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This thread has succeeded in making me want a new... Banjo-Kazooie game.
This thread has succeeded in making me want a new... Banjo-Kazooie game.
This thread has succeeded in making me want a new... Banjo-Kazooie game.
Surprised no one has posted this yet. A user has tweeted Sakurai requesting Geno,Issac, and Mega Man. Sakurai actually replied with what translates to "2 out of 3".
Here's a link to the blog post
Geno please<3
I always assumed she was translating those into her language. The space pirates in the entire trilogy never spoke the same language as samus it was all just roars and growls.I dunno, having space pirates speak differently than Samus would also fuck up their best characterization, the journal entries in Prime.
The Power Suit can translate ancient writings in a dead language in about as much time as it takes for it to say "Recorded to logbook". I'm sure it can handle realtime translation of Space Pirate language. It would be something that would be smart for Samus to have installed, even if it didn't come as standard.I always assumed she was translating those into her language. The space pirates in the entire trilogy never spoke the same language as samus it was all just roars and growls.
You would've thought but I think retro still wanted to give off the all alone vibe. Technology should be capable of translating on the spot but it would take away from the atmosphere and the plot would start to fall apart if samus and space pirates could speak to each other.The Power Suit can translate ancient writings in a dead language in about as much time as it takes for it to say "Recorded to logbook". I'm sure it can handle realtime translation of Space Pirate language. It would be something that would be smart for Samus to have installed, even if it didn't come as standard.
He didn't make it into Melee simply because Nintendo then hadn't even considered the option of putting in non first-party characters. Chances are if Hideo Kojima hadn't asked about getting Snake into Melee (though he was too late), we likely wouldn't have had any third-party characters in Brawl at all. After all, Sakurai has said that they never approached other developers for their characters; they waited to be approached.
The proximity mine and cloaking devices may have been nods to Rare (I think Rare were even credited for one or both of them in Melee's credits), but there's a big difference between relatively generic items and playable characters.
Nintendo published and heavily promoted the Banjo series throughout the N64's life. I'd hardly call him a third-party character in the same way that Snake and Sonic were. In a world where MS never bought Rare and the relationship between Rare and Nintendo sayed the same as it was during the SNES/N64 era, but Kojima never introduced the concept of third-party to Sakurai, Banjo still would've been a shoe-in for Brawl.
I don't understand what you're trying to argue, because it doesn't contradict anything I said. I never said Banjo was a third-party character (he was a second-party character), and I specifically said Banjo would have been first in line for Brawl had Microsoft not bought Rare.
That post you quoted was in response to somebody saying Banjo should have been in Melee.
I was arguing against the "Nintendo hadn't considered putting in non-first-party characters" line.
For all intents and purposes, Banjo was a first-party character before the MS sale. Maybe he didn't get into Melee because they knew Rare's future and Nintendo's claim on Banjo were in limbo, maybe because he'd only had one game when it started development, maybe he just didn't make the cut (the only non-clone characters he really even could have taken the place of were Ice Climbers or G&W; everyone else is pretty much necessary, and those two had unique gimmicks).
It wasn't because they hadn't yet considered the option of putting in non-first-party characters.
pokemon situation is complicated. from what i understand, nintendo essentially own 2/3rds of pokemon (since creatures own 1/3rd, and they are a nintendo subsidiary) but the main games are developed by a third party.
Also I find it hard to believe Sakurai would tweet something spoilerish like that in the first place.
And more obviously only delusional Geno fans would go to such lengths to try and confirm him being in the game.
pokemon situation is complicated. from what i understand, nintendo essentially own 2/3rds of pokemon (since creatures own 1/3rd, and they are a nintendo subsidiary) but the main games are developed by a third party.
I hate the Smash Cycle, but I've changed my tune on Ridley. So yeah.
I've always agreed with the "they shrunk Bowser, so they can shrink Ridley" argument without actually looking into it, but after curiosity got the better of me, I was somewhat surprised to find out that Bowser had actually been Smash Bros.-sized until Super Mario 64; that's over a decade of the character appearing only marginally taller than Mario. By comparison, Ridley towers over Samus in all of his appearances, with the exception of the original Metroid (and that's only due to graphical limitations -- even Kraid is tiny).
