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Newly Elected Governor Strips 140,000 Of Voting Rights, Lowers The Minimum Wage
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Nah. In general I think you should be able to ingest whatever you want.
But what does any of that have to do with felony disenfranchisement?
One of the goals of prison is rehabilitation and then allowing people to go back into the world after they do their time. Unfortunately, we attach a lot of punitive measures on top of people's own time that don't allow people to be properly integrated back into their communities. It's one of the reasons the recidivism rates are so high in America -- our justice system isn't actually doing anything besides locking people up and then throwing them out with a bunch of asterisks by their name that make it harder for them to get employed.
That doesn't mean that every person who ends up in jail and is released has the possibility to be a good, productive member of the society. There are some bad people. But that doesn't mean that the entire system has to be punitive and counter productive because of those people. There are also a lot of stupid people, people with lower IQs, people who think the world is 6000 years old, people who believe in ChemTrails, people who think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. But no one is asking is for Ronda Rousey's disenfranchisement because she believes in a terrible conspiracy theory because that has nothing to do with giving one person one vote.
Marauder Shields
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Not a chance. These people have demonstrated over and over that they're willing to live in perpetual poverty as long as their elected officials promise to stick it to 'the gays' or 'the coloreds' or 'the liberals'. You can't fix that level of misinformed.
zero shift
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Why are people letting Slo blatantly troll them?
This isn't the first time he has done this. He comes into threads shitting on poor people and takes some months breaks just to do it over again so he doesn't get banned. Each time he comes up with a new story about some job his family member has and how it has him come closer to the experience of how shitty poor people are.
This isn't the first time he has done this. He comes into threads shitting on poor people and takes some months breaks just to do it over again so he doesn't get banned. Each time he comes up with a new story about some job his family member has and how it has him come closer to the experience of how shitty poor people are.
Zvonimir Boban
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People who cry about the encroachment of Sharia law yet support essentially the same theocratic laws when they are supposedly based on Christianity strike me as a particularly unfortunate example of a failure of reading comprehension.
Hell, many of them advocate for religious laws even more extreme than Dharia law - though at least those ones could retroactively justify themselves as being so set against Sharia law because it is too progressive from their perspective on the far reaches.
Maaaaaybe the argument could be made in the context of while they are serving their time. But even then it's pretty shaky consider the state of justice these days. And really it feels punitive and prejudiced because it's not a deterrent nor are hardly any elections decided by the votes of a handful of former convicts.
What's the reasoning behind it in modern 300 million population America? Like do they think they're all gonna band together and vote themselves into office and issue pardons to their buddies? I'm pretty sure only major corporate industries pull that racket.
The Maverick
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You can't do anything but laugh at the madness at this point. Kentucky has the representative it deserves.
Also, Slo is only missing the w from his name, don't bother with him.
Also, Slo is only missing the w from his name, don't bother with him.
Ryouji Gunblade
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I like how you can serve the full time in a corrections facility and later not be officially recognized as corrected enough to vote.
Perhaps a more compelling punishment would be to have that disenfranchisement pass on to their children. They could have a badge identity them for convenience. Possibly a brightly colored "F"
Can Crusher
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Love how lying to be elected doesn't have consequences.
metalslimer
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I don't give a fuck how much you've seen and done when you can't realize that disenfranchising people is only going to lead to a higher chance of them returning to crime. We might as well just execute felons with the way they apparently deserve to be treated after they are out since apparently they deserve no rights.
theignoramus
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Lowering the minimum wage seems the more malevolent act to me.
Many members of the GOP would be in favor of this actually. I mean look at the police.
crazygambit
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I thought there was a Federal Minimum Wage that would apply no matter what. Then states can set a minimum wage higher than that if they wish.
So I don't see how wages would tend to zero.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Racism is this powerful and important to them.
The GOP has groomed a good segment of the population that black people are to blame for everything and they are just freeloading complaining criminals.
Nixon and Reagan really ran buckwild with Lee Atwater's southern strategy. Most of Gen X and all millennials grew up hearing black people and other 'non-model' minorities ain't shit in various ways; which probably helps explain why a lot of young (40 and under) white progressives aren't actually progressive in terms of racial issues.
Socially liberal and fiscal conservative my damn ass.
Pretty sure the economy is fucked everywhere. Even obama admitted it in his npr interview.
djplaeskool
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Chickens are already coming home to roost.
Vicetrailia
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Wow.
Angelus Errare
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Pretty much why in that one thread about how whites are starting to feel the effects of conservative/republican actions I felt very little sympathy for them.
theignoramus
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So fucking idiotic. Vote against your self interests because you resent the idea of a lazy or undeserving black getting government assistance.
Why the fuck are Americans so hung up this myopic hatred for social welfare that benefits anyone other than the people in their own racial or class grouping.
Apparently they need to give one year notice, so we will know well in advance.
Pretty sure you weren't listening properly.
Christopher
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Again becuse a felony is a huge thing it's not a misdemeanor or violation. Again, it's a deterrent for not committing a crime. Voting is a fundamental and privileged/honored thing to do - to have someone's voting right taken away IMO is a big deal.
You're contradicting yourself. It's a right, not a privilege.
No it's a right. If former felons have finished their sentences, they should be able to vote just as easily as everyone else.
While they are felons they lose their right to vote. Once they paid their debt to society they should get it back. Otherwise you are branding a person perpetually as a felon. if that's the case, why even bother letting them go?
Coriolanus
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Is there any evidence that voting right penalties cause any statistically noticeable amount of deterrence?
gutter_trash
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high on smoking blue grass.
The Federal should have a standard minimum wage minimum. If States want to raise them, fine but States should not be allowed to lower them under the Federal minimum. That is my take.
Fuck State's rights. States are not countries
The Federal should have a standard minimum wage minimum. If States want to raise them, fine but States should not be allowed to lower them under the Federal minimum. That is my take.
Fuck State's rights. States are not countries
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Do you really think anyone is thinking about their voting rights like this?
The reasons why this is done and why black Americans are disproportionally arrested are real clear.
There is a national minimum wage, I believe it is 7.25. I'm pretty sure that takes precedence over any state wage, but maybe there are exceptions I'm not aware of.
$7.25, though there's a push to get that up to $15 an hour. Fun fact: no place in the country can you actually live off of $15 an hour.
psynergylover
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As other have said the min wage is $7 25 on the federal level; basically no can go lower than that (though people have tried) here in CT the min wage is $9.15 will be $9.60 in 2016, and then $10.10 by 2017 thanks to a bill to raise the minimum wage. Hopefully our next governor doesn't pull any shit like this
You're ether not good at reading or... actually I give up.
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