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I appreciate it sir.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/22140392/2013-nfl-draft-second-round-mock-draft
A second round mock from Dane Brugler, who had Eric Fisher to the Chiefs pegged before anyone else months ago, for whatever that's worth.
BlackGhost
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Sounds like I need to boycott, ooo well I guess itll add to the rise of browns football<3
not everyone can live on the edge brah
Yeah, I'd love Franklin or Giovani Bernard. I've heard we have some interest in LeVeon Bell as well, but that's more of a 3rd round selection.
Would you mind the Steelers trading up for a second 2nd round pick or a high 3rd round pick?
Future PhaZe
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don't really see Shanny grabbing a DE with his 2nd
Really happy Miami jumped up to go after Jordan. The combination of him and Wake on the outside with Soliai, Starks, Odrick rotating inside makes for a nice front.
Curious to see what they do today. I'm cool with trading a 3rd for Albert (KC) but not a 2nd. Eric Winston is still sitting in FA and they can simply go after him. Jonathan Martin has been working like crazy this offseason and is much stronger, I think he can hold down LT.
I'd really like Miami to make a move to try to get Cyprien, since Clemons is on just a 1 year deal. That guy covers ground quick as hell, plays fast, hits hard, is always around the ball. I think he's a far better player than Vacarro.
Curious to see what they do today. I'm cool with trading a 3rd for Albert (KC) but not a 2nd. Eric Winston is still sitting in FA and they can simply go after him. Jonathan Martin has been working like crazy this offseason and is much stronger, I think he can hold down LT.
I'd really like Miami to make a move to try to get Cyprien, since Clemons is on just a 1 year deal. That guy covers ground quick as hell, plays fast, hits hard, is always around the ball. I think he's a far better player than Vacarro.
DeaconKnowledge
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Only for Minter, but I don't think they like him that much. Either he falls into their laps or he goes someplace else.
edit: Gerry Dulac thinks the Steelers trade up in the second to take Arthur Brown.
I still think it's way too premature to decide on Jenkins, book is still out. Give him this season. He was never going to be a factor for most of last year regardless.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--r...in-getting-their-man-eric-reid-075049013.html
I linked that earlier, but Silver covered both SF and OAK drafts. Really weird how he fawns over SF and belittles OAK, though if OAK was taking Hayden at 3, that is a bit nuts
Seems like the Vikes know they need a "plan" for Patterson, like they should have had for Harvin, and already know what they need to do. Clearly they had him targeted before the draft. Think they jumped b/c STL had been rumored to grab him
I linked that earlier, but Silver covered both SF and OAK drafts. Really weird how he fawns over SF and belittles OAK, though if OAK was taking Hayden at 3, that is a bit nuts
Seems like the Vikes know they need a "plan" for Patterson, like they should have had for Harvin, and already know what they need to do. Clearly they had him targeted before the draft. Think they jumped b/c STL had been rumored to grab him
FrenchMovieTheme
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Lol sounds like u mad! Don't hate on the former and future NFC west kings!
storybook77
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Futurevoid
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Tank, Hunt, Brown, Minter.
Another offensive line prospect wouldn't be bad either. We got our RT last night but we still need depth at T and guard. Boothe, Diehl and Snee could all be gone next year.
Elfforkusu
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tbh, this is my concern with the Packers under Ted. Draft and develop is great, but really we've only made it work on the offensive side of the ball. The defense was propped up by free agent signings (Woodson, Pickett).
Basically the only elite talents Ted has drafted on defense are Clay and Nick Collins. It's a pretty awful hit rate. I guess the jury's still out on the 2012 guys though...
OTOH, his ability to find productive undrafted dudes is completely insane.
Couple more random Day 2 mocks:
http://draftseason.com/lups-day-2-mock/
http://nflsfuture.com/2013/04/26/2013-nfl-mock-draft-2nd-and-3rd-rounds/
http://draftseason.com/lups-day-2-mock/
http://nflsfuture.com/2013/04/26/2013-nfl-mock-draft-2nd-and-3rd-rounds/
Hopefully Hayward will only improve. I think he's a good talent.
The others from last year...I'm not going to write off yet, but yeah, they'd have to make some big strides this season.
Silver really seems to have an axe to grind with McKenzie. I don't know how close Silver and Hue were but it's like he's never recovered
I looked up the numbers for WRs who perform poorly their rookie year, and unless it's due to injury, it's not good company that Quick and Jenkins keep. Usually at least by the end of the year they are getting better, like Blackmon did last year
Elfforkusu
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Yeah, I edited the post to exempt the 2012 guys. I think it's too soon to say about Perry/Worthy, and early returns on Hayward are promising.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not thrilled at how last year went down lol.
