Green Mamba
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Why would Smash turn into a 3D fighter anyway? It's a 2D.
Nocturnowl
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I could pull off a fake on the same level as that in MS Paint.
Green Mamba
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Yeah, the Kid Icarus stage should have Smash Taunts available for the Kid Icarus character(s). Though I think a more randomized set of conversations like the Star Fox ones would be more in line with the loose nature of Uprising's dialogue than individual character discussions like Snake's.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
They need to get back to that Metroid joke.
Green Mamba
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Frigate Orpheon and Green Hill Zone were both good choices to make stages out of in their respective series I felt.
Regarding Kid Icarus stage choices--Palutena's Temple, City of Souls, or an Underworld stage would all be good I think, good representations of the series itself as well, which I feel is something stages should be chosen to represent as well, especially if there ends up being only one new stage for a respective franchise (and no way is Kid Icarus getting two if Kirby got only one in Brawl).
Regarding Kid Icarus stage choices--Palutena's Temple, City of Souls, or an Underworld stage would all be good I think, good representations of the series itself as well, which I feel is something stages should be chosen to represent as well, especially if there ends up being only one new stage for a respective franchise (and no way is Kid Icarus getting two if Kirby got only one in Brawl).
Nocturnowl
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Jungle Hijinx DKCR style, now with a music selection of DK Island Swing Returns and the slightly different version of it from the King of Cling stage and of course the multiple versions of Mine Cart Carnage, capped off with old returning music like Jungle Japes, I can't wait!
While listening to one of the many renditions of Inside the Castle Walls I pondered to myself what the most commonly reoccurring themes from Nintendo games.
It's not fair to say that Sakurai "just plays the first level and calls it a day"; it just so happens that many of the most memorable stages in games are either at the very beginning or at the very end. I've actually heard a few different people in the industry commend Sakurai for his "encyclopedic" video game knowledge.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I really hope that Sakurai would put "Smash Taunt" in Kid Icarus stage because it would be awesome.
I know it's not official date but it's first day of E3. Basically 10 more days until our countdown become double digits.
I know it's not official date but it's first day of E3. Basically 10 more days until our countdown become double digits.
Shadow Hog
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Yeah, I'm hardpressed to say "first level and call it a day" when you have stages based on content fairly far into the games in question, like Great Bay (which is, like, the third region you visit in Majora's Mask), Rainbow Road (last main SM64 stage, going purely by stage numbers), Fourside, New Pork City (okay I don't know how far into each respective Mother game those last two are, but they're definitely not the first stage), Brinstar Depths (Kraid's Lair takes a decent amount of time to reach), etc.
Although if he wants to choose some more esoteric stages, instead of going for Green Hill Zone, go for a Generations-style Planet Wisp, where it feels more like Scrap Brain/Metallic Madness, but is unmistakably the source material in look. That'd be a fun stage, what with all those sawblades.
Although if he wants to choose some more esoteric stages, instead of going for Green Hill Zone, go for a Generations-style Planet Wisp, where it feels more like Scrap Brain/Metallic Madness, but is unmistakably the source material in look. That'd be a fun stage, what with all those sawblades.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Who wants to fight in a Pokemon stage being made of Zekrom and Reshiram who are fighting?
peanutbutterlatte
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Spear Pillar stage was fairly irritating and awesome at the same time, so perhaps.
Just came across this piece of dialogue in Kid Icarus which I found pretty funny too;
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
No not spear pillar. I'm thinking of actually using Reshiram and Zekrom as the stage who are fighting, with some floating debris as additional platforms.
And the only bad Spear Pillar mon was Palkia.
peanutbutterlatte
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Ahh, Poke-Floats style?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah except the stage has fighting each other.
Would rather have it be Mew and Mewtwo.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That would be boring.
Red Arremer
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But there isn't a Rainbow Road stage ...? The Mario Kart stage is Mario Circuit.
Shadow Hog
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*Rainbow Ride
Red Arremer
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Oh. Yeah, Rainbow Ride is pretty far into SM64. 
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I would love to see new Poke Float stage.
