IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Jimmy T = Great idea. His final Smash would be disco ball, disco dance and dancing cats.
I saw a moveset someone made for Jimmy T. I really like it.
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Jimmy T = Great idea. His final Smash would be disco ball, disco dance and dancing cats.
I saw a moveset someone made for Jimmy T. I really like it.
Togglesworlh
Banned
Well. 1) You're wrong. and 2) I FUCKING HATE HIM. That's pretty much my reason.
AceBandage
Banned
Seriously.
It should be Koopa Kids, but it's random each round which one you are.
RANDOM MOVE SETS!
ThatObviousUser
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Bowser Jr. could be interesting, if he was more like he was in SMG/2. Or give him a paintbrush, whatevs. He's fine.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Haha, I wish. Too much works for Sakurai and they seem to be forgotten characters.
They can borrow some moves from variable games, expect Sunshine. I don't want to see Shadow Mario transformation.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
From Yoshi Island series right?
AceBandage
Banned
Haha, I wish. Too much works for Sakurai and they seem to be forgotten characters.
They can borrow some moves from variable games, expect Sunshine. I don't want to see Shadow Mario transformation.
Forgotten? They were in one of the best selling games of this generation.
yes.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Oh right. I actually forget that they were in NSBM:Wii. I don't know why I forget all about that game since i really love that game. I beat it with three friends on day after it release.
The Awesomest
Member
You know, I actually sort of liked the concept of common Break the Targets stages, to see how you could do it with each character. Maybe they should do both - a common stage or two, and unique stages.
you're a horrible horrible man with a puny brain
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Professor Beef
Banned
Possibly. But at least my taste in Final Fantasy games is pure.
SuperAngelo64
Banned
My sentiments exactly.
Neoriceisgood
Member
You're so funny.
Man it's lively in here to say the least. On subject of characters:
Neku > Chrono > anyone else Square could offer by a good green country mile. I want a playable Toad (as the Smash Bros. Abel/El Fuerte), Daisy (playing the Luigi to Peach's Mario by being a hyper athletic character carrying all the Mario Sports references) or Rosalina (Smash needs more magic folk/spell casters) for potential additional Mario series picks, but I wouldn't want all 3 in.
Also Medusa from KI: Uprising, because, well, Medusa.
Beyond that, still haven't changed from my previous thoughts on the matter in this thread. Mike Jones, Takamaru, Lip, Issac, Isa/Katchi all have my top level of support from a newcomer standpoint.
Edit: I totally forgot about Little Mac.
Neku > Chrono > anyone else Square could offer by a good green country mile. I want a playable Toad (as the Smash Bros. Abel/El Fuerte), Daisy (playing the Luigi to Peach's Mario by being a hyper athletic character carrying all the Mario Sports references) or Rosalina (Smash needs more magic folk/spell casters) for potential additional Mario series picks, but I wouldn't want all 3 in.
Also Medusa from KI: Uprising, because, well, Medusa.
Beyond that, still haven't changed from my previous thoughts on the matter in this thread. Mike Jones, Takamaru, Lip, Issac, Isa/Katchi all have my top level of support from a newcomer standpoint.
Edit: I totally forgot about Little Mac.
Until they say otherwise.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
Plus, in this case, Sakurai made a comment like that during Brawl's development.
Nightstick11
Banned
Characters I'd like to see in the next Smash:
Lyn
Little Mac
1080 Snowboarder
Wave Race jetskier
Tom Nook
Another F-Zero guy
Ganondorf with own movelist
Toad
Rosalina
Waluigi
Some/All of the Koopa Kids
Vaati
Midna
Characters who should be removed
Toon Link/Kid Link
Third-party characters that make sense
Moogle
Mega-Man
Pac-Man
Lyn
Little Mac
1080 Snowboarder
Wave Race jetskier
Tom Nook
Another F-Zero guy
Ganondorf with own movelist
Toad
Rosalina
Waluigi
Some/All of the Koopa Kids
Vaati
Midna
Characters who should be removed
Toon Link/Kid Link
Third-party characters that make sense
Moogle
Mega-Man
Pac-Man
I'm hoping for some Xenoblade Chronicles representation. Shulk and maybe Fiora (she could be fun to play with
) as characters, a pretty-looking stage like this (maybe a rotation like the Fire Emblem stage in Brawl?) with this music, and finally, a badass giant robot as an adventure mode boss. Bonus points if they can get Riki in somewhere (assist trophy?).
