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[Nocturnowl]

Objectively, no he's actually a good character even in casual play

But I don't like playing as him so NUH-UH.

The sad thing about Simon Belmont is that even though I don't mind him I like other main characters like Alucard, Shanoa, Soma and Trevor much more, i'm not really one for Simon's barbarian style look.
I still demand a CV rep though, just thing of the awesome stage and music selection.

 

[Galang]

There's too many awesome Pokemon to represented, so I'd love Jigglypuff to be axed in favour of something better. Most hated character in the game...

 

[Red Arremer]

I still won't ever understand why the "Castlevania is made by Capcom herpderp" is still so popular, and whenever I see someone use it, I'm not sure whether they are using it, or actually don't know that Konami made Castlevania.

 

[Kokonoe]

I still won't ever understand why the "Castlevania is made by Capcom herpderp" is still so popular, and whenever I see someone use it, I'm not sure whether they are using it, or actually don't know that Konami made Castlevania.

I guess a lot of people who don't pay attention mistake them for each other because their games before were similar in style.

 

[Nocturnowl]

I still won't ever understand why the "Castlevania is made by Capcom herpderp" is still so popular, and whenever I see someone use it, I'm not sure whether they are using it, or actually don't know that Konami made Castlevania.

probably my least favourite gaf joke because put bluntly it's not even funny anyway.
Well to me anyway.

 

[Boss Doggie]

You should watch the Lucario movie if that is what you dislike in characters.

He wasn't angsty there. He was tsundere.

Clone angst is one of the terrible things I've ever read in fiction.

There's too many awesome Pokemon to represented, so I'd love Jigglypuff to be axed in favour of something better. Most hated character in the game...

wat

she's like, loved to death in Melee and 64

 

[Kokonoe]

I don't know, Simon's 16 bit style was pretty good. Something just seems really off about this design.

I'd probably call it Simon Belonetta

He wasn't angsty there. He was tsundere.

Clone angst is one of the terrible things I've ever read in fiction.

We'll have to agree to disagree because although the style in which the events take place are different, the same emotions are still being displayed almost exactly in a similar manner. The only difference is one is written as a villain and the other is not.

 

[Boss Doggie]

We'll have to agree to disagree because although the style in which the events take place are different, the same emotions are still being displayed almost exactly in a similar manner. The only difference is one is written as a villain and the other is not.

He was tsundere because he wanted to know what the hell happened to his master for reals, his grumpy attitude fits the tsundereness. He wasn't contemplating his navel.

I mean, Mewtwo isn't "it's not like I wuv you!"

 

[Exterminieren]

I feel this is the bit where I should stick my head in and say they shouldn't take Lucario out.

Because seriously, guys, they shouldn't take Lucario out.

 

[Boss Doggie]

btw kamiya used his mind powers regarding smash and bayo

 

[Kokonoe]

He was tsundere because he wanted to know what the hell happened to his master for reals, his grumpy attitude fits the tsundereness. He wasn't contemplating his navel.

I mean, Mewtwo isn't "it's not like I wuv you!"

They are both showing a wall that's built up from pain, so they are expressing themselves in a negative way. Being built and lab tested as merely a weapon is much different than losing a partner, so it makes perfect sense why Mewtwo was as he was. Lucario's purpose was his partner, Mewtwo didn't have a purpose besides what they were trying to use him as so that's what he became.

If you've seen the second movie, you see Mewtwo in the same light as Lucario. It's the same Mewtwo you see at the end of the first movie. Their personalities are different, but they share similar traits.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

I feel this is the bit where I should stick my head in and say they shouldn't take Lucario out.

Because seriously, guys, they shouldn't take Lucario out.

True dat. Lucario is one of my top 3 characters in the game.

 

[Wichu]

I feel this is the bit where I should stick my head in and say they shouldn't take Lucario out.

Because seriously, guys, they shouldn't take Lucario out.

Lucario should stay.

Spoiler

And reveal itself as a Zoroark when it takes damage

I'm siding with Team Scrafty as to 5th gen Pokémon. It's not going to happen, but it would be awesome.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

Lucario should stay.

Spoiler

And reveal itself as a Zoroark when it takes damage

I'm siding with Team Scrafty as to 5th gen Pokémon. It's not going to happen, but it would be awesome.

 

[Nocturnowl]

Simon Belonetta is still slightly preferable to Conan the Belmont/Simon the barbarian.

Reporting in for unlikely Team Krokorok, did he get anime popularity? he better have, that'll get you in.

 

[Kokonoe]

I use to use Lucario, but like Metaknight I wasn't able to use him that effectively as I'm sure there is a specific competitive way you have to use them and I don't particularly play competitively. I did like the Kamehameha, though.

 

[Boss Doggie]

They are both showing a wall that's built up from pain, so they are expressing themselves in a negative way. Being built and lab tested as merely a weapon is much different than losing a partner, so it makes perfect sense why Mewtwo was as he was. Lucario's purpose was his partner, Mewtwo didn't have a purpose besides what they were trying to use him as so that's what he became.

