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NHL February 2015 |OT| The next Maple Leafs goal will be scored by Connor McDavid
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User 479360
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Guaranteed loss
Only Bibeau can save us at this point
Yep, congrats on the shutout Scribbles
CreeperBlocks
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Malcolm Subban could start tomorrow for the Bruins. I want Subban vs Subban. I'm hyped.
User 479360
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I doubt I'll even waste my time watching the game, and end up playing video games instead. Why bother supporting futility by giving it ratings, until the team starts a rebuild?
Zombie James
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Condition on that 7th rounder
so nothing probably
So more than what he got for Bolland, Grabovski, Kulemin, MacArthur, and Gleason combined. Truly one of the league's best GMs.
Needs Leaf players/Nonis/Horachek/Shanahan photoshopped into it.
So more than what he got for Bolland, Grabovski, Kulemin, MacArthur, and Gleason combined. Truly one of the league's best GMs.
hey man we got dead money on the payroll for Gleason. That's something!
Christ, this again.
Grabovski and Kulemin. Both on pace for a 30-point season, give or take. $9 million combined.
So why do we continue to talk about 3rd line centres/wingers? I thought the problem was putting TOO MUCH VALUE on these guys in the first place?
EDIT: If the Leafs were in a playoff spot under Horachek at this moment, I don't think you'll be hearing too much talk about Franson/Santorelli/Winnik etc. being moved.
Grabovski and Kulemin. Both on pace for a 30-point season, give or take. $9 million combined.
So why do we continue to talk about 3rd line centres/wingers? I thought the problem was putting TOO MUCH VALUE on these guys in the first place?
EDIT: If the Leafs were in a playoff spot under Horachek at this moment, I don't think you'll be hearing too much talk about Franson/Santorelli/Winnik etc. being moved.
I don't have a big problem with letting Kulemin walk given the situation, but I don't know how you can defend using a compliance buyout on Grabbo to free up the cap room to sign Clarkson. Grabbo may not put up big points but he's an excellent possession driver, which you may have noticed is one of the Leafs' most significant areas of weakness. Kuley is also a possession-driver, for that matter. They're both good two-way forwards and the Leafs are severely lacking in two-way forwards. As it so happens, the Islanders are great at possession this year.
Why can't I defend the compliance buyout on Grabovski? Good possession player? That's nice. Didn't we spend $1 million on Daniel Winnik and isn't he suppose to be a good possession player? Why do we need to spend $5 million on one? Both on pace for 30 points give or take, if you want to consider that as well.
EDIT: The path from the compliance buyout on Grabovski to the eventual signing of Clarkson to where we are now is unfortunate, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't still support buying out Grabovski and eventually using that money wisely elsewhere, say towards keeping Kadri long-term.
CreeperBlocks
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Lines:
Pacioretty- Desharnais- Weise,
Galchenyuk- Plek- Gallagher,
De La Rose- Eller - Thomas,
Prust- Dumont- Sekac
Fuck you Therrien. Sekac deserves to be on that first line.
Pacioretty- Desharnais- Weise,
Galchenyuk- Plek- Gallagher,
De La Rose- Eller - Thomas,
Prust- Dumont- Sekac
Fuck you Therrien. Sekac deserves to be on that first line.
That compliance buyout could've been used on someone like Gleason, as opposed to a useful player, regardless if he's overpaid. Not to mention, as I said the money was used to sign David Clarkson. It's simply indefensible what Nonis has done over the last couple years.
He's actively made this team worse, letting good players walk for nothing, while overpaying replacement-level 4th liners and bottom pair D.
It's easy to look at things in hindsight(considering Gleason was acquired months and months later), but I don't see any way the Leafs don't buy out Grabovski. We're talking about a 28-29 year old centre making $5.5 million for the next 5 years.
speculawyer
Member
Well I'm cheering for the Oilers too so the Sharks aren't the only team that get beat by them.
speculawyer
Member
LOL!
Well, one of them has to win tonight. But maybe it will take a long shoot-out after a 0 - 0 tie.
Zombie James
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The point is the Leafs lost all those guys for nothing. Literally nothing. Kulemin was a 30-goal man just a few seasons before, Grabovski's a 30-50pt guy, they gave up three draft picks - including a second - to get Bolland only to let him walk months later, and Mason Raymond had his best season since 2009. They all walked.
But hey, I guess signing a third-line grinder (at best) who had one good season and re-signing Captain Pylon to stupid contracts nobody else wants to take were higher priorities.
As much as people love to put the blame on the current roster and coaching (I'm one of them), management is just as big a culprit. Stupid trades, stupid signings, and massive wasted opportunities. Fuck Nonis.
CreeperBlocks
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I don't think you can just take these things out of context like that. If you're gonna use a valuable compliance buyout on someone then you NEED TO make sure that you're not going to need it later. If you're going to use it to free up a ton of cap space, then you NEED TO make sure you use that cap space to improve the team. Would I buy out Grabbo to sign two Winniks with term at 2.5 mil AAV? Sure. But that didn't happen.
Does any other team want Weise? Maybe Bergevin can trade him for something.
You know, that or #FireTherrien. Either or.
I love Leafs-Gaf.
Weise is a great player when he's in his proper role, aka a bottom 6 spot. He doesn't need to be traded, Therrien just needs to be shipped off to Madagascar. It's just like the same hard on Martin had for Darche when he was here, I don't get it.
This, there's nothing wrong with Weise, he's just not where he should be with his talents.
That name tho
I don't think we should base Kulemin's value on the fact he scored 30 goals once. You know who scored 30 goals once? You know who.
I'm not trying to defend all the moves, but people have to realize that the Leafs were in the playoff picture by the trade deadline. Selling off players wasn't on anyone's mind.
Yes, some of the moves didn't work out, but you have to understand why some of the players were let go.
Good thing we're having a historical collapse a month before the trade deadline. I didn't really want to repeat the same bullshit we've been talking about every off-season.
CreeperBlocks
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Hey I like Dale. Great Player but I feel he belongs on a 3rd or fourth line with Prust or something.
The only guy that doesn't belong on the 3 or 4th line is Sekac and it pisses me off.
FUBAR McDangles
Member
Finna watch Iowa kick the Marlies' collective asses in about ten minutes. Aww yiss.
User 479360
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I miss Grabo
Signing Kadri long-term feels like a bad idea. He needs another bridge contract, because he's too inconsistent.
Signing Kadri long-term feels like a bad idea. He needs another bridge contract, because he's too inconsistent.
i already did that and nobody wanted it
Couldn't have put together a better lineup myself.