I'm hoping we'll see at least one of those, seeing as Xenoblade is a pretty successful recent first-party title...
a Zelda/Shiek-like transformation
I'm hoping we'll see at least one of those, seeing as Xenoblade is a pretty successful recent first-party title...
The Xtortionist
Member
Black Shadow could adopt Ganny's old moveset.
Neoriceisgood
Member
I actually thought about it as well, I have no real objections to clones if it means we get a larger roster, but I don't like clones that make no sense.
Black Dragon as the baddie from F-Zero would make much more sense as a heavier more powerful Cap Falcon (neither of em had a real moveset anyway), but Cap.falcon and Ganondorf aren't in any way related or similar.
I think it'd be a great way to perserve Ganondorf's moveset for the 3 people that enjoy it, and still give Ganondorf his own unique moves.
The Xtortionist
Member
Neoriceisgood
Member
Well doesn't Brawl+ make him y'know ... not suck?
I think his moveset would be fine if he was balanced to be playable.
On that note, I hope we get a more balanced game next time around, Brawl was ridiculous.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Honestly just make Ganon use his damn sword. Is it stuck in his ass so much that he can't use it outside of taunting?
sorijealut
Member
Xenoblade ya har har...
Rhythm heaven inclusion
Rhythm heaven inclusion
The Xtortionist
Member
I was a fan of his in Brawl+. D-throw and F+B left the other character in a "lying down" state so you could jab them for free damage. His Fair (dat fist) was super-good and greatly benefited from Brawl+'s removal of move degradation.
Man, Brawl+ was fucking great.
Neoriceisgood
Member
But Ganon is the piggie!
Honestly I'm not convinced Melee was any more balanced.
Green Mamba
Member
The name "Ganon" can be used interchangeably as a nickname for Ganondorf and a specific name for his beast form.
Melee didn't have any one character that even approached the level of domination that Meta Knight had.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The problem with Brawl+ is that balancing priority is sadly based on popularity of the character. Yes Brawl definitely needs tweaking, but + is the last place I'd want to be done when their policy is "which character fans screams the loudest".
About half the Melee cast had near-unwinnable matchups against Shiek. That was pretty bad.
Also I think Meta Knight is a bit overblown.
Starphoenix
Member
Meh, I am more interested in the stages. I am almost certain we will be getting a Xenoblade stage.
Neoriceisgood
Member
I've played very little Melee so I can't judge that.
I honestly don't think a "which game was most balanced" argument is needed though, as far as I am aware most of them had their own balance issues.
I just hope the next game has as little of them as possible, No metaknights, no shieks, no Ganondorfs.
Been playing Brawl a lot recently with friends and it's been a blast again.
1) Get rid of random trips. How can anyone think this was a good idea?
2) Make block stun longer. It's borderline KI1 block stun.
3) Make the heavier characters more playable.
I don't mind them losing Toon Link for Fierce Deity Link. Make it happen Big N!
1) Get rid of random trips. How can anyone think this was a good idea?
2) Make block stun longer. It's borderline KI1 block stun.
3) Make the heavier characters more playable.
I don't mind them losing Toon Link for Fierce Deity Link. Make it happen Big N!
