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I still think Jones falls to them
AngmarsKing701
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I remember a post from Kastrioti absolutely denying that the Lions would even consider Ansah. So regardless of what all the mock draft-nicks are saying, you're safe.
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Yeah, that's why this draft sucks compared to the last two years. Julio Jones and AJ Green were gamechangers as was RGIII/Luck. Nothing like that this year except maybe for Austin.
I do think there is going to be a trade, somebody's going to go up to get Lane Johnson and maybe Joeckel/Fisher.
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The_Darkest_Red
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@RossTuckerNFL 35m
Dolphins giving up a 2nd RD pick for right to pay Branden Albert more than they offered Jake Long? Makes no sense.
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Heard from one source this morning that #Dolphins agree with @RossTuckerNFL, that a 2nd rounder isn't worth it for Albert. We'll see...
Dolphins giving up a 2nd RD pick for right to pay Branden Albert more than they offered Jake Long? Makes no sense.
@BenVolinPBP 7m
Heard from one source this morning that #Dolphins agree with @RossTuckerNFL, that a 2nd rounder isn't worth it for Albert. We'll see...
AngmarsKing701
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The_Darkest_Red
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NihonTiger90
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Lions are going to draft Ansah tonight.
Why? Because Madden Curse.
Why? Because Madden Curse.
Well you can't project trades and he thinks KC takes Fisher #1 overall. So he is attaching Luke Joekel to a team rather than an actual pick # because he thinks a trade will take place. So its not that crazy.
So much about the Eagles and Austin. Man they must love the kid if so much talk about is dropping down to take him mid first round. Maybe Maclin is really gone. Or maybe they want all three. All 3 speedy undersized guys. Just worry about health though I heard Austin has never missed a game or practice in HS or his 4 years in college.
1. Austin makes them super scary to defend against plus we possibly gain another 2nd round pick with a trade down.
2. Fisher or Lance Johnson solves two OLINE positions and makes the OLINE possibly top 5
3. Dion Jordan/Star instantly start on D, add talent, and help with the transition to 3-4
TheLegendary
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There will be someone who reaches for a pick with a crazy trade as usual , but overall I don't see this being entertaining at all. Oh well.
Yeah giving up a 2nd round pick and paying him elite LT money makes no sense when they weren't willing to do it for Long. I thought the whole point of letting Long walk was so they could reset the position.
And if this source is correct, it could mean they have a deal in place with one of the top 6-7 teams.
Why are Lions fans so down on Ansah? Yeah he is raw but almost all analysts keep raving about him.
There isn't even a consensus #1 pick a few hours before the draft. I don't see how this couldn't be entertaining.
I wouldn't be surprised if they have deals in place with the Raiders, Eagles and Browns.
Future PhaZe
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Eagles are moving to a 3-4?
ugh, Jim Johnson rolling in his grave
ugh, Jim Johnson rolling in his grave
yankeehater
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You are a big meanie.
TheLegendary
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Because trying to follow in his footsteps has worked out so well for them these last few years!
The_Darkest_Red
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They've been making some pretty decent moves the past year or two though, especially relative to the past decade or so. They had some losses along the way (missed out on best Harbaugh and Peyton), but they've avoided doing some really stupid stuff as well (signing Orton, drafting Mallett when Henne clearly wasn't the answer).
Right now I'm at about 50% as far as Ireland approval rating, and this next season will probably change that +/- 30% given all the crazy stuff the team has been doing this offseason.
Also, I have to laugh at the idea of the Dolphins not getting flak. How many times was lolphins posted during the season last year? And the team went 7-9 with a lot of close losses so I wouldn't put them in the bottom-feeder category anymore.
What are you taking about? The Eagles weren't using JJ's blitz schemes under Castillo. They also didn't have a guy like Dawkins to clean up after everyone.
NihonTiger90
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I think on my part, I feel we have just as big needs on the OL to keep Stafford protected. Plus, some of it does have to deal with the fact that everyone in the media is saying he did so well during the Senior Bowl under Lions coaching that he WILL be just the same.
It's possible ... if Schwartz doesn't get canned this season, which is a high possibility if the Lions underperform again.
This isn't even a bold prediction. The Rams are taking Lacy if they stay at 22. I mean I hope at 22. Even dumber if they do it at 16, but he could be the guy they are targeting in the draft. I think they are happy to let everyone think the want Austin, but will really just grab someone like TJ Moe in the 6th round
Futurevoid
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Analysts are raving about his athleticism. Not his football talent of which he has very little experience. Many scouts consider him even more raw than JPP coming out and he's projected as a top 5 pick so the boom or bust risk is higher given the where he'd be selected by the Lions.
