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Newly Elected Governor Strips 140,000 Of Voting Rights, Lowers The Minimum Wage
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Jmanunknown
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Yes it is right when you consider the incarceration rates for black people. Its ridiculous how policed black people are its like a form of incarceration.
read this article about the incarceration rates
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/antonio-moore/black-mass-incarceration-statistics_b_6682564.html
excelsiorlef
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Sarcasm?
soundscream
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Stinkles sarcasm has flown over many heads.
Sorry, sometimes I forget this isn't poligaf.which rhymes with polygraph for a reason.
Vestal
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Stinkles you for got the /s at the end. Some are thinking you actually ment this.
Like Kansas, I'm finding it really difficult feeling sorry for Kentuckians. They either voted for this or did not vote and so allowed this to happen. I'm convinced people are going to have to start feeling the burden of their bad choices (or their lack of exercising their choices) before anything can happen.
This means innocent people will have to suffer unnecessarily, but it seems people are hell bent on learning the hard way.
This means innocent people will have to suffer unnecessarily, but it seems people are hell bent on learning the hard way.
BladeoftheImmortal
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People like that exist IRL. Who's to know sometimes? I knew because stinkles is a lovable jerk, but who else knows that?
I loved the post election interviews with voters that said they new Bevins would negatively impact them, but they basically just had to vote Republican because they always have. I hope we get followup interviews with these people once they lose their health insurance.
These are the kinds of people voting in this society, so I'm not sure all of it can be blamed on "fuck you, got mine" mindsets when many of these people are basically "got nothing, will still vote the same way".
These are the kinds of people voting in this society, so I'm not sure all of it can be blamed on "fuck you, got mine" mindsets when many of these people are basically "got nothing, will still vote the same way".
appaws
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We had a very popular, centrist Democrat. He would have been re-elected easily, but he was term-limited out. The Democrats were stupid and nominated a known terrible campaigner who is also way too liberal for the state.
States like this will give Dems a problem going forward because the national party has moved too far to the left. A coalition of young secularists, single women, academics, minorities, and organized state workers will not lead to victory here.
The coal miners and associated workers in the eastern part of the state used to be solid Democratic voters. The Obama EPA going after coal has really hurt them, they will now be Republicans for at least a generation.
We did elect Jeanne Hampton as Lieutenant Governor, the first African American woman elected statewide in Kentucky.
rokkerkory
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Why do people vote against themselves?
You do realize that Democrats are the US liberal party, while Republicans are the US conservative party? Right?
They've been this way since Nixon.
metalslimer
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Sorry Kentucky. Elections have consequences
People love the GOP. And people keep thinking Trump has no chance. LOL.
Link
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No it hasn't. It only seems that way because the GOP has gone so far batshit insane to the right.
Possession of more than 8 ounces will lead to a felony charge.
Exactly what i was thinking
metalslimer
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Kentucky is a conservative state that voted this guy in an off year where democrats don't vote. This has nothing to do with a presidential election with a candidate half the GOP hates
Your Entertainer
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Dumb fcuking idiot.
Edit: lol
Edit: lol
I don't think he gets it. Lets tell him.
If voters there sees this as a bad thing, then maybe the Democrats should let the Republicans have them.
HomerSimpson-Man
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7.25 in 2015 almost 2016....its a goddamn joke.
Classic ideological class warfare. People like this guy are pretty much acknowledging their actions as such and are giving a big middle finger to anyone who doesn't like it. George Carlin would be laughing in his grave.
Can't be posted enough
appaws
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Yes, I know that would be the Gaf CW....but this was a Democratic state for generations.
Both parties have moved more towards the margins and American politics has become polarized. Bernie would have been laughed out of a Democratic primary in the past. The Atlantic just ran a good piece on America moving left...why do you think that would exclude the Democratic Party?