If you've seen the second movie, you see Mewtwo in the same light as Lucario. It's the same Mewtwo you see at the end of the first movie. Their personalities are different, but they share similar traits.

Oh I've seen the second movie. He wasn't as angsty as in the first film but in the second movie he suffers from navel problems. He should check that out.

Lucario was definitely angry at his master but he wasn't angsty about it - most of the focus on the plot was more of him being tsundere and that whiny brat from advanced generation trying to remove the tsundere-ness.

Simon Belonetta is still slightly preferable to Conan the Belmont/Simon the barbarian.

Reporting in for unlikely Team Krokorok, did he get anime popularity? he better have, that'll get you in.

Simon stripping as his power ups?

 

[Shadow Hog]

If we were to ever receive a character from Konami, my clear choice would be

Spoiler

Atem/Yugi

Alucard. Richter and Shanoa are good choices as well, as is classic Simon Belmont.

If we were ever to receive a character from Konami, my choice would be Solid Snake.

Oh wait.

Spoiler

I'd totally go for a Belmont, though. Maybe Soma, Shanoa, Alucard or one of the Morrises in a pinch.

 

[Nocturnowl]

Simon stripping as his power ups?

He grew his luxurious hair out for those climax attacks.

 

[Kokonoe]

Zoroark isn't bad, but Lucario is much better.

 

[BGBW]

Stunfisk is better than them both.

 

[Wichu]

Reporting in for unlikely Team Krokorok, did he get anime popularity? he better have, that'll get you in.

Smash Bros does actually seem to be inspired by the Pokémon anime more than the games. The main one is Pokémon saying their names rather than making the animal-like grunts they do in the games, but you also have stuff like the games not containing huge stadium-like areas (which are common in the anime), and the Melee Pokémon Stadium music and anime arrangement of the Pokémon theme being very similar.

 

[Kokonoe]

Dunsparce GAF represent.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Smash Bros does actually seem to be inspired by the Pokémon anime more than the games. The main one is Pokémon saying their names rather than making the animal-like grunts they do in the games, but you also have stuff like the games not containing huge stadium-like areas (which are common in the anime), and the Melee Pokémon Stadium music and anime arrangement of the Pokémon theme being very similar.

Not true at all, otherwise Jiggly would be kicked off for being irrelevant, and shit like "Ivysaur shouldn't be there because she didn't appear in the anime" happens

It is essentially its own "theme". Animal calling is not limited to the anime. Stadium area is pretty much found in other games (and fits the stage design of Smash) and the arrangement is actually found in the games.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Also, I don't think the Smash 64 stage reminds me very much of the anime.

(But then I haven't watched the anime in years.)

 

[Nocturnowl]

Not true at all, otherwise Jiggly would be kicked off for being irrelevant, and shit like "Ivysaur shouldn't be there because she didn't appear in the anime" happens

It is essentially its own "theme". Animal calling is not limited to the anime. Stadium area is pretty much found in other games (and fits the stage design of Smash) and the arrangement is actually found in the games.

I'd say it has more pull than you're downplaying, aside from the using their own names thing Mewtwo and Lucario in particular have their more vocal grunts and even voiced in Lucario's case, that and he jumps around being captain aura and firing out a freaking beam for his final smash.
Lucario is so anime, he revels in his aura animeness which is totally a real word.

 

[Wichu]

Not true at all, otherwise Jiggly would be kicked off for being irrelevant, and shit like "Ivysaur shouldn't be there because she didn't appear in the anime" happens

It is essentially its own "theme". Animal calling is not limited to the anime. Stadium area is pretty much found in other games (and fits the stage design of Smash) and the arrangement is actually found in the games.

Wasn't Jigglypuff in something like half the episodes from the first season? Sure, Pokémon say their names in non-anime media, but in the main series games they don't (with an exception for Pikachu). I'll give you that point (and the stadium point) seeing as they could be representing the spin-offs.

Which game is the arrangement in? Structurally, it's the version from R/B, but obviously the instrumentation is different. FR/LG had different instrumentation yet again, and the other games have different arrangements. I'm pretty sure the instrumentations of the anime version and the Melee version are nearly identical.

EDIT: Doesn't Lucario speak in his movie, too?

 

[Kokonoe]

Wasn't Jigglypuff in something like half the episodes from the first season? Sure, Pokémon say their names in non-anime media, but in the main series games they don't (with an exception for Pikachu). I'll give you that point (and the stadium point) seeing as they could be representing the spin-offs.

Which game is the arrangement in? Structurally, it's the version from R/B, but obviously the instrumentation is different. FR/LG had different instrumentation yet again, and the other games have different arrangements. I'm pretty sure the instrumentations of the anime version and the Melee version are nearly identical.

EDIT: Doesn't Lucario speak in his movie, too?

He does. They also go out of their way to talk about the "aura" as well.