But at least it was more so due to his lack of playing, rather than playing and not performing at all. I'm more on the optimistic side of the coin that when he gets his chance he'll do well, rather than the pessimistic view of 'he didn't play cause he sucked in practice so bad'.
Fingers crossed.
DeaconKnowledge
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Seems like he's pretty good finding cornerbacks. It's front seven he sucks at.
Texans would have been an amazing fit. We have all the strippers and weed he'd want.
I'm glad the Patriots celebrated a Boston tribute by trading their pick.
Wouldn't have it any other way!
BlackGhost
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I think I read something about this, and he was supposedly sick.
I'll still take him, radio had a good segment about his recovery/comeback last week
Jason's Ultimatum
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The good news is that we have a new logo:
The bad news? We're still gonna suck next season.
The bad news? We're still gonna suck next season.
talisayNon
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you're also way too harsh on EJ Manuel. He's better than Nassib, and probably the best QB in this class.
Jets were interested in him too.
I understand that feel of not knowing with the Dolphins pick. Dude is either going to be amazing one day like Aldon Smith, Jasion Pierre-Paul, or he's gonna be a mediocre situational pass rush guy who averages 5 sacks a year. But the more you look at it, the AFC East goes through New England. Can you tell me the formula for beating pass happy teams like undoubtedly the Broncos, Packers or the Patriots will be?
Yeah exactly. The Dolphins whom obviously know at least something about Offensive Lineman, picking 4 offensive linemen in the first 3 rounds in the past 5 years maybe realized, It wasn't working. Anyway, that's how I try to make sense of the pick. You beat Tom Brady by drafting Lane Johnson? It's not the Patriots defense thats gonna kill us, its Brady, Hernandez and Gronk. I think one of the NFL writers put it best. If Bellichik, Newsome or Coughlin got Dion Jordan it would of been a master stroke pick, but since Ireland has a sketchy history, it's a risky selection. Because Ireland has yet to make anything work up to this point. So only time will tell unfortunately.
Yeah exactly. The Dolphins whom obviously know at least something about Offensive Lineman, picking 4 offensive linemen in the first 3 rounds in the past 5 years maybe realized, It wasn't working. Anyway, that's how I try to make sense of the pick. You beat Tom Brady by drafting Lane Johnson? It's not the Patriots defense thats gonna kill us, its Brady, Hernandez and Gronk. I think one of the NFL writers put it best. If Bellichik, Newsome or Coughlin got Dion Jordan it would of been a master stroke pick, but since Ireland has a sketchy history, it's a risky selection. Because Ireland has yet to make anything work up to this point. So only time will tell unfortunately.
sf2fanatic
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Ok gaf will we see more college players leave early now since they see Matt Barkley go back to school, ruined his draft stock and possibility now has to earn his paycheck instead of a guarantee one? I mean bonuses and stuff?
NO GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Dutch Gronk
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I like you
I really don't get the anger about this.
What is he supposed to do? Pick because of a tribute, not because you want to ? That's just stupid.
Gil Brandt ‏@Gil_Brandt
Expect 3 QBs to go between picks 33-39. My sources expect @Eagles (35) and @NYJets (39) to go that route
Barkley was never going to be a top 5 pick. He would have been picked apart once he started working out and throwing for teams.
Expect 3 QBs to go between picks 33-39. My sources expect @Eagles (35) and @NYJets (39) to go that route
Barkley was never going to be a top 5 pick. He would have been picked apart once he started working out and throwing for teams.
sf2fanatic
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Thanks for the Barkley quote. I kinda wanted to know what he would say after last night
I'm 90% sure the Skins wouldn't have traded up for Matt Barkley.
sf2fanatic
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but he would of have been at least a top 10 right?
I don't believe that they would have, but you never know. It came out a few months back that Shanny wanted to draft Russell to backup RGIII. If RGIII was the off the board, they may have taken Russell in the 2nd. I believe he was still available at that point.
I'd love that. But I'm not sure the Steelers have the picks to give up to move up very far. Maybe 5 spots for a 5th and 6th? Does JerrAl have a high pick in the second? He's obviously open to being fleeced.
Brown/Minter/Cyprien in that order is my wishlist on the defensive side of the ball. There's some decent wr talent that should be available, but nothing outstanding. Save it for the third. Montee Ball may be a sleeper pick.
LSU cornerback Tharold Simon was arrested on 'Tharold Simon Day' in his hometown, for intimidating a police officer.
He's a 6'3 CB. Maybe he can be the Patriots' Alfonzo Dennard of this year.
He's a 6'3 CB. Maybe he can be the Patriots' Alfonzo Dennard of this year.
Maybe in the 7th. He can only play in the slot, and the Patriots have one of the best young slot corners with Kyle Arrington.
The Patriots suck.
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