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Next Super Smash Bros. discussion thread, Community Edition
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DICKS AHOY
Banned
Probably since Melee was made in 11 months? Only characters I remember being more requested than BK in Japanese character polls done on the original game's Dojo site were heavyhitters like Bowser, Peach and Dedede.
Or maybe the whole Rare buyout thing worked against them (since Rare had been shopping themselves around for years at this point); I know Loveday said awhile ago on Scribes that there were a ton of Rare-related statues in the game including more overt references to Goldeneye and Perfect Dark before suddenly not winding up in the game.
Or maybe the whole Rare buyout thing worked against them (since Rare had been shopping themselves around for years at this point); I know Loveday said awhile ago on Scribes that there were a ton of Rare-related statues in the game including more overt references to Goldeneye and Perfect Dark before suddenly not winding up in the game.
Some of you guys are putting Agent Dark on your list and I must say that would be a crazy ass day if she was ever revealed. Like "is this real life" type stuff.
1)Captain Syrup
2)Lyn
3)Little Mac
4)Takamaru
5)Sami
6)Ray MK
7)Tom Nook
8)Ridley
9)Chrom
Nocturnowl
Member
Joanna Dark would be an amazing addition with the weapons of Perfect Dark, Super Dragon! Reaper Grinder! N Bombs! Combat Boost Final Smash!
And of course Daniel Carrington Assist who does nothing.
And of course Daniel Carrington Assist who does nothing.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Damn, I forget all about him. I would add him as well.
Yeah, I think I can come up with decent move set without real guns since they aren't allowed to be in smash.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Anyway, NINTENDO ONLY REALISTIC WISHLIST OMG
Rosalina
Genesect
Dillon
Mallo
Panther
SA-X (screw Ridley!)
Chrom
Palutena
Shulk
There we go.
Rosalina
Genesect
Dillon
Mallo
Panther
SA-X (screw Ridley!)
Chrom
Palutena
Shulk
There we go.
Nocturnowl
Member
I want to hit people over the head with whatever the hell that thing is used to reload the Cyclone.
RawkHawk2010
Member
I want:
Palutena
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Krystal
Duck Hunt Dog
Lucina
Mii
-Insert 6th Gen Pokemon here-
...and lastly but not leastly...
...RAWK HAWK.
Palutena
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Krystal
Duck Hunt Dog
Lucina
Mii
-Insert 6th Gen Pokemon here-
...and lastly but not leastly...
...RAWK HAWK.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I want:
Palutena
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Krystal
Duck Hunt Dog
Lucina
Mii
-Insert 6th Gen Pokemon here-
...and lastly but not leastly...
...RAWK HAWK.
Bro Fist
Green Mamba
Member
I think you're correct, but it's a bizarre bit of perception clouding the reality of the situation. A new character is a new character, regardless of whether you were told about it before the game was released or not.
Regarding unlockables and secrets I've always felt that avoiding spoilers for a fighting game is just silly and emphasizing really difficult or time consuming unlocks is just bad game design--these are things you do once in a game that should be lasting you many, many, many, many hours. I mean, I unlocked the entirety of Brawl's roster in a approximately a day save for Toon Link, Jigglypuff, and Wolf, and I can't say that diminished my enjoyment of it at all. 99.9% of the time pretty much any Smash fan devotes to Smash is post character unlock anyway (and is true for most fighters in general).
I don't remember where I was going with this, just stating my opinion on the matter.
Sigh if only. If Nintendo were to ever give a western developer like retro studios the go ahead to make another version of smash...then I can see this happening. Heck maybe even if they outsource some of the dlc to retro id like those chances lol
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
But Perfect Dark IP is with Microsoft now.
Characters:
1. Saki (Sin and Punishment)
2. Medusa (Kid Icarus / Kid Icarus Uprising)
3. Pius Augustus (Eternal Darkness)
4. Wes (Pokemon Colosseum)
5. Somebody from Soma Bringer
6. Somebody from Famicom Detective Club
7. Sukapon (Joy Mecha Fight)
8. Training Koma (Jump ____ Stars)
9. Jesus of Nazareth (Time Twist)
Stages
1. EarthBound (Gigya, bound by the Devil's Machine)
2. Battle Clash (Atop a mecha in combat)
3. Rhythm Heaven (Stage changes based on music
4. Nintendo Land (Mixed-up level)
5. Eternal Darkness (Ehn'gha)
6. Pokemon Conquest (Some battlefield)
7. ExciteBots (Any racetrack)
8. Metal Mario's stage (Smash Bros 64 - just because I like them music)
Game sells two copies worldwide. All Japanese-exclusives on the list come out in North America;
I am the only one who buys them. Nintendo goes fourth party, with rumours of going fifth.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Since zombies are all the rage now we should add zombie mode
TheUnsunghero26
Member
Really hoping for some more Donkey Kong Country characters, K.Rool would be awesome.
Nocturnowl
Member
All of my disgust and rage if they did, can't stand Zombies.
They'd be in the new and renamed multi man melee.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I love Pushmo but c'mon guys, Mallo is (awesome) assist trophy tier.