S: Fox, Falco, Jigglypuff, Sheik
A: Marth, Peach, Captain Falcon
B: Ice Climbers
C: Dr. Mario, Ganondorf, Samus
D: Pikachu, Mario, Luigi, Donkey Kong
E: Link, Young Link
F: Zelda, Roy, Mewtwo, Yoshi, Mr. Game & Watch
G: Ness, Bowser, Kirby, Pichu
The 8 top tiers- everyone ICs and up
The 6 super viables (characters you can make your main without any real need of a secondary) - everyone Luigi and up
The 7 "specialists" (characters who have major flaws overall but are still great at certain matchups; ex: Y.L v. Puff, Link v. Marth/Samus, Zelda v. ICs, Roy v. Falcon, etc) - Yoshi and up
The 5 at the bottom (characters that struggle, and struggle hard, at just about every matchup) - Kirby, Pichu, Bowser, Ness, and G&W
Not sure about Brawl right now, but when I played, MK dominated, and then it was Falco, Wario, Snake, ICs, Diddy pretty even.
Togglesworlh
Banned
Well, I wasn't trying to be, but I appreciate the compliment. :3
But seriously, I just don't like him? I wouldn't lose sleep over his inclusion, but I'd prefer time be spent on other, less obnoxious characters, like Waluigi (nyehehe). Why is that not an acceptable reason for you? It follows the same delusional logic as "no third party characters because it ruins the spirit of the game!" that some people are throwing around. (Your stated reasons for not wanting too many third-party characters are by far the most reasonable, which I appreciate, even if I don't necessarily agree. Also I noticed that I missed like THREE OF YOUR POSTS on the last page where you were directly responding to me oh god I am a horrible person I'm sorry. ;_
friskykillface
Banned
give me majoras mask link with all his moves being him transforming to a zora, a goron, and a deku kid
would have the most moves for any character
would have the most moves for any character
Wait, who actually said there shouldn't be any 3rd parties? All I've been reading regarding them in this thread is that there shouldn't be too many 3rd parties.Well, I wasn't trying to be, but I appreciate the compliment. :3
But seriously, I just don't like him? I wouldn't lose sleep over his inclusion, but I'd prefer time be spent on other, less obnoxious characters, like Waluigi (nyehehe). Why is that not an acceptable reason for you? It follows the same delusional logic as "no third party characters because it ruins the spirit of the game!" that some people are throwing around. (Your stated reasons for not wanting too many third-party characters are by far the most reasonable, which I appreciate, even if I don't necessarily agree. Also I noticed that I missed like THREE OF YOUR POSTS on the last page where you were directly responding to me oh god I am a horrible person I'm sorry. ;_
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Togglesworlh
Banned
Wow, man. I didn't say anyone said that. If you read the whole post, you would understand that. If you did read the whole thing, and still don't understand, then I don't know what to tell you.
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Wow, what's with that attitude? I was just asking. Sheesh.
I was referring to this part by the way:
"It follows the same delusional logic as "no third party characters because it ruins the spirit of the game!" that some people are throwing around."
I assumed you were referring to someone in the thread.
Togglesworlh
Banned
If there's any one thing that grinds my gears, it's false accusations (even though I'm oftrn guilty of the same! D
, but I probably reacted too harshly. Sorry. U:The quote was a bit of a facetious exaggeration. Nobody has said specifically that they want no third-party characters, but some have said that it ruins the spirit of the game, which, to me, is some really goddamn arbitrary reasoning for not wanting "more" third-party characters. Neo's reasoning, on the other hand, has more to do with simply wanting more obscure Nintendo characters, and nothing else. That's something I can identify with, even if I don't necessarily agree that including more third-party characters negates that possibility.
Neoriceisgood
Member
You have a potty mouth y'know that?
Togglesworlh
Banned
Yes, and I don't give a shit. Words is words. :3
If there's any one thing that grinds my gears, it's false accusations (even though I'm oftrn guilty of the same! D
You're forgiven. (Although to be fair, I have the tendency to word my posts wrong, so I apologize if I did sounded rude there.)
Ehh, I can see where both sides are coming from. Personally, I wouldn't mind if they've added a few more 3rd parties. I can see Dragon Quest and Mega Man fit in the Smash Bros universe so well.
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