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[KevinCow]

Oh yeah. I'm pretty sick of the Brawl theme.

I wish they'd make a bunch of different menu themes, maybe make one based on each series represented, and give them all an equal chance of showing up. I'm pretty sick of both the Melee and Brawl menu themes because I've heard them so damn much.

 

[SmithnCo]

And they better not overuse the main theme like Brawl did.

To their credit I still can't get that damn theme out of my head.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Oh yeah. I'm pretty sick of the Brawl theme.

I wish they'd make a bunch of different menu themes, maybe make one based on each series represented, and give them all an equal chance of showing up. I'm pretty sick of both the Melee and Brawl menu themes because I've heard them so damn much.

Sonic 3&K's file select music would be interesting to see there.

 

[qq more]

Sonic 3&K's file select music would be interesting to see there.

Now I'm going to be very disappointed that this will never happen

Best save data song ever.

 

[Nocturnowl]

To be perfectly honest, I never once thought that Ridley or Goroh would be playable characters. I just figured that the game was showing off where they were coming from with scenes from Samus'/Falcon's games.

(I'm talking about when the footage was first aired, and the game sequence itself, if it wasn't obvious)

Pretty much what I thought as well, except being a lot younger I wasn't wondering about what would be in the game or anything anyway, I just instantly accepted what they showed, Ice Climbers? I don't know who they are but cool!
Melee's roster is all kinds of odd looking back.

And they better not overuse the main theme like Brawl did.

for what it's worth we did get plenty of great remixes of said theme.

The Plain
Boss Battle
Battlefield 2

And so on, menu version is still the best version mind you.
But yes it was certainly overdone, through menu areas alone there must be like 10 different versions, then there's the rest of the game as well.

 

[Joqu]

It may have been overdone, but it still was a damn good theme.

 

[qq more]

I personally find it really evil that they used SEVEN RINGS IN HAND for Sonic's credits theme in Classic Mode. You know, that song that was as overused as Brawl's theme in its respective game.

 

[Gattuso]

im glad brawl let you choose how frequently you wanted to hear something for the menus and stages. some things just got old after awhile of hearing it.

 

[KevinCow]

I personally find it really evil that they used SEVEN RINGS IN HAND for Sonic's credits theme in Classic Mode. You know, that song that was as overused as Brawl's theme in its respective game.

I must have heard the first few seconds of that song at least a hundred times by now, and I still have no idea what he's saying.

That song is so bad though. It's not even so dumb it's fun like Sonic R or the Adventure games. It's just plain bad.

 

[RawkHawk2010]

It's a crime that this didn't get in instead.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Really rough looking footage of SSB4 with hyper realistic graphics and physics just got leaked!

It's a crime that this didn't get in instead.

I still may have felt suckered into buying Secret Rings (first Sonic game I bought since Heroes), but the music was always a guilty pleasure. Bizarre it's used as Sonic's main theme song in Brawl though, beyond the Wii-connection.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Man, I hope Smash 4 has an intro as good as Melee's. Brawl's was disappointing. Just a bunch of SSE clips that didn't even flow with the music.

Totally agreed w intro part. I hope part 4 have very good intro just like melee.

 

[Gattuso]

Really rough looking footage of SSB4 with hyper realistic graphics and physics just got leaked!


I still may have felt suckered into buying Secret Rings (first Sonic game I bought since Heroes), but the music was always a guilty pleasure. Bizarre it's used as Sonic's main theme song in Brawl though, beyond the Wii-connection.

lol Samus got destroyed by ness, that video was pretty good.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

lol Samus got destroyed by ness, that video was pretty good.

I shudder to think how a Brawl version of this video series would work.

Somebody as Wario drives over a guy in a Lucario costume with a motobike, while another time somebody just shoots Lucas in the head pointblank as Snake?

 

[Gattuso]

I shudder to think how a Brawl version of this video series would work.

Somebody as Wario drives over a guy in a Lucario costume with a motobike, while another time somebody just shoots Lucas in the head pointblank as Snake?

but this is brawl enough right?

but now I want to see a full brawl one from them.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

It's a crime that this didn't get in instead.

Levitated Ruins from Secret Rings also rocks

 

[KevinCow]

That was the worst Donkey Kong ever. How can you call yourself DK when you can't even pick up Pikachu?

 

[Boss Doggie]

That was one tacky Samus suit

 

[BGBW]

So do you guys think we will get a real proper trailer this year? Iwata only mentioning screenshots and all that makes me think that the game isn't ready to be shown yet at all.

He said it would be there is image form as opposed to playable form like Mario Kart and 3D Mario. Image form can mean either screenshots or a trailer or even both.

