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Next Super Smash Bros. discussion thread, Community Edition
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Final Smashes are a fun gameplay element that probably need some changes and fine-tuning. I am actually uncertain whether or not the mad chase after the Smash Ball is good for the gameplay or not. It is fun, but at the same time disrupts the natural flow of combat. Of course, the "natural flow" of Smash's combat is already unstable and hectic, so I can't honestly say that it is too big of a change.
I'm just hoping Smash 4 fixes the item list. Brawl had a pretty lousy set of items compared to 64 and Melee. A lot of them lack visual distinction, many are not very fun, and too many have random results. And the Dragoon just ruins the flow of matches by not going away until someone uses the darn thing. A lot of the really fun items, such as proximity mines, are way too rarely occurring also.
I'm just hoping Smash 4 fixes the item list. Brawl had a pretty lousy set of items compared to 64 and Melee. A lot of them lack visual distinction, many are not very fun, and too many have random results. And the Dragoon just ruins the flow of matches by not going away until someone uses the darn thing. A lot of the really fun items, such as proximity mines, are way too rarely occurring also.
Talking about a lack of visual distinction, I wonder if they'll change the poison mushroom to a mini mushroom. Thing is the poison mushroom could have already looked different from the regular super mushroom but they obviously chose to make them similar in appearance.
Isn't the point that you can't tell which one it is from a quick glance? You would attempt to avoid an obvious mini mushroom, but when you can't tell if its a Super Mushroom or not...
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I just set up IRC chatroom for Smash GAF community, just in case if neogaf crash or people are looking for battles.
http://mibbit.com/?channel=%23SmashGAF&server=rizon.mibbit.org
http://mibbit.com/?channel=%23SmashGAF&server=rizon.mibbit.org
great idea, i don't think gaf will survive e3. i'm expecting it to go down pretty quickly.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Please edit your link out since I just changed the link.
its been changed, was the link broken or something? i didn't check
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I was mimicking people who does similar things to other characters.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Set up on wrong server.
DisconnectD
Member
This is my only problem with them, aside from "clones" having the same final smashes. The spawn rate definitely needs to be tweaked to where something that powerful has a seperate timer than the other items. That's the main reason my friends and I rarely play with them. We'll do it then be like: "why'd we think this was a good idea again?"
TheGannondork
Neo Member
So I know it won't happen but this game needs Groose!
DisconnectD
Member
He'll probably make it in as part of a stage hazard or assist trophy, though. I'm excited for the next Zelda stage/s
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I can't wait next week for Pokemon news.
Isaac should have Djinn for final smash. Maybe Ragnorak or Odyssey.
Ragnorak would be a thing of beauty in 3D. I was playing Brawl for the first time in awhile with a friend and even he still wants Isaac in Smash and we rarely talk about Smash anymore. I just don't see it happening, imo. Although, I would be pleasantly surprised.
It was an interesting concept but I got tired of them. They're just unbalanced. I'd rather have like a Super Smash Attack or something
You do make a good point and they were reasonable. Maybe they just decided "eff it, lets make Final Smashes an item" to help "balance" them or something. I'm pretty sure the Land Master was the tipping point lol.
Nocturnowl
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Funny that by virtue of its duration Falco basically got the best Landmaster, prefers the air my arse.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Drugs
Neoriceisgood
Member
They ate mushrooms and lit up some flowers.
Dr.Thunder
Member
Doesn't it stem from his negative feeling of always playing second fiddle?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
ScraftyDevil
Banned
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
is it really reliable?
Yeah, but it didn't seem very "Luigi" to me.
Chet Rippo
Member
You guys need to let go of the GameCube controller...
Someone made an adapter for Wii U where you can use the GC controller actually.
EDIT: Oh, I'm stupid. Just noticed someone already linked it LOL
I played like 2 years of PS3 controllers and 360 controllers and Classic Controller PROs with Brawl and Melee on my computer and Wii, I was sitting there saying the GC controller really isn't needed for Smash, then I finally got a Gamecube to PC adapter last month, and all of that changed.
GC controller can't be replaced for Smash, I mean yeah, you can use other controllers for Smash, but the controller is just too perfect for Smash. It's like Arcade Sticks with traditional fighting games. Also, triggers on the Gamecube controller are perfect for Smash.
GC controller can't be replaced for Smash, I mean yeah, you can use other controllers for Smash, but the controller is just too perfect for Smash. It's like Arcade Sticks with traditional fighting games. Also, triggers on the Gamecube controller are perfect for Smash.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Ill let it go when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
Akibastman
Member
Smash4 needs to be bundled with a GameCube pad adapter.
That could work since it would be cheaper, or they could release a newer version of the Game cube controller.
Sorta like this just with an extra bumper.
I hope switching between Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS doesn't make the 3DS version feel too inferior to control with.
I want this.
That could work since it would be cheaper, or they could release a newer version of the Game cube controller.
Sorta like this just with an extra bumper.
I want this.
I don't like the GCN controller anymore. It was made for smaller hands. The left controller stick is awful (I didn't mind the C-stick), the Z-button is stupid small, stupidly placed, and requires more force than should be needed to press it, and the D-Pad is terrible (not needed for Smash though). My hands cramps up often while I'm replaying Wind Waker currently.
Shadow Hog
Member
Okay, I've heard complaints about the C-stick before, but I don't think I've heard anyone bemoan the left stick while saying the C-stick is alright.
GC left analog is great. Not sure why you'd say otherwise.
GC left analog is great. Not sure why you'd say otherwise.
Well that is more of a Wind Waker complaint though. Hard to spam the spin attack with it for me. :lol
The grips are kinda annoying, but they don't really hamper me.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm prepared to.
It will. Currently give no fucks about a portable Smash Bros.
wat
The Gamecube controller might as well be called the Smash Bros controller. It was MADE for Melee/Brawl. I will use it FOREVER
MAtgS
Member
Won't have to. Hori/Madcatz/somebody will undoubtedly make a pro controller shaped like a GCN pad.
If what Sakurai said about the 3DS version comes to pass, you'll have to.Anth0ny said:
Hm?
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