IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
WOW @ story mode. I really like the idea, but I hope that none of them are huge spoiler for Kid Icarus for myself. I am still waiting for specific color 3DS XL to buy.
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WOW @ story mode. I really like the idea, but I hope that none of them are huge spoiler for Kid Icarus for myself. I am still waiting for specific color 3DS XL to buy.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Oh...well, all I mentioned was the name of some characters. I don't think it will spoil anything though for you.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Good, I was afraid that you might steal some idea from Kid Icarus UpRising where Medusa actually helped Pit out against Hades in the game..
I'm aware of Hade, Medusa, Marcus and that elemental girl, but that's all spoilers I know so far.
I already got all trophies in Melee and Brawl, but one trophy was very challenging in melee. Diskun trophy, where you have to clear one of mode without getting any damage.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
To be fair, only Mario, Zelda and Ice Climbers felt like adventure in Melee.
The rest are just "lol fight this guy but with gimmicks".
The rest are just "lol fight this guy but with gimmicks".
Exactly why Adventure Mode sucked so much. SSE had the right idea but executed so boringly. What a shame. If they ever try another adventure mode in 4, they better get it right this time.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
I think each character should get rivals in classic mode
Like, right before Master Hand Link fights Ganondorf and there is a nice little cutscene.
But that would take a shitload of work for every character so no ;__;
Like, right before Master Hand Link fights Ganondorf and there is a nice little cutscene.
But that would take a shitload of work for every character so no ;__;
v_v Atleast make it more interesting all throughout.
Same, I think that would be easier to exand on than SSE.
Very nice idea. This is kinda what I want in terms of character scenarios and story plot. I can imagine something in that nature happening where the villains form a League of Extraordinary Baddies. I would love more interactions and scenarios between the Nintendo characters. Forget the generic enemy crap. I think a scenario where Syrup and Toon Link meet on the open sea would be pretty awesome. Or Falcon teaming up with Samus in a space setting. I need stuff like that.
And I wouldn't put it passed Sakurai to put his new baby Pit on center stage for all to see.
They have two chances to get it right so we'll see.
SSE is a shitload of work, imo. Besides, in PSAS they look very cheap, with no substance.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I loved Uprising but making a SSE sequel also a sequel to that game's plot would be a bad idea in my opinion, if only because it'd fuel even more fire to the SAKURAI PLAYS FAVORITES complaints. Maybe not an all new villain since Taboo was kind of shit and the new enemies had atrocious designs, but I nice medium between Mario/Zelda/Kirby/misc. Pokemon and other enemies would obviously be preferable.
The same writing and character interactions on the other hand would be amazing. Obviously not everybody should talk non-stop but for those it'd be applicable for it could wind up elevating the story way above the original game's somewhat confusing narrative. Besides the Kid Icarus cast I'm mainly looking at Star Fox, Metal Gear and to a lesser extent Mario, Kirby, F-Zero and Sonic characters providing some entertaining conversations amongst each other.
The same writing and character interactions on the other hand would be amazing. Obviously not everybody should talk non-stop but for those it'd be applicable for it could wind up elevating the story way above the original game's somewhat confusing narrative. Besides the Kid Icarus cast I'm mainly looking at Star Fox, Metal Gear and to a lesser extent Mario, Kirby, F-Zero and Sonic characters providing some entertaining conversations amongst each other.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I know it may be very early for me to do this but I'm very serious about this game. I'm going to call shotgun for SSB4 /OT/ (Both - Wii U and 3DS)
Dammit, Heath! I was interested in it too.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yes, you can. I have seen it happened in other thread. I think MVC3 is one of them.
I'm sorry about shotgun, but I really want SSB4 /OT/ to be my first OT that I create. However I can't able to do OT due to time constrict or any situation then you will be person to take over.
I call shotgun for the competitive SSB4 thread
RULEZ:
1. no outside food
2. only cools kids allowed
3. no items
4. only good stages
5. no 3ds talk allowed who teh fuck wants to play smash with that shitty circle pad
6. NO GIRLZ ALLOWED
prepare your friendcodes
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Erm? That's what /OT/ for.
If you want example, then look at Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom /OT/, Street Fighter vs Tekken /OT/ and Super Street Fighter 4 /OT/. There are competitive chats and discussion in the Official Thread, so I don't see any point to make second thread based on Competitive. Also I planned to include list of friend codes in /OT/.
Unless you want to host a tournament for SSB4 then be my guest. I would be eager to join.
Nocturnowl
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I'm up for giving the reigns of the thread to IntelliHeath, though you could maybe throw one of them aside for someone else.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
You are right that it wouldn't be fair for me to snatch both but I'm definitely hyped for this game. I preferred to provide OT for Competitive Multiplayer SSB4, which is more likely to be Wii U. So I am going to keep SSB4 Wii U, and put SSB 3DS up in the air. Only if they are completely different game.