The voters here are natural social conservatives and in favor or a somewhat activist government. I think on bread and butter issues my neighbors would still vote Democratic...but they are not going to vote for a party that supports things they see as antithetical to their social order. Like gun control, abortion on demand, (what they feel is) extremism on environmental issues.
appaws
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There just aren't enough of those groups here. Louisville is not a big enough city to outvite the rest of this very rural state. The coalition needed for a Democrat to win in Kentucky has to include more white men to get to 50.1%. Many of those people would still be Democrats on a lot of issues....
...but nominating a liberal lawyer with a record of losing state elections is not the way to do it.
Only a handful of states permanently disenfranchise felons from voting, and it looks KY is now one of them (again). Most states "reenfranchise" felons after the term of the sentence and any parole period. At least two states allow felons to vote via absentee ballot from prison (Vermont and Maine).
entremet
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Especially if they pay federal taxes. They take 1/3 of your income and you can't even influence the process?
Yep. Kentucky isn't worth the trouble. If the people want to vote for the right wing extremist who would have been laughed out of his own party a mere decade ago, then fine. Have at it and go wild. Once the temper tantrum against progress and change subsides, then the Democrats can go back and see if they can convince the people that they can put the pieces back together.
BigJonsson
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If only the voters of KY could vote to set the Governor's pay at free
Your Entertainer
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Absolutely disagree on both parties moving leftwards. As a whole, conservatives have dragged the conversation considerably to the right compared to 10 years ago. Yeah, social equality and awareness of class warfare against the poor are on the rise, but that still doesn't mean much when the policy debates still seem to be between far right and center to center right. Imo, Bernies the kinda guy we need on the national stage to start dragging the conversation back to reality. I haven't read that Atlantic piece btw, so I'll have to give that a read.
If you posit that America is moving towards the left, but Kentucky is moving backwards, that supports the stereotype that Kentucky is a backwards place.
If they had that power, they would have no governor.
capitalCORN
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What's the over/under on the KY min wage? $4? Or is that too optimistic?
appaws
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I don't think both parties are moving leftwards. I think they are both moving toward the margins. Republicans are moving to the right, obviously. A guy like Kasich who is actually pretty conservative is getting no traction because he is seen as a RINO.
But the Dems in Kentucky were always socially conservative compared to the coastal elites. To they extent that they abandon that and move into line with the national party, the can't win a state this rural.
If you define it that way, sure. I guess my neighbors would be more than happy to have such enlightened gaffers see them as "backwards."
PhoenixDark
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Not even mad. Lot of folks didn't vote, or voted against their interest. Especially in regard to all the republicans in that state who use Obamacare.
Voting matters, especially on the state and local level. Maybe they'll learn their lesson but history says they won't.
Voting matters, especially on the state and local level. Maybe they'll learn their lesson but history says they won't.
$7.25 an hour is the lowest they can go due to federal laws.
GreatestHits
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Damn dude, you're a dumbass
RecRoulette
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Why all of the focus on presidential stuff can be dangerous sometimes. People feel like that's the only time their vote matters, and it leads to shit like this.
A ton of younger people I know didn't go vote, and here we are.
A ton of younger people I know didn't go vote, and here we are.
GreatestHits
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It at least shows what constitutes our political makeup
you know its the holiday season out in the meatsphere
and that means family dinners
which means
i got to hear that line genuinely from multiple people
OrangeGrayBlue
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You have to remember we're not even a century removed from lynchings being a family event. I'd be interested in seeing the statistics for people who support a life sentence for any and all felonies. I think it would be surprisingly high.
Republicans gonna Republican.
To those who insist that both parties are the same - read this story and shut up already.
(Also, doesn't Kentucky have a pretty successful state Obamacare insurance exchange program? I'd imagine something like that would also be on the chopping block under a Republican governor.)
To those who insist that both parties are the same - read this story and shut up already.
(Also, doesn't Kentucky have a pretty successful state Obamacare insurance exchange program? I'd imagine something like that would also be on the chopping block under a Republican governor.)
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