Chris Metal
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Alternative to Vauxhall's outside the UK usually. Both brands of car are owned by GM (General Motors) so look pretty much identical with same car name. Vauxhall/Opel Corsa for example.
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Alternative to Vauxhall's outside the UK usually. Both brands of car are owned by GM (General Motors) so look pretty much identical with same car name. Vauxhall/Opel Corsa for example.
Seems like Gt6 comes out on top for accuracy, not surprising considering how much time Kaz spends on the ring, he probably pressured his employees to get it as close as possible.
Maybe someone can take a pic in Assetto Corsa too?
It looks cool but not revolutionary. If you are wondering what the hell I am talking about, my downstairs TV is 240Hz and my kids (who are the only ones who play on that set) never switch it from interpolation mode. It looks crazy smooth (like all games they play on that set) but doesn't fundamentally change the way the game plays.
Well, yeah, I just mean in a technical way I'd like to know what it's running at in different conditions (dry, rain, snow, storm, etc.), since it doesn't drop a single frame even in the most intense of storms.
Windom Earle
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There is a good reason why imgur is banned in the PC screenshot thread. Horrible compression, no place here. Not sure about flickr either...
Cubeupload.com doesn't add any compression and doesn't even require a log-in if you don't want to. Also, both mobile and browser-friendly.
That's what I switched to since minus stopped working. It's pretty great.
I'd imagine this one is the most accurate out of the lot. The environment doesn't look too hot though.
Well we do have video of forza 5 and real life footage from dash cams of Bathurst showing the track is very accurate.
You're mixing that up with Dan Greenawalt.
Pharaoh 117
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Hopefully GT can properly join the discussion in at E3
I sure hope so. GT7 will look unbelievable. PD always delivers the best looking racing games.
No am not, kaz did say that. When he was downplaying the first forza for being 30 fps.
Fortinbras
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FM5 is by far the worst looking racing game on current gen consoles. I'm not talking about the cars or the tracks, I'm not even talking about the cardboards. I just really hate the lighting in Forza games. It doesn't look realistic at all and I don't expect the sixth FM game to change that.
I prefer the visuals of PCars, even at 900p. The game simply looks more like the real thing.
I prefer the visuals of PCars, even at 900p. The game simply looks more like the real thing.
I'm an Aussie. I've been to Bathurst. I've driven the track. It seems like Turn 10 went for an early morning/sunrise setting and if they modelled the track in summer here, then there's a fair chance it would have been dry as fuck and not as green as it sometimes appears on TV. Not saying it would have looked identical to how it does, but it's not "nowhere close to reality" as you put it... The surrounding in the GT6 picture are actually too green, if we're talking about real-world accuracy...
SeeNoWeevil
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Just built a high end PC, running pCars at the absolute best settings. Driveclub beats it in almost every way outside IQ and framerate.
Just got to get the right time setting, the colors and lighting can be almost spot on in GT6.
Source?
Even in your pics it doesn't look like a nuclear wasteland which it does in Forza. Somehow other devs manage to capture it at the right time to look like TV footage but Forza can't? I'm hoping it was the result of launch rush and it will be fixed in FM6.
No imgur. Not ever, since it recompresses the images.
Compression on imgur is minimal since they revamped the website last year, removing the file size limit and reducing compression
I think it's enough for what we need in this thread.
Cubeupload.com sounds good as well
Well that obviously wasn't the look they were going for. They probably went with the early morning/sunrise time of day to break it up a bit so not every track was either overcast or in the middle of the day. There's nothing to "fix". You seem to think it has to look like TV footage or GT6, but it simply doesn't.
Here's a shot of what Bathurst actually looked like when it was being scanned:
And here's how it looks in the game:Well that obviously wasn't the look they were going for. They probably went with the early morning/sunrise time of day to break it up a bit so not every track was either overcast or in the middle of the day. There's nothing to "fix". You seem to think it has to look like TV footage or GT6, but it simply doesn't.