Also Mewtwo's absence in Brawl is a reference to the first movie where he made everyone on the development team forget he existed.

-clap-

 

[BGBW]

Also Mewtwo's absence in Brawl is a reference to the first movie where he made everyone on the development team forget he existed.

 

[Nocturnowl]

Also Mewtwo's absence in Brawl is a reference to the first movie where he made everyone on the development team forget he existed.

So SSB4 could be like the Mewtwo Returns situation, Mewtwo to come back to the roster wearing some scrappy hood thing.

 

[Kokonoe]

So SSB4 could be like the Mewtwo Returns situation, Mewtwo to come back to the roster wearing some scrappy hood thing.

It's called style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxbEoUAqtAs

 

[Boss Doggie]

Oh yeah, I agree that Lucario is based mostly on the movie incarnation (iirc it was the recent pokemon thing). But otherwise I stand by my post.

 

[BGBW]

So SSB4 could be like the Mewtwo Returns situation, Mewtwo to come back to the roster wearing some scrappy hood thing.

And like the movie he'll bring a bunch of clones with him.

 

[Nocturnowl]

It's called style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxbEoUAqtAs

I like Mewtwo but he looks like a goof in that cape.

Oh yeah, I agree that Lucario is based mostly on the movie incarnation (iirc it was the recent pokemon thing). But otherwise I stand by my post.

So if I get Krokorok it'll be Sunglasses Krokorok, I could deal with this.

And like the movie he'll bring a bunch of clones with him.

It makes perfect sense, plus he took the clones with him after melee which I why they weren't in brawl, this is some deep stuff right here.

 

[Kokonoe]

I like Mewtwo but he looks like a goof in that cape.

I forgot about the hat, I prefer it like this.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Mewtwo's navel must be pretty clean from all that contemplating.

 

[Kokonoe]

Mewtwo's navel must be pretty clean from all that contemplating.

To be honest, I haven't really understood what you were referring to when you kept mentioning this. What are you referring to?

 

[Boss Doggie]

The navel joke is more about the navel being the part where the umbilical cord used to be. It signifies something about contemplation about one's origin and existence, and its purpose. It's a common, predictable story on clone characters. Sometimes even have a dash of angst.

I hate tropes but it explains it easily: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ContemplateOurNavels

 

[KevinCow]

Amazing. You guys have found a new spin on the clones bitching part of the Smash cycle.

 

[Anth0ny]

Mewtwo is shitty, why you want him back

nope

There's too many awesome Pokemon to represented, so I'd love Jigglypuff to be axed in favour of something better. Most hated character in the game...

NOPE

 

[Murrah]

Jigglypuff will never die you fools

Though I agree they went overboard with gen 1 reps. Get rid of pokemon trainer/replace them with different pokemon fine (and that's coming from skmeone whose favorite pokemon is Charizard), but Jigglypuff is too ingrained in Smash for me now to be ok with getting rid of her. It'd be like getting rid of Captain Falcon or Ness just because

 

[Shadow Hog]

Jigglypuff will never die you fools

Dead she is the life, dig into the skin
Knuckle crack the bone, 21 to win
Dead she is the dog, hound of hell you cry
Devil on your back, she can never die

Dig through the ditches,
And burn through the witches
She slams in the back of her
Dragula

Dig through the ditches,
And burn through the witches
She slams in the back of her
Dragula

 

[Kokonoe]

If it was Charizard, Bulbasaur, and Wartortle, that would have been absolutely awesome.

 

[Nocturnowl]

If it was Charizard, Bulbasaur, and Wartortle, that would have been absolutely awesome.

Charmeleon and whatever combination of the rest, I would weep tears of joy. Unfortunately Charizard is like one of the most beloved pokemon of all so that ain't ever happening.

 

[BGBW]

I blame the TCG.

 

[Kokonoe]

This is why everyone is fond of Charizard.

 

[GamerSoul]

In all honesty, Lucario isn't that special in Smash. He's a floaty character in a floaty game. I don't really care about his return. The only cool thing he does is his kamehameha FS.

This is why everyone is fond of Charizard.

hah, true. His match vs Blaziken in that one johto league episode was probably if not more epic.

 

[BGBW]

Eh. My Blastoise beat Blaine with its first move. Ash ain't got nuttin' on me.

 

[Murrah]

Dead she is the life, dig into the skin
Knuckle crack the bone, 21 to win
Dead she is the dog, hound of hell you cry
Devil on your back, she can never die

Dig through the ditches,
And burn through the witches
She slams in the back of her
Dragula

Dig through the ditches,
And burn through the witches
She slams in the back of her
Dragula

This is the most appropriate response to anything I've ever seen

This is why everyone is fond of Charizard.

Based on bombass youtube videos I nominate chill as fuck Slowking. Just look at him wave at Seel with that dreamy filter

 

[Chet Rippo]

This is why everyone is fond of Charizard.

People were fond of Charizard long before then.