Man, I hope Smash 4 has an intro as good as Melee's. Brawl's was disappointing. Just a bunch of SSE clips that didn't even flow with the music.

I agree. The only good part is the initial pan of characters since that grows as you unlock more. Hey, Soul Caliburs have pretty good intro videos (not played Tekken) so maybe Namco will benefit us in this department.

I personally find it really evil that they used SEVEN RINGS IN HAND for Sonic's credits theme in Classic Mode. You know, that song that was as overused as Brawl's theme in its respective game.

I heard that if you were to collect all the My Music choices from every copy in the world and calculate the average chance for Seven Rings in Hand is would come out as zero.

 

[KevinCow]

Today I realized that if I set my Gamepad in its charging dock and use two classic controllers, I can play two player Injustice on it. So not only can I use it as a localized handheld, I can also use it as essentially a portable TV that I can use anywhere with a table and two power outlets. Well, technically one, but come on, that Gamepad battery is ass.

For this reason, I hope Smash U has off-screen play. Hanging out somewhere and things are boring? Shit, bitches, we playin' Smash!

But where is the TV?

DON'T NEED ONE!

Instant Smash party anywhere.

 

[Red Arremer]

but this is brawl enough right?
-snip-
but now I want to see a full brawl one from them.

Oh man that poor ROB.
They should have given it to me instead of kicking it apart.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Oh man that poor ROB.
They should have given it to me instead of kicking it apart.

That character deserved it. He's a cool retro character but I hate everything about him in Brawl. However I'm supporting him to be in SSB4 because I don't like the idea of getting rid of characters with unique movesets.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

That character deserved it. He's a cool retro character but I hate everything about him in Brawl. However I'm supporting him to be in SSB4 because I don't like the idea of getting rid of characters with unique movesets.

I hate how "serious" his moveset feels. He's like the anti-G&W.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I hate how "serious" his moveset feels. He's like the anti-G&W.

Huh, wat

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Aside from his Gyro a lot of moves that ROB has feel kinda serious and uninventive.

Where are his stacks man? He needs his stacks.

 

[Chet Rippo]

Aside from his Gyro a lot of moves that ROB has feel kinda serious and uninventive.

Where are his stacks man? He needs his stacks.

Yeah, it's like when coming up with a move set, they were like, "It's a robot, so it shoots lasers and flies with rockets!"
R.O.B.'s final smash is incredibly lame.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Aside from his Gyro a lot of moves that ROB has feel kinda serious and uninventive.

Where are his stacks man? He needs his stacks.

Yeah, it's like when coming up with a move set, they were like, "It's a robot, so it shoots lasers and flies with rockets!"
R.O.B.'s final smash is incredibly lame.

Ahh now I get it.

Yeah, it lacks the "game-based" moveset.

 

[BGBW]

Well one could argue the laser reference the light sensors in ROB's eyes. But yeah the Final Smash was lame.

Also his grabs should clearly be based on Stack Up.

 

[Gattuso]

Have you guys used the stage editor all that much? I'm hoping the next game gets a bigger and more in depth one to play around with. And now that there's miiverse I also want to be able to post recorded matches and other videos or watch someone's impossible skills at work.

 

[SmithnCo]

The stage editor needs a lot of work but it was a decent start. First of all they should let you use backgrounds from the normal stages and not just generic backgrounds. And let you place stuff freely instead of using a grid. More moving pieces would be nice too.

 

[PK Gaming]

Today I realized that if I set my Gamepad in its charging dock and use two classic controllers, I can play two player Injustice on it. So not only can I use it as a localized handheld, I can also use it as essentially a portable TV that I can use anywhere with a table and two power outlets. Well, technically one, but come on, that Gamepad battery is ass.

For this reason, I hope Smash U has off-screen play. Hanging out somewhere and things are boring? Shit, bitches, we playin' Smash!

But where is the TV?

DON'T NEED ONE!

Instant Smash party anywhere.

holy shit

 

[Nocturnowl]

I lost all my stages moving my save data, bad times as I had quite a few I rather liked.
The bare bones nature of Brawl's stage creator really made use of imagination at least when it came to trying to create something that looked visually distinct, at the same time you also wanted to make the stages playable, every person I knew who touched stage builder created absolute disasters with that tool, awkward overly large stages that were a hassle to knock people out of and awkward to fight on, of course I had a few of those myself.

What I really didn't like was how the few more visually distinct scenery pieces couldn't be positioned too close to certain objects nor where any of them able to be grabbed so you had a hard time placing them in positions beneficial to the actual stage layout.