I know that they mentioned that SSB 3DS would focused on single player, awhile Wii U is catering to multiplayers. Just that I assumed they might changed their plan and go with Wii U and 3DS would be bundled together to push for Wii U to 3DS connectivity (just like Sony Battle Royale PS3/Vita), but I could be wrong.
Just that I preferred Competitive Multiplayer SSB4, which is more likely to be Wii U.
Shadow Hog
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I thought SSE's problem was that virtually none of the levels had any character. Generic stadium. Generic cloud world. Generic jungle. Generic ghost town. Generic desert. Generic castle. Generic sci-fi lab. Halberd (odd man out). Generic spooky other-worldly bad guy dimension. If it weren't for the (rather basic) plot to try and tie it all together, it wouldn't even really be worth bothering with. That it goes on for several hours didn't help its case any.
Adventure Mode's worlds were at least heavily based on actual Nintendo properties. You run through the Mushroom Kingdom. You're going through some catacombs in Hyrule. You're escaping Zebes before it goes kablooey. You're dodging cars during an actual F-Zero race. I missed stuff like that in SSE.
Red Arremer
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Don't forget generic enemies with a handful of exceptions (koopas and goombas are the only ones I actually remember), and 3 or so generic bosses.
The only reason for me to play through it was the neat cutscenes and unlocking the characters.
Don't forget generic enemies with a handful of exceptions (koopas and goombas are the only ones I actually remember), and 3 or so generic bosses.
The only reason for me to play through it was the neat cutscenes and unlocking the characters.
Nocturnowl
Member
That's a valid point, we'll have to wait and see what direction the 3DS game goes in first.
And while i'm sure i've said this before i'll shock everyone again, while suffering from generic settings and such I did enjoy SSE, it's like playing a charm lacking Kirby game with other characters being like the various powers which isn't exactly praise but it's fun enough.
A mix of SSE and Adventure is the way forward.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah. I'm still waiting to hear something from Anthony. To having SSB4 OT and SSB4 Completive thread is just ridiculous, in my opinion because they essentially are same thing. Also UMVC3, SkullGirls, MK9, SFxTK and fighting communities usually don't split into two threads.
i was kidding
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
My joke/sarcasm sensor isn't working, so I'm sorry. *ashamed*
The biggest problem for me was how boring the levels were. They were kind of too slow for my liking.
But yeah, the generic shit is the 2nd biggest problem. I hope they address both.
Well said, the team needs to stick with Nintendo worlds or at least attempt to give their unique worlds some character. It seems like the environments in SSE were purposefully designed to be as generic as possible. The Smash controls were also a bit iffy in platforming environments; fine with Melee because the stages were pretty short, but in SSE it just got tedious.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
That's why I think the Aurum thing I mentioned would be cool...they could basically construct a mish-mash of Nintendo Worlds to explore in the Adventure Mode.
Like Mushroom Kingdom mixed with DK Jungle, so all the little Toad Houses would be situated among the giant jungle trees and look like amanita mushrooms, and the F-Zero racetrack being built atop the Chozo Ruins.
Like Mushroom Kingdom mixed with DK Jungle, so all the little Toad Houses would be situated among the giant jungle trees and look like amanita mushrooms, and the F-Zero racetrack being built atop the Chozo Ruins.
Nocturnowl
Member
I call dibs on the Donkey Kong Country Remains thread, it has to exist at some point!
Ashera's Tower from Fire Emblem combined with the Skyworld from Kid Icarus!
PLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEE
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm very curious how moderators would able to handle that. I wouldn't be surprise if moderator decided to force us to deal with Dojo Thread only, and new thread for new characters. Or just Dojo Thread.
My BODY is ready!
Psssh, I know yall are jabbing me right now with early shotgun. Come on, the game haven't confirmed yet awhile SSB4 have been for a year and half.
Almost simliar to my idea, I was thinking of SkyWorld with Golden Sun's Venus Lighthouse.
Nocturnowl
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No really i'm fine with you calling it now, quite a few big games get their OT's claimed as soon as they're announced, see E3 time for more examples of this.Psssh, I know yall are jabbing me right now with early shotgun. Come on, the game haven't confirmed yet awhile SSB4 have been for a year and half.
Now i'm just saying the next DK thread is mine, all mine!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
HAHA, it's all your. I'm still waiting for them to announce new DKC, and Wii one was pretty interesting and fun.