Here's a shot of what Bathurst actually looked like when it was being scanned:
Are you sure there's nothing to "fix"?!
eso76
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Hopefully GT can properly join the discussion in at E3
lol, this is ridiculous.
hats off to PD
Just seen this, and from the poster below, that picture in FM5 looks more like the real thing. Although, you're just looking at the visuals, have you seen in PCars how the line of the track is slightly off and seems to bend to the right while it's actually straight? Whereas in FM5, it looks spot on. Laser scanning!For a laserscanned track it sure is full of inaccuracies.
Real:
PCars:
FM5:
Notice how the rumble strip on the right is lacking the square patter thingy in forza.
Just got to get the right time setting, the colors and lighting can be almost spot on in GT6.
Source?
I don't believe Yamauchi referenced Forza or Turn 10 directly, but one time several years ago he said something like "if your game isn't running at 60fps it isn't a real game." I don't think it had anything to do with Forza, framerate is very important to the guy. He actually apologized for GT5's framedrops when the game came out. I can't find the source.
On a separate comment, he did say he played Forza 3 and it didn't feel like a simulation.
Ah, ok. I remember Dan saying the exact the same thing as well. lol.
I suppose GT5/6 aren't real games then
And to be fair Forza has improved leaps and bounds in terms of physics since FM3, I wonder what would Yamauchi say if he tried modern sims like AC and PC too.you forgot one
I suppose GT5/6 aren't real games then
The Forza comment was probably just trading blows with Dan when Greenawalt talked down about GT earlier that year at e3 2009.
http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/f...uchi_hasnt_done_anything_for_me_in_years.html
Lately Kaz has much nicer things to say.
“We always respect our competition,” Mr. Yamauchi said in regards to Forza, “the racing genre isn’t really that big in its entirety, so I’m glad that everyone works hard to boost the genre as a whole.”
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Context?
None really, I just got CFW so now I can get in-game GT6 shots and tried to make a comparison before new racing game reveals next week, in which case the thread will be dead until Forza 6 and NFS releases and all we have in the meantime are PR shots.
None really, I just got CFW so now I can get in-game GT6 shots and tried to make a comparison before new racing game reveals next week, in which case the thread will be dead until Forza 6 and NFS releases and all we have in the meantime are PR shots.
Tried to make comparisons... Yeah, that's how it looks ;-) and already downplaying shots we might get? Guess of more of these posts will come up, I'm done with this thread.
What?
Why are you already saying that shots we might get are only pr shots? For Forza it was already said the game will be playable.
Good.
Didn't realize it was playable. If GT7 gets unveiled I think all we're really getting are PR shots and a trailer. Anyway, all of this pre-release stuff isn't as fun as getting our own high-quality grabs to do direct track location comparisons.
1.21Gigawatts
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I wonder if Forza6 or GT7 can get close to Driveclubs weather:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO15LjN0OzU
Video by gaffer Stillmatic (i think)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO15LjN0OzU
Video by gaffer Stillmatic (i think)
TheAdmiester
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Forza 6 won't because it'll be running at 60fps. Frankly, I don't really care how the rain looks as long as it's fitting and actually affects handling.
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Has there ever been a racing game where rain doesn't affect handling? Also, the video was more about atmospheric simulation than just rain.
Pharaoh 117
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I don't know man, maybe PD can achieve that. They always manage to get more from the same hardware, even if they do some corner cutting to get there.
I can't think of a racer that has wet weather affect the handling realistically. In my experience with GT5, FH2, and DC the rain seems to just universally lower the grip on the tires. Hitting puddles doesn't appear to make a difference when it should cause hydroplaning/reduce the speed of the tire(s) pretty suddenly.
Whitman's Ghost
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As a DC graphic whore and PC enthusiast I will admit GT6 is some amazing shit going on for the hardware. Dear god.
TheAdmiester
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They all have, but none have ever felt right besides PGR4, despite that being an arcade racer. The track would basically become flooded and your car could catch onto big puddles and throw you off.
In the second sentence, Dan has always been respectful to PD but you have to admit that Gran Turismo has become a stagnate series. Honestly FM is starting to also, hopefully that changes with Forza 6.
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