Bowser works in Smash Bros.
but a Charizard-sized Ridley now strikes me as comical. Samus is supposed to fit in the palm of his hand.
I don't know. Coupled with Sakurai's "that would be pretty impossible" comment and relegating two versions of Ridley to bosses in Brawl, I'm not so sure if the thought of including Ridley as a playable character has seriously crossed Sakurai's mind. He wanted to include a second Metroid rep in Brawl, and Zero Suit Samus was the best that he could come up with (over Ridley).
Good notes, but what about pikmin's Olimar and Kirby?
Second-party. But basically this, yeah. Nintendo I think are pretty much free to use Pokemon whenever they want, course.
Yeah, not to mention that in the 3D games, Mario could fit in the palm of Bowser's hand (SM64, Sunshine).Good notes, but what about pikmin's Olimar and Kirby?
old new rare is dead. you don't want a banjo from new new rare.
Yeah, not to mention that in the 3D games, Mario could fit in the palm of Bowser's hand (SM64, Sunshine).
You missed this:I hate the Smash Cycle, but I've changed my tune on Ridley. So yeah.
I've always agreed with the "they shrunk Bowser, so they can shrink Ridley" argument without actually looking into it, but after curiosity got the better of me, I was somewhat surprised to find out that Bowser had actually been Smash Bros.-sized until Super Mario 64; that's over a decade of the character appearing only marginally taller than Mario. By comparison, Ridley towers over Samus in all of his appearances, with the exception of the original Metroid (and that's only due to graphical limitations -- even Kraid is tiny).
Bowser works in Smash Bros.…
…but a Charizard-sized Ridley now strikes me as comical. Samus is supposed to fit in the palm of his hand.
I don't know. Coupled with Sakurai's "that would be pretty impossible" comment and relegating two versions of Ridley to bosses in Brawl, I'm not so sure if the thought of including Ridley as a playable character has seriously crossed Sakurai's mind. He wanted to include a second Metroid rep in Brawl, and Zero Suit Samus was the best that he could come up with (over Ridley).
You missed this:
Sure you mentioned them but the pics mean something .
Man if Ridley is in this new one, I hope to god he doesn't look like he did in Other M.
I think the point is that, within the context of Mario games, Bowser is sized to whatever the heck size suits the game. Within the context of Metroid games, however, Ridley is consistently depicted as enormous save for his appearance in the original which has been overwritten in canon and also depicted Kraid (Kraid) as approximately Samus sized as well.
Canon doesn't matter at all in Smash Bros. And if Bowser can get away with changing his size drastically from game to game, so can Ridley.I think the point is that, within the context of Mario games, Bowser is sized to whatever the heck size suits the game. Within the context of Metroid games, however, Ridley is consistently depicted as enormous save for his appearance in the original which has been overwritten in canon and also depicted Kraid (Kraid) as approximately Samus sized as well.
This. That's what I'm afraid of. That Ridley looks like poop.
Canon doesn't matter at all in Smash Bros. And if Bowser can get away with changing his size drastically from game to game, so can Ridley.
Don't worry we can get the second form Ridley from Other M since the size is more reasonable, the one that pins you down leading to quite possibly the most annoying part of the game with the first person tail stabbing, it certainly stopped my hard mode run.
Don't worry we can get the second form Ridley from Other M since the size is more reasonable, the one that pins you down leading to quite possibly the most annoying part of the game with the first person tail stabbing, it certainly stopped my hard mode run.
Canon must mean something, considering rough character sizes compared to characters from their own universes are depicted as somewhat correct (Bowser isn't as short as Mario is, Charizard is noticeably bigger than Squirtle, etc.).
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mewtwo wasn't really enormous next to pikachu though, was he?
mewtwo wasn't really enormous next o pikachu though, was he?
El Poco Loco is even uglier then Ridley is.
Haha, he looks even dumber in that form.
I did think baby Ridley was cute though, I guess that's what they were going for. :>
sakurai should just add BABY RIDLEY.
everyone seems to forget this ridley from SSBM.
so yeah Sakurai can shrink him down.
Haha, he looks even dumber in that form.
I did think baby Ridley was cute though, I guess that's what they were going for. :>