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Number Of PlayStation Plus Subscribers Increased By 22% YoY To 47.4M Subscribers In 2020​

As of December 2020, there were 47.4M PS Plus subscribers, a 22% YoY increase from 2019. There were also 114M active users of PSN’s free digital entertainment service as of the same time period.

Number Of PlayStation Plus Subscribers Increased By 22% YoY To 47.4M Subscribers In 2020

The Playstation Network (PSN) is Sony’s free digital entertainment service that is linked with its Playstation consoles but has since expanded to include other Sony devices. PlayStation Plus(PS Plus) is the PSN’s paid-subscription service that ...

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[3liteDragon]

 

[reksveks]

Number Of PlayStation Plus Subscribers Increased By 22% YoY To 47.4M Subscribers In 2020​

Number Of PlayStation Plus Subscribers Increased By 22% YoY To 47.4M Subscribers In 2020

The Playstation Network (PSN) is Sony’s free digital entertainment service that is linked with its Playstation consoles but has since expanded to include other Sony devices. PlayStation Plus(PS Plus) is the PSN’s paid-subscription service that ...

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It could be right but we got anything better than

According to data presented by Safe Betting Sites, Playstation Plus grew to 47.4M subscribers in 2020 – a 22% YoY increase from 2019.

Doesn't fill me with confidence

 

[SlimySnake]

Uncharted wouldn’t have been open world and if you open the 2020 link you’ll see it states the work started in 2019.

We will see soon enough. lets hope Jason is wrong. I really dont want the last two years to have been a waste. I was hoping for a Days Gone sequel in April 2022 thinking three years would be enough to do a sequel now that they have an engine, characters and gameplay all refined.

 

[ethomaz]

It could be right but we got anything better than

According to data presented by Safe Betting Sites, Playstation Plus grew to 47.4M subscribers in 2020 – a 22% YoY increase from 2019.

Doesn't fill me with confidence

Sony will shares this updated data in early May.

 

[SlimySnake]

Number Of PlayStation Plus Subscribers Increased By 22% YoY To 47.4M Subscribers In 2020​

Number Of PlayStation Plus Subscribers Increased By 22% YoY To 47.4M Subscribers In 2020

The Playstation Network (PSN) is Sony’s free digital entertainment service that is linked with its Playstation consoles but has since expanded to include other Sony devices. PlayStation Plus(PS Plus) is the PSN’s paid-subscription service that ...

www.scoop.co.nz

At $60 a pop, thats $2.8 billion a year. That's all the money Avatar and Avengers End Game made.

Almost all of it is profit too since Online play is handled by third parties who host their own servers, and the PSN store pays for itself with the 30% cut they receive from all sales. The only money they spend is on Cloud Save servers, PS+ games and PSN server upkeep. I'd say around $2 billion of it is pure profit.

That's why I am shocked to see MS put everything on PC. This is free money. Gamepass isnt. And every time someone buys an MS game on PC instead of Xbox, MS loses a potential XBL Gold sub. Same goes for Sony I guess. Just focus on selling consoles guys. That's your ecosystem. That's your meal ticket. Literal free money.

 

[TheRedRiders]

I'm hoping the summer is stacked with game reveals, from both Xbox and Sony.

The Future of Gaming event from Sony last year was in June, so that's like two months away in which we might see something from Sony/Playstation

Is it too early to summon the hype tra....oh wait, too early.

 

[cragarmi]

We will see soon enough. lets hope Jason is wrong. I really dont want the last two years to have been a waste. I was hoping for a Days Gone sequel in April 2022 thinking three years would be enough to do a sequel now that they have an engine, characters and gameplay all refined.

No worries, sometimes games just don't pan out, besides its not as if those 2 years were a complete waste, whatever features they added to the engine can be used on their next project, if for example they added an RT pipeline for their lighting system. Also preliminary work on the new IP was likely going alongside, with a small team whilst the main team were starting in pre-production for Days Gone 2. I think they can still make 2023.

 

[DJTaurus]

That’s what i call green power. What a technical marvel Xbox ecosystem is

 

[SlimySnake]

That’s what i call green power. What a technical marvel Xbox ecosystem is

Gears 5 is 205w average. hits up to 211w.

 

[ethomaz]

That’s what i call green power. What a technical marvel Xbox ecosystem is

That is something you doesn't see DF doing anymore.

 

[cragarmi]

That is something you doesn't see DF doing anymore.

It doesn't generate them enough 'clicks'

 

[SlimySnake]

That is something you doesn't see DF doing anymore.

they did this back at launch for both consoles. The numbers for Dirt 5 match what they did so I wouldnt be surprised if they are the source and this infographic is just 6 months late.

 

[IntentionalPun]

That's why I am shocked to see MS put everything on PC. This is free money. Gamepass isnt. And every time someone buys an MS game on PC instead of Xbox, MS loses a potential XBL Gold sub. Same goes for Sony I guess. Just focus on selling consoles guys. That's your ecosystem. That's your meal ticket. Literal free money.