Shadow Hog
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That said, a Rainbow Road stage would be pretty nifty, I suppose - although I'm struggling to think of how, exactly, you'd make one worth playing on. Rainbow Road has some fancy twists and turns in it (unless you're playing the N64 one, in which case it's just friggin' long), but that's about the extent of it, and twists in a track don't really matter in a fighting game.
Red Arremer
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If they use the Rainbow Road from MK7, they could incorporate space objects like planets, moons and asteroids. In one section you drive on Saturn's rings.
Shadow Hog
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Stealth Super Mario Galaxy stage?
Red Arremer
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Yeah I'm pretty sure that MK7 Rainbow Road is an homage to Galaxy.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Someone was talking music earlier and they reminded me... If Star Maze (Super Mario Land 2, original version here) doesn't see itself used in this game, I will be thoroughly disappointed.
RawkHawk2010
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Make it like Big Blue/Aero Dive.
Green Mamba
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Was there any reference to Super Mario Land 2 in Brawl outside of the requisite listing on Wario's trophy?
Choppasmith
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Also needs Palutena's Super Bash Sisters joke too. But speaking of Spear Pillar and Kid Icarus Uprising, I was just thinking how crazy a Chaos Vertex stage in the style of Spear Pillar would be. I'm aware it's very unlikely, it was just a thought.
Shadow Hog
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Eh, I think that's a style of stage best suited for the F-Zero series, not the Mario Kart one.
It's bad enough that they applied it to Delfino Plaza, which is far more static than either series, and didn't really benefit from it like the others did. I kinda wish they found one at least kinda good spot to fight instead of bouncing all over the map; never really feels focused.
Also, the transitions between the three stages of the Fire Emblem castle stage (Castle Siege, was it?) suck. I just never felt any connection between the fight outside the castle, the fight inside the castle, and whatever that volcano world was. Would've been better as three separate stages than one stage with really blurry speed lines teleporting you between them.
SenorArdilla
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Hopefully they'll bring back old stages from the original as well. They were called Past Stages, so it was kind of strange that SSBB didn't have any of the N64 stages.
Nocturnowl
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Choppasmith
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Like I said a couple pages ago, they shouldn't just copy and paste the old original SSB stages directly in. They should be completely redone like the retro courses in MK Wii/7
Shadow Hog
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No, they were called "Mêlée Stages" in Brawl, actually.
And I hope that Past Stages can show up in SP modes next time. Having to use New Pork City if Lucas or Ness showed up when Onett was so so much better really sucked.
If past stages make a return I'd rather they rework them, i.e. N64 stages get a graphical spruce up (see some of the Brawl mods for Hyrule Castle for an example of at least a texture revamp) or as has been mentioned improve on some of the draw backs like restricting the Fire Emblem stage to one level.
Whenever team ness or lucas was the next stage, I just give up since it's too much of a hassle.
And I freaking hate that last stage before master/crazy hand in classic mode when 3 random characters are fought where they just go for the human player instead of each other. Ridiculous.
Shadow Hog
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In a way, it's kind of like Galactus's heralds from MvC3, huh?
SenorArdilla
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Huh. Never noticed that.
On the topic of New Pork City, what don't you like about it? The size? Ultimate Chimera?
Nocturnowl
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I'll happily explain why I think NPC is a pretty awful stage.
- The main platforms and the background don't mesh well at all, nothing feels right visually.
- The actual platform layout is almost random in its placement, it doesn't lend to fun matches either.
- Not only is it too big, it's too open, this leads to the match length often overstaying it's welcome.
The ultimate Chimera is a god send, it helps matches finish quicker if you're lucky.
- The main platforms and the background don't mesh well at all, nothing feels right visually.
- The actual platform layout is almost random in its placement, it doesn't lend to fun matches either.
- Not only is it too big, it's too open, this leads to the match length often overstaying it's welcome.
The ultimate Chimera is a god send, it helps matches finish quicker if you're lucky.
It's too freaking big horridly organized, and it's a chore trying to ko players on it. I like the ultimate chimera tho.
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