Im pretty sure they wouldnt mind since perfect dark no longer exists to them. Heh but yea you're right.
Diddy Kong
Banned
1. Banjo-Kazooie
2. Bayonetta
3. Bomberman
4. Shulk
5. Dixie Kong
6. King K. Rool
7. Palutena
8. Ridley
9. Geno
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Game should have dual audio as well. I mean, sure, only few characters speak, but still!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Same here. I'm getting tired with those Zombies genres.
Takamaru
Mike Jones
Mega Man
Issac
Neku Sakuraba/Chrono
Daisy
Captain Syrup
Palutena
Medusa
SuperAngelo64
Banned
I just now saw the new design for Mona from Game&Wario. It's pretty awesome, it looks like the artist from Rhythm Heaven.
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/c/c7/Mona2GameWario.png
Mona, Geno, or Megaman.
Any of those three in Smash 4 and I'll be satisfied.
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/c/c7/Mona2GameWario.png
Mona, Geno, or Megaman.
Any of those three in Smash 4 and I'll be satisfied.
Neoriceisgood
Member
That's really cute.
- Felix/Isaac [Golden Sun]
- Alex [Golden Sun]
- Lyndis [Fire Emblem]
- Mewtwo [Pokemon]
- Genesect [Pokemon]
- Shulk [Xenoblade]
- King K. Ruel [Donkey Kong Country]
- Ridley [Metroid]
- Banjo Kazooie
- Mega Man
I know Isaac (or even Matthew) has the best chance of making it into the game, but I like Felix more! I'd love for him to be included as an alternate costume - doesn't matter if they have the same moveset, it actually makes total sense. I'd like this for a fair few characters actually - make Marth/Roy the same character and Chrom/Ike the same. New representation without removing old favourites.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'd laugh if Ridley isn't playable in the game.
Diddy Kong
Banned
I love that a majority of us want Banjo-Kazooie... it's a damn shame we can't have him 
Chet Rippo
Member
They've always been the same artist, but I don't like the Game & Wario art. I mean, what the hell is going on with her arms here?
Fiora (Xenoblade)
Palutena (Kid Icarus)
Hades (Kid Icarus)
Crono (Chrono Trigger)
Neku (The World Ends With You)
Banjo & Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie)
Deoxys (Pokémon)
Mii (Wii)
Guess what my favourite recent games are
Relevant stages:
Junks (Xenoblade)
Skyworld (Kid Icarus) (I know we already have this, but it could use an Uprising redesign)
Time Vortex (Chrono Trigger)
Scramble Crossing (The World Ends With You)
Spiral Mountain (Banjo-Kazooie)
Dragonspiral Tower (Pokémon Black/White)
Wuhu Island (Wii Sports Resort)
Good Egg Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy) because of awesome
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I wish characters interact more than just fighting, like having them ride/piggyback on each other or something.
Super Smash Bros 4
Pegi 16.
Rated M for Mature.
Includes excessive and unnecessary piggybacking.
Nocturnowl
Member
Vs Mitsu-AYAAAAAH!
SenorArdilla
Member
Why not? Link got piggyback rides in SC2 from everyone. He also gave out free spankings.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Logic wasn't screwed just groped vigorously...
Bald Bull
Duck Hunt Dog
Ridley
Captain Syrup
King K. Rool
Medusa
Takamaru
Ashley and Red
Team Koopa Kid (Something similar to how Pokemon Trainer was executed)
I went soft when I realized I ran out of roster slots for Samurai Goroh and Shulk. This list also assumes that Mewtwo is back.
Bald Bull
Duck Hunt Dog
Ridley
Captain Syrup
King K. Rool
Medusa
Takamaru
Ashley and Red
Team Koopa Kid (Something similar to how Pokemon Trainer was executed)
I went soft when I realized I ran out of roster slots for Samurai Goroh and Shulk. This list also assumes that Mewtwo is back.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'd want the reveals to be like fighting games now - actual videos showing them while displaying some moves!
Oh nothing, just piggy-back riding :3
Oh nothing, just piggy-back riding :3
One thing I find strange is that Little Mac has a ton of support (he is virtually tied with K. Rool on Shorts's poll), yet very little vocal support.
The other thing is Palutena. She pretty much shows how much popularity a female character can get even if all the stars align for them. I mean even if the diminished newcomer pool that Smash 4 has, she is overall the seventh most-wanted character for it.
By all the stars aligning I mean:
- Has had a recent game.
- Is largely deemed sexually attractive.
- Undoubtedly very important to her own series.
- Does not have a male counterpart that is seen as a higher priority than her within her own series.
- Is largely seen as bringing something completely different to the table in terms of moveset.
- Not divisive.
Especially in Palutena's case, she has had her game developed by Sakurai, so he is already personally aware of the character.
I mean with all of that Palutena still ranks at number 7 despite her being practically the picture perfect female newcomer. Though to be fair to her, she pretty much has more support than any other "new" character (though technically Palutena was created in 1987, she is basically a new character in terms of support due to her re-design and her vastly fleshed out personality from Uprising, and how basically nearly all of her support grew out from 2012).