I think people aren't as likely to "move to PC" or "buy something on PC" just because it's released as many on this forum seem to think.

It's basic math for them.

Extra sales from releasing on PC > money lost from people leaving console platform or buying less there

Sony is more cautious for now; a bit more worried about the potential lost console consumers.. but are coming around to the same idea.

 

[Lysandros]

Variable Clock won't be more performante only if the chip was bad designed and it stutter to reach higher clocks.
I can only think only of some RX 480 that have some issues to increase clock and throttled even below the base clock (that should be the fixed one).

But that is exception... variable clock will always give more performance because the lowest close is the base that is equal in performance to the fixed one. Imagine PS5 can run fixed at 2000Mhz... with variable clock it will range between 2000-2230Mhz that give you better performance than 2000Mhz fixed.

Series X could run between 1850Mhz and 2xxxMhz with variable clock that is better than 1850Mhz fixed.
There is actually no harm in variable clock... the worst case scenario is performance equal to fixed clocks but that rarely happens because most of time it will be higher than what you have in fixed.

Let clarify this to avoid confusion; are you saying that PS5 will downclock as much as 12% and its custom continuous boost+smartshift feature isn't any different from a stock PC GPU's variable frequency like RX 480?

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

That’s what i call green power. What a technical marvel Xbox ecosystem is

I don't think there's necessarily anything surprising about this difference at all.

It's expected due to the difference between the slower wider GPU design and the narrower faster PS5 design.

Operating at higher clocks increases power consumption super-linearly. So it's a given the PS5 will draw more power from the wall than XSX.

That said, I'd argue that both consoles being able to routinely pull 200+W, boast next-gen performance, maintain a console form factor, as well as include solid state storage for their mass storage devices, all for a less than $500 retail price makes them both exceptional feats of hardware engineering.

 

[DJTaurus]

"Another one" (feature) which is DX12 only.

 

[FatKingBallman]

Number Of PlayStation Plus Subscribers Increased By 22% YoY To 47.4M Subscribers In 2020​

Number Of PlayStation Plus Subscribers Increased By 22% YoY To 47.4M Subscribers In 2020

The Playstation Network (PSN) is Sony’s free digital entertainment service that is linked with its Playstation consoles but has since expanded to include other Sony devices. PlayStation Plus(PS Plus) is the PSN’s paid-subscription service that ...

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Sony mentioned these numbers 2 months ago during their fiscal year report

 

[ethomaz]

Let clarify this to avoid confusion; are you saying that PS5 will downclock as much as 12% and its custom continuous boost+smartshift feature isn't any different from a stock PC GPU's variable frequency like RX 480?

It is actually not different in terms of tech... the ability to down and up clock exists in all processors.
It is different in terms of implementation...
Radeon boost clock is based in power target while PS5 is based in workload.

The data, you can call logic, they use to down or up the clock is different.

RX 480 had issues... it should never go below base clock but it reached a high power draw making the clocks go below the base clock... RX 580 doesn’t suffer that issue anymore... some independent test showed that just using a lower vcore stabilized the clock so it could be something in AMD settings.

Now the 12% I have no ideia... I just used some random numbers to explain... PS5 drops clock below 2230Mhz how much depend of the workload but I have no ideia what these clocks are.

BTW GPUs doesn’t have Power Control unit for Smart Shift... it is only exists in APU and PS5 uses a customer Power Control unit due the logic being different from AMD.

Just being clear... the difference in PS5 is the logic customized in the Power Control that send the signal to GPU/CPU down/upclock.

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[SlimySnake]

man, crazy to think this is SSM's first new IP since GoW in 2005.

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[DarkMage619]

Don't worry these sony ponys might not accept you, but i'll always be here, fellow gaymer

The Sony 'ponies' as you call it seem to be the most excited about your vernacular. Maybe it's a Sony only fan thing I support people of all persuasions so do you.

 

[SlimySnake]

Looks like a downgrade is coming but it's still the best character model I've seen this gen outside of the dice render.

 

[LiquidRex]

So whats people's thoughts on XSX SSD IO Raw 5gb/s throughput?

 

[MasterCornholio]

Looks like a downgrade is coming but it's still the best character model I've seen this gen outside of the dice render.

Looking at those two side by side it has quite a bit left before it matches the original trailer. I wonder if Hellblade 2 will give GoW Ragnarak and future Naughty Dog character models a run for their money?

 

[MasterCornholio]

So whats people's thoughts on XSX SSD IO Raw 5gb/s throughput?

With uncompressed data?

I thought the XSX was a lot lower for that.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

So whats people's thoughts on XSX SSD IO Raw 5gb/s throughput?

Good enough to not be a bottleneck in any 3rd party game. No matter what VFX says, these consoles are

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

The Sony 'ponies' as you call it seem to be the most excited about your vernacular. Maybe it's a Sony only fan thing I support people of all persuasions so do you.