Frankly, if as an organization you feel that you've got the type of defensive coaching staff that can bring the best out of such a raw player I wouldn't hesitate to draft that type of athleticism. Lions fans apparently don't think that they do?
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storybook77
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I will be shocked if the Falcons draft anything other than a CB in the first round.
I would like Marcus Lattimore to fall in our lap in one of the mid-rounds after we take care of some other needs in the first 2 rounds.
I would like Marcus Lattimore to fall in our lap in one of the mid-rounds after we take care of some other needs in the first 2 rounds.
Oh neat. Thanks squicken. I've been relying on "other means" to watch thus far.
Do they also have the patience to limit him until he is ready to play the way they want him to? Besides coaching a player up, the hardest thing is often not playing the guy and holding him out until he is ready. There is so much pressure to put the high round picks on the field day 1, but that is often not in the teams or players best interest.
Futurevoid
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Agreed and that may be why Lions fans are leary about the pick as well? If they feel that they need immediate help, they may not have the patience for Ansah possibly being a situational pass rusher at best in his first year (again, much like JPP who didn't come until the last 6 games of his rookie year). Or like you said, the coaching staff may not have the patience to develop him.
EDIT: Ohm says Giants want Fluker (not a revelation):
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...new-york-giants-eyes-alabama-tackle-dj-fluker
Also notes that if he's not there, Vacarro and Eric Reid are on their radar at 19.
The_Darkest_Red
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Where have you been, man?
AngmarsKing701
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Maybe we need the Lions' fans to check in, but here's my take. It's not that they don't like Ansah or don't think Ansah can help them, it's that they don't like him as a top 5 pick. He's got the athleticism as Future notes but he may not be an immediate impact guy. When you pick in the top 5, you want a guy you can stick out there and have him help your team. Given Ansah's limitations, he's a risk as a top 5 pick. If they could get him at 20 I think they'd be happier with him.
TheLegendary
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I didn't say Castillo. Talking about his "protege"
All about the Attack on Titan anime yo!
Jibbajabbawockky
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I think the only way I'd be upset with the Bills is if they end up trying to trade back into the first round to pick up a QB after passing on one at #8. I don't know that any of the QBs in this draft are worth giving away other draft picks for. Or if the Bills pick Te'o. That would suck.
I think I'd be ok if the Bills ended up with Geno, Barkley, Nassib or Manuel. Or if they ended up with Tavon Austin or Mingo. The big problem for the Bills seems to be that taking a QB at #8 is a reach most likely, yet if they don't get one at #8, there is a good chance they won't have a very good selection when their second round pick comes at #41.
I think I'd be ok if the Bills ended up with Geno, Barkley, Nassib or Manuel. Or if they ended up with Tavon Austin or Mingo. The big problem for the Bills seems to be that taking a QB at #8 is a reach most likely, yet if they don't get one at #8, there is a good chance they won't have a very good selection when their second round pick comes at #41.
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The_Darkest_Red
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Ouch, that's no fun. Hopefully it'll ease up soon.
Reese has been pretty good at smokescreening this year, I think everybody's on their radar at 19.
Although what Mara said about the trenches makes me think it's oline/dline; I just think the talent on the oline is better.
Vinny Ditrani (the semiretired guy from the Record who announced a pick for the Giants last year) gave them Carradine.
Need to make sure that MaddenGAF is All In on this.
BTW, I imagine the draft will be going on during the 9pm EST time hour. Gonna miss whoever's picked, while I'm watching POI.
Heard McShay on M&M, and his Joekel reasoning (for putting him beyond the top 10), was that he's expecting one of those teams to trade up to a top 5 pick to get him. It didn't make alot of sense, but it's McShay, so...
What why? He was probably rolling in his grave when that piece of shit Reid tried to move Castillo to defensive coordinator simply because "Juan used to sit in with the defensive meetings sometimes with JJ". Or when they let McDermott run the defense without half the talent JJ used to have or half the brain to use it properly.
If they make a proper switch it could work. Then again even the Eagles don't claim they are making a total switch, just some sort of hybrid. Though the DC they picked up prefers 3-4.
Didn't they select 2 RBs last year? Why draft another that high?
It should be Austin.
One more night, and then Im off for four days for the World Music festival. so excited!
Its the one big thing I look forward to every year. Of course right after that I have to return to work another week and then several more days after. I guess the upside is Im not broke.
FrenchMovieTheme
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I'm fine with moving up if its our 1st and late 2nd
They don't. They're under-the-radar bunglers. Even after an hbo special.
During games or whatever? lol gets added to everything. loltriots lolts
They've finally made it.
Futurevoid
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Been my pick for a long while, yeah.
Jason Cole saying the Niners want Sheldon Richardson:
It's Sheldon Richardson according to the rumors.
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