know some people want a plethora of characters to draw from, but if they concentrate on having may three or four different characters, I feel like the controls and general idea behind the characters' skillsets might be more cohesive and better-designed. Less can be more.
What? You mean you don't like poor enemy placement, billion of spike pits and freezing Walruses?
You need to have more faith in Iizuka-sama. He also said that they had no plans for Sonic Adventure 3 in the near future, but said if fans want it he will make it, said that with a huge smile on his face.
So that means he doesn't consider any of the past games Sonic Adventure 3. but hes the one fully responsible for the Adventure style games, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the direction the series goes back in. Generations actually felt like adventure at times, i got a feeling this game will feel even more like Adventure at times.ShockingAlberto
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I can see why they would return to the shitty friends well.
If Generations proved anything, it's that creating a Sonic-only game that has enough content for $60 is fucking tough and skimping on the production values could just make the bottom drop out on the whole thing.
"You should replay the levels for better times!" is not a good way to sell games when you could just talk about up front length.
Generations was fairly short and the last part of that game fell off a cliff, so hopefully they can improve on that.
If Generations proved anything, it's that creating a Sonic-only game that has enough content for $60 is fucking tough and skimping on the production values could just make the bottom drop out on the whole thing.
"You should replay the levels for better times!" is not a good way to sell games when you could just talk about up front length.
Generations was fairly short and the last part of that game fell off a cliff, so hopefully they can improve on that.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I almost forgot he didn't have anything to do with Sonic 2006 and Sonic Unleashed. And Colours and Generations turned out alright, and he was the producer for those. :lolYou need to have more faith in Iizuka-sama. He also said that they had no plans for Sonic Adventure 3 in the near future, but said if fans want it he will make it, said that with a huge smile on his face.
Still, you know how I feel, Shadi!
We need the pic of Iizuka drinking a giant glass of beer.
That's another thing that worries me. The last portion of the game seemed so obviously rushed, especially with the final boss for the console version being markedly worse than the 3DS version, and the level design for Planet Wisp being wonky when the original version of the level wasn't that difficult to contend with (ie: Sonic levels shouldn't take the long on a first time through, imo).
Some of the CGs they used for marketing didn't even turn up in the final product, so I have to wonder what happened there.
What? Those games didn't really have any rolling physics. Have you played them recently?
Shadow Hog
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Blaze
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I like how badly SA1 in particular disobeys the laws of physics.
i can roll foreverrrrrr
That actually reminds me of what he said in an interview:
Iizuka-san said:
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2011/09/takashi-iizuka-talks-about-the-past-and-future-of-sonic/
Whoa, whoa, wait a minute...
people didn't like the 2D gameplay in Generations? That's surprising to me. Those were my favorite stages.
Did you guys start playing Sonic during the late '90s/early '00s?
Anyway, I would be really interested in a New Sonic (Generations-like) game for next gen consoles.
people didn't like the 2D gameplay in Generations? That's surprising to me. Those were my favorite stages.
Did you guys start playing Sonic during the late '90s/early '00s?
Anyway, I would be really interested in a New Sonic (Generations-like) game for next gen consoles.
Kind of tired of the Unleashed game play to be honest. It's a good formula but nothing more than that, and little has been done to evolve it, if it's even possible. I always feel like Unleashed and Generations brought out the obsessive compulsive in me during speed running and I didn't have much fun going back to the games once I got all the levels down to a T.
As for Sonic Team bringing back multiple play styles, I wouldn't mind it but seeing how they're still not the best designers when it comes to pacing I'm skeptical. That and I'm not sure how they'll be able to put in all the characters in levels designed after Unleashed game play, unless they're incredibly inconsequential.
As for Sonic Team bringing back multiple play styles, I wouldn't mind it but seeing how they're still not the best designers when it comes to pacing I'm skeptical. That and I'm not sure how they'll be able to put in all the characters in levels designed after Unleashed game play, unless they're incredibly inconsequential.