Don't pay any attention to these slutty ponies they've been after my carrot since day 1. Doesn't matter how many times I tell them i'm a gaymer like you

 

[Bernd Lauert]

She has crazy eyes. Still would with the force of a thousand suns.

 

[FatKingBallman]

So whats people's thoughts on XSX SSD IO Raw 5gb/s throughput?

With uncompressed data?

I thought the XSX was a lot lower for that.

It is still a raw. You can't change hardware numbers. They've mentioned that in other thread : "It's still 2.4GB/s raw, and it does this, but only when the OS and hardware aren't doing anything else. "

 

[Dabaus]

In hindsight it’s hilarious how MS showed a cg trailer of hellblade 2, claimed it was in engine which doesn’t mean anything, and the debate became about teraflops. The biggest irony of it all is the series S exists so even if the X could pump graphics out like that trailer it never will because the S will hold it back.

 

[assurdum]

"Another one" (feature) which is DX12 only.

The hell you are talking about. It's not exclusive.

 

[FatKingBallman]

Looks like a downgrade is coming but it's still the best character model I've seen this gen outside of the dice render.

Teeth downgraded.

 

[Barlow]

Looks like a downgrade is coming but it's still the best character model I've seen this gen outside of the dice render.

And posting a picture from GDC 2016 of Hellblade 1 (right picture) is helpful?

 

[TheRedRiders]

So whats people's thoughts on XSX SSD IO Raw 5gb/s throughput?

It may not be as good as the PS5’s but just the presence of an SSD is important to how games are designed, the low latency is important especially when it comes to streaming in high resolution textures and geometry and it will be critical to how game worlds are designed and managed.

People say that the PC space has had SSD’s for years with no such benefits but it’s obvious that game developers have not designed games around SSD’s for the past couple of years because they were held back by the HDD’s of the consoles.

Now that SSD’s are close to becoming the standard, developers will push the boundaries of what SSD’s are capable of, beyond loading times. The asset (geometry and textures) streaming pipeline will need to be overhauled and revised to take advantage of this technology and the Unreal Engine 5 demo showed us a glimpse of this.

 

[Physiognomonics]

So whats people's thoughts on XSX SSD IO Raw 5gb/s throughput?

Things are going to be very interesting in may when RE8 is released. We already know PS5 is loading a level in <2 sec (1.57sec) in that game.

 

[Barakov]

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Looks like a downgrade is coming but it's still the best character model I've seen this gen outside of the dice render.

>posts image from the first game
>definitely a downgrade

This is peak console twitter cringe.

 

[cragarmi]

The hell you are talking about. It's not exclusive.

And not NEW either! and still does not include their DLSS equivalent.

 

[Matsuchezz]

I love Ninja Theory Games, I will buy an XsX just for this game.

 

[SlimySnake]

>posts image from the first game
>definitely a downgrade

This is peak console twitter cringe.

Have you played hellblade? She didn't look like that in the first game.

 

[SlimySnake]

And posting a picture from GDC 2016 of Hellblade 1 (right picture) is helpful?

It's taken from the new game informer video posted above. And like i said above, she looked nothing like that in the first game.

 

[Barlow]

Yeah and the picture/video is from HB1.
She's talking about the first project there

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Looks like a downgrade is coming but it's still the best character model I've seen this gen outside of the dice render.

At least the gums are real.

 

[DForce]

"Another one" (feature) which is DX12 only.

You thought lol

AMD's Equivalent to DLSS, FidelityFX Super Resolution Is Coming to PS5 & Xbox Series Consoles

Nvidia may have the clear advantages over AMD thanks to it’s DLSS, but it seems that the company is holding back as it has been stated that they are launching their FidelityFX Super Resolution feature when it’s ready. This includes cross-support for the latest next-gen consoles, the PS5 and Xbox...

mp1st.com

 

[SlimySnake]

Yeah and the picture/video is from HB1.
She's talking about the first project there

Ok, but gameinformer tweet literally includes that picture saying it's about hellblade 2.

Poor from gameinformer.

 

[Barlow]

Don't know which Dev diary it was but for example.

 

[Mr Moose]

So whats people's thoughts on XSX SSD IO Raw 5gb/s throughput?

We know the specs, we have seen the SSD, where are you getting this from?

 

[Rea]

Like AMD Smartshift? Has anyone explained the technical difference between Sony's variable clock system and AMD's one?

They are similar but different, Sony's might be using the same Platform Control from AMD SmartShift which uses machine learning algorithm to predict power consumption based on workload.
SmartShift doesn't boost clocks, it just divert power from cpu to gpu vice versa based on silicon activity and software that you're running.
PS5 continuous boost clock has nothing to do with SmartShift, in ps5 SmartShift is added in order to divert power from cpu when cpu has extra power available, then divert it to already boosted gpu to squeeze out more performance.