I think due to the nature that the daily updates are expected a catch all thread would be acceptable in this instance and new threads should be reserved for news not related to the blog. It would be far to messy to have a new thread everyday. Perhaps weekly or monthly summery threads could be posted for those not interested in the main thread.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Or instead of being the same set of stages, just diverge them into multiple paths (i.e. if you go a warp zone in the Mario-themed adventure stage, it'd lead you to a DK stage, while normally playing the stage without the warp zone will lead you to Link's).
With that said people only seem to think of the Mario, Zelda and F-Zero stages in Melee for adventure mode. Most of them really are just Classic mode reskinned (e.g. Star Fox stage and Metroid stage).
But yeah, SSE feels bland, particularly in the OG side of things.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I did think all the SSE Cutscenes were pretty boss.
They should have the team do CG Scenes for Classic Mode, like the opening and ending scenes you have in Arcade Fighters like Street Fighter and Tekken. Make them all "humorous, world-mixing" ones too, like Captain Falcon's can have him racing in the F-Zero Grand Prix against Sonic only to lose at the end when a Blue Shell comes out of nowhere and hits both of them, letting Wario take the win, and like Olimar's can have him and his Pikmin exploring a small garden and coming across a flower, only for it to end up to be a Wiggler who chases him around.
On the gameplay side, I've been thinking about Final Smashes, and I think each version should have their own...the unique thing about the 3DS version is that, unlike the Wii U where not everyone will have a Wii U Tablet and thus be playing on the same screen, everyone will presumably be using their own 3DS, so why not take advantage of that for the 3DS Final Smashes? Have Shulk's Final Smash slow down the game-play on everyone's screen bar the player using Shulk, to mimic his "future-sight" abilities, and Genesect's Final Smash can have the player drawing "Xs" on the bottom of their screen displaying the stage, and then he slashes across that point on the screens of the other players, who won't see it coming since they can't see where the Genesect player sliced the screen.
Wii U could have more "hardcore, balanced" Final Smashes, personally I think it'd be cool if everyone had a Giga Bowser/Wario Man "Smashformation", changing to a different form that roughly plays the same, but is greatly improved making KOs easier, but not guaranteed. Ridley morphs into Meta-Ridley and can fly for an unlimited amount of time, and Olimar's Pikmin all become fully-flowered and powered up, doing more damage and being more resilient to attacks.
They should have the team do CG Scenes for Classic Mode, like the opening and ending scenes you have in Arcade Fighters like Street Fighter and Tekken. Make them all "humorous, world-mixing" ones too, like Captain Falcon's can have him racing in the F-Zero Grand Prix against Sonic only to lose at the end when a Blue Shell comes out of nowhere and hits both of them, letting Wario take the win, and like Olimar's can have him and his Pikmin exploring a small garden and coming across a flower, only for it to end up to be a Wiggler who chases him around.
On the gameplay side, I've been thinking about Final Smashes, and I think each version should have their own...the unique thing about the 3DS version is that, unlike the Wii U where not everyone will have a Wii U Tablet and thus be playing on the same screen, everyone will presumably be using their own 3DS, so why not take advantage of that for the 3DS Final Smashes? Have Shulk's Final Smash slow down the game-play on everyone's screen bar the player using Shulk, to mimic his "future-sight" abilities, and Genesect's Final Smash can have the player drawing "Xs" on the bottom of their screen displaying the stage, and then he slashes across that point on the screens of the other players, who won't see it coming since they can't see where the Genesect player sliced the screen.
Wii U could have more "hardcore, balanced" Final Smashes, personally I think it'd be cool if everyone had a Giga Bowser/Wario Man "Smashformation", changing to a different form that roughly plays the same, but is greatly improved making KOs easier, but not guaranteed. Ridley morphs into Meta-Ridley and can fly for an unlimited amount of time, and Olimar's Pikmin all become fully-flowered and powered up, doing more damage and being more resilient to attacks.
A branching path structure would mean the adventure mode is more condensed (assuming it is linear like Melee's) but allow for variety over multiple playthroughs.
Though saying that is they do increase the roster size I hope they remove the need to play through all modes with all characters.
And for however boss the GCI cutscenes in SSE were, the intro was terrible compared to Melee's. Hopefully we get a decent one again with the WiiU version.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah, Brawl's intro was terrible since it just reused the cutscenes in SSE.
And yeah I'd rather have the length of stages in Mario stage in Melee - not the others though.
And yeah I'd rather have the length of stages in Mario stage in Melee - not the others though.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, It was very disappointing when I saw opening in 2007/2008.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I really hope that Duck Hunt Dog get in.
Chet Rippo
Member
Hahaha, I can't wait for the flood of threads.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm ready for that, but it will be nightmare for moderators.
Also I hope that we would get small reference of this character.
I don't know if I'm going to be happy for the madness this releases or sad that Jiggy won't be around to do the part two to The Real Brawl Thread.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
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