You're telling me everyone has been wrongfully villianising Iizuka all these years?That actually reminds me of what he said in an interview:
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2011/09/takashi-iizuka-talks-about-the-past-and-future-of-sonic/
I don't know what to believe anymore.
TheCongressman1
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I've played Sonic since the beginning and my favorite parts of Generations were the 3D segments. Classic just doesn't play right. The rolling not working correctly gets on my nerves.
That's because Sonic fans are crazy/high/stupid as fuck. One of the most divided fanbases out there... worse than Megaman and Castlevania fans.
I didn't liked ANY of the 3D titles until Unleashed started to make Sonic progress in the right way. Adventure sucks, Heroes sucks, 06... lol, Shadow... lol.
The 2D gameplay in Generations was really good with Classic Sonic. The only problem was with Modern, and that's not even that bad, just make the jump less floaty and we're good to go. I never expected perfect Genesis physics... that's a stupid thing to want. I agree with making roll more useful though... but it never made the game worse not having proper rolling physics.
Advance (to some extent), Rush, Colors, Unleashed (PS360 daylight) and Generations are the only good outputs there in my oppinion.
Winterfang
Banned
I started to play since I was a kid with Sonic 2 Genesis. I prefer the 3D titles.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Wait, people thought Iizuka had something to do with Sonic 2006? :lol He just got "special thanks" in the credits. Other people were behind that mess.
Personally, I don't care as long as I'm having fun. Loved the 3D and 2D stages in Generations. Loved Unleashed to bits after a while with it, Loved Colours for its cohesive design, art direction and emphasis on power-ups.
I don't think that's necessarily the case because we've had a few people say they widely prefer the Adventure games but grew up with the Genesis/Mega Drive games in the past. It just has a matter to do with what they like in terms of game design. Maybe they like the more narratively-focused route or like having lots of characters at their disposal.
Personally, I don't care as long as I'm having fun. Loved the 3D and 2D stages in Generations. Loved Unleashed to bits after a while with it, Loved Colours for its cohesive design, art direction and emphasis on power-ups.
From the description it doesn't sound like it's going to be completely different, but more akin to Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic Advance.
Yeah man, Iizuka is inspirational. Just look at this, this screams created by Iizuka-san, no one else would of thought of such an insane design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DKtpc5QnX8
he's not to blame for Shadow the Hedgehog either, nope, the AMERICANS are the reason Shadow the Hedgehog was made! They love guns! http://www.sonicstadium.org/2010/12/shadow-the-hedgehogs-target-audience-was-u-s-gamers/
US likes FPS games so I'm going to put a gun in a Pokemon game.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
That wouldn't really be too bad, imo. That's truly how it should be, provided it's executed well.
For some reason my mind was going to Sonic Fusion when I really should've been thinking of the Advance games.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Why not another installment of Shadow the Hedgehog? The game was gutsy and intuitive. Why play it safe, Sega? You're better than this.
Just in case you're being serious.......no
The Horror the horror
Yeah, also it mentioned it in the OP. =p
There's absolutely no way he is.
Winterfang
Banned
Can't be worse than the original. Could work like a fast Rachet and Clank.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Well, I had fun with it. Reminded me a bit of Conker's. The game had its issues but, if tuned up, can establish itself as a sound IP for Sega. I thought it was premature to abandon the concept altogether.
Shadow Hog
Member
Go the Transformers route; make a Pokémon that is a gun.
He lives on while Waluigi suffers.
With James Turner I wouldn't doubt it for Gen 6.
Bwahahahaha!
No, it was a great idea that they abandoned it. If only it was cancelled during development.
This has never occurred to me. What a cruel world this is!
Winterfang
Banned
Remoraid is based on a gun.
Colors and Generations 3D sections were pretty fun imo. Alot more fun than in the past anyway.
Would be nice to have special stages built on that mechanic if anything.
They have to play it safe because their developers aren't good enough to do anything new without it being an unpolished mess.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
...the horror.
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
Loved Generations and Colors so much. I'm.. actually looking forward to a new Sonic game. Feels good.
Relaxed Muscle
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Meccanical
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Hey guys what's going on-