Thinking about it all in general, the "wee need moar femalez" crowd is pretty much just a very vocal and loud minority, considering that aside from Palutena, the only other female characters with a large amount of support are Krystal and Dixie Kong, and even those two characters are miles behind Palutena (and a lot of other characters in general).
The "moar femalez" crowd usually does not bring up Dixie Kong (and sometimes not Krystal), but instead characters like Captain Syrup, Mona, Ashley or some sort of female FE character (support is divided for who it should be), and all those characters have far less support than even Dixie Kong (who has less support than Krystal, who has far less support than Palutena).
I just think its funny how depending on how loud people are you would think there exists far more numbers for them than there actually are, or depending on how quiet a character's support base is, their numbers can be vastly underestimated (see Little Mac).
The other thing is Palutena. She pretty much shows how much popularity a female character can get even if all the stars align for them. I mean even if the diminished newcomer pool that Smash 4 has, she is overall the seventh most-wanted character for it.
By all the stars aligning I mean:
- Has had a recent game.
- Is largely deemed sexually attractive.
- Undoubtedly very important to her own series.
- Does not have a male counterpart that is seen as a higher priority than her within her own series.
- Is largely seen as bringing something completely different to the table in terms of moveset.
- Not divisive.
Especially in Palutena's case, she has had her game developed by Sakurai, so he is already personally aware of the character.
I mean with all of that Palutena still ranks at number 7 despite her being practically the picture perfect female newcomer. Though to be fair to her, she pretty much has more support than any other "new" character (though technically Palutena was created in 1987, she is basically a new character in terms of support due to her re-design and her vastly fleshed out personality from Uprising, and how basically nearly all of her support grew out from 2012).
Thinking about it all in general, the "wee need moar femalez" crowd is pretty much just a very vocal and loud minority, considering that aside from Palutena, the only other female characters with a large amount of support are Krystal and Dixie Kong, and even those two characters are miles behind Palutena (and a lot of other characters in general).
The "moar femalez" crowd usually does not bring up Dixie Kong (and sometimes not Krystal), but instead characters like Captain Syrup, Mona, Ashley or some sort of female FE character (support is divided for who it should be), and all those characters have far less support than even Dixie Kong (who has less support than Krystal, who has far less support than Palutena).
I just think its funny how depending on how loud people are you would think there exists far more numbers for them than there actually are, or depending on how quiet a character's support base is, their numbers can be vastly underestimated (see Little Mac).
Just wanna say that "prediction free wishlists" is a great idea.
Paper Mario
Tingle
Ridley
9-Volt
Shulk
Sukapon
Fire Emblem Awakening My Unit
Little Mac
Mega Man
Oh dang, no room for Palutena or Impa. Also huh, looks like there isn't a contender for "Pokemon newcomer" that I'm crazy about yet.
Paper Mario
Tingle
Ridley
9-Volt
Shulk
Sukapon
Fire Emblem Awakening My Unit
Little Mac
Mega Man
Oh dang, no room for Palutena or Impa. Also huh, looks like there isn't a contender for "Pokemon newcomer" that I'm crazy about yet.
Choppasmith
Member
This made me laugh, I always did this playing SC2 on the cube.
Anyway, my "Screw Logic" list :
Ghirahim
Demise
Palutena
Viridi
Hades
Mega Man
Wreck-it Ralph
Lyn
Takamaru
Doesn't really help that I've never played a Fire Emblem game, nor a Pokemon game beyond the first generation but I'm all for a retro character that's also a samurai, and Lyn seems really awesome.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Reps aren't Pokeballs silly
I absolutely agree with this. Cuts are dumb. I mean just look at how high the demand for Mewtwo and Roy to return is (they are far more wanted than any other characters from their respective series as well). Any character that is cut from Brawl, is guaranteed to be among the Top 5 most wanted characters for Smash 5.
Anyway, here is my Top 9 (I am not sure if cut veterans count, but I am going to throw them in anyway):
1. Ridley (main villain for the Metroid series, probably the most important Nintendo character not yet playable in Smash Bros.).
2. Mega Man (probably the one third-party character most synonymous with Nintendo than anything else).
3. Mewtwo (by far the most popular and iconic legendary Pokemon, and overall probably in the Top 3 most popular Pokemon ever.)
4. Roy (one of the most well-received and popular characters in Melee, helped popularize the FE series in the West, still is an iconic face to the FE franchise and most popular lord after Marth and Ike).
5. Little Mac (the main face to a Nintendo franchise that has had five installments to date, and been running since 1984).
6. Palutena (unlike practically every other female character that is not yet playable, she actually is likable and actually important to her franchise).
7. K. Rool (this fat crock has a lot of humor in him and lot to draw from for a moveset).
8. Takamaru (by far the best choice for a retro revival newcomer, and by far the best choice for a katana-user).
9. Toad/Paper Mario (I don't care who, Mario just really needs a newcomer, and both of those characters have very strong merits going for them).
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