The bland and very non Nintendo like backdrops were poor as well, a simple theme for each represented main series could be pretty neat if they return to the idea.
Well i'm going to go build me a stage right now!

 

[KevinCow]

Let me draw freeform platforms on the Gamepad.

 

[BGBW]

Pretty sure I said this before, but the big flaw of the stage builder is the lack of scenic items. Everything is blocks or platforms in space. Would be nice if you could place items in the background.

 

[Nocturnowl]

I could not create an acceptable stage to please my inner architect, and this classic controller makes me sad, those damn twangy sticks!

 

[Green Mamba]

Absolute top priority for Stage Creator should be the ability to make walk-off edges and edges that extended all the way down.

The lack of both of these abilities is what makes Stage Creator feel the most limited I think.

 

[qq more]

I recall there was a stage builder app for computers done by a fan. It was somewhat less limited and it was pretty cool.

 

[Gattuso]

Let me draw freeform platforms on the Gamepad.

this^ I would love being able to make slopes and curves or something really absurd with the level design.

I recall there was a stage builder app for computers done by a fan. It was somewhat less limited and it was pretty cool.

I didn't know there was a program for it. I always used codes to remove some of the limits or do certain things when making a stage.

 

[qq more]

this^ I would love being able to make slopes and curves or something really absurd with the level design.


I didn't know there was a program for it. I always used codes to remove some of the limits or do certain things when making a stage.

To be fair, it hasn't updated since 2009. I wonder if there's another program like it with more features...?

 

[Gattuso]

well if you can go as far as import stages from other games there has to be something out there.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I recall there was a stage builder app for computers done by a fan. It was somewhat less limited and it was pretty cool.

I didn't even know that. It's too late since most of my friends are retired from Brawl.

 

[SmithnCo]

Let me draw freeform platforms on the Gamepad.

That would be the best case. Also, a gallery of stages online so that you wouldn't have to import them. People vote for the best ones.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Alright, NeoGAF seem to moved little fast today, so many people seem to missed this thread easily.

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Also I just updated OP and I posted again in thread to make sure that people are aware of their prediction are not being completed or so.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=56970146&postcount=385


Also I would be okay with people bring some kind of roster discussion into thread to keep the thread bump for awhile so we can get more people involved, unless it's your strategies to keep count low for high chance to win.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

I'll start using the stage editor once this is the minimal result of using it:

 

[Gattuso]

what character do you feel you want or would have zero issue with being cut from the next game. For me it would would be olimar he just felt like a waste of space for me. I haven't touched him since around launch so I don't even remember what he played like and still don't want to find out.
edit: you slightly messed up my post.

 

[Professor Beef]

what character do you feel you want or would have zero issue with being cut from the next game. For me it would would be olimar he just felt like a waste of space for me. I haven't touched him since around launch so I don't even remember what he played like and still don't want to find out.
edit: you slightly messed up my post.

As much as I love Wind Waker, I wouldn't shed any tears if Toon Link got the axe. He was just a replacement for Young Link anyways.

 

[SmithnCo]

what character do you feel you want or would have zero issue with being cut from the next game. For me it would would be olimar he just felt like a waste of space for me. I haven't touched him since around launch so I don't even remember what he played like and still don't want to find out.
edit: you slightly messed up my post.

Lucario. He was cool but doesn't have the lasting appeal of the other Pokemon for me.

I would be PO'd if Olimar got cut, Pikmin deserves a rep. I doubt it will ever happen though, especially with Pikmin 3 coming out.

 

[Sir Ilpalazzo]

The only characters who I wouldn't really miss are Lucario and Ike. I don't dislike them or anything like that, but neither of them have ever interested me at all.

 

[Gattuso]

Lucario. He was cool but doesn't have the lasting appeal of the other Pokemon for me.

I would be PO'd if Olimar got cut, Pikmin deserves a rep. I doubt it will ever happen though, especially with Pikmin 3 coming out.

yea i don't see him realistically being cut but the thrill of having him in the game wore off quickly for me.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Alright, NeoGAF seem to moved little fast today, so many people seem to missed this thread easily.

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SSB4 Prediction Contest


Also I just updated OP and I posted again in thread to make sure that people are aware of their prediction are not being completed or so.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=56970146&postcount=385


Also I would be okay with people bring some kind of roster discussion into thread to keep the thread bump for awhile so we can get more people involved, unless it's your strategies to keep count low for high chance to win.

Bump for new page.

what character do you feel you want or would have zero issue with being cut from the next game. For me it would would be olimar he just felt like a waste of space for me. I haven't touched him since around launch so I don't even remember what he played like and still don't want to find out.
edit: you slightly messed up my post.

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