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[shpankey]

i don't see why anyone is bitching about this. i think it's really cool actually. not that i am going to buy it or anything (xbox live for me baby) but it's a really nice touch for GCN owners. i only really wish EA would do this for PS2 and Xbox as well (Solid Snake, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Dante, Ico dude, Crash Bandicoot - well I gues he'd be for all systems now- for the PS2 and for the Xbox they could have Master Chief, Cortana, Ninja Gaiden dude, Beach Vollyball girls :lol etc for them).

why anyone thinks this is bad is really comfusing to me. it's just an extra. a bonus.

 

[lexi]

If EA ever merges with one of the major game companies(Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft), it's GAME OVER for all competition.

More like Game Over for the GAF server.

 

[Culex]

I can see it now.

Nintendo partners with EA.

EA swallows Nintendo.

EA makes a new Mario Party ever year....

...oh wait, that's no different than what Nintendo is already doing...

 

[FortNinety]

A) Nintendo would simply use this to gauge interest for a potential "Mario Basketball" game

Actually, I hear tomorrow EA is going to not only only strike an exclusive deal with the NBA, but buy the rights to basketball, period.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

I think it boils down to this:


PS2 and Xbox get Online
GC gets cute cuddly wuddly characters

The GC EA sports fanbase has been pretty small, but this move would help it grow a bit. Perhaps even selling in the 500K range now.

 

[Beezy]

More like Game Over for the GAF server.

:lol :lol :lol

Seriously though, if EA was exclusive to one console, fans of their sports games would by that console. They alone would be enough to keep that console alive. Then there's their racing games, FPS's and whatever else they got.

 

[neptunes]

how about....EA making their own console! o.0

 

[Beezy]

OK, if you're talking about one-console exclusive, it'd practically kill off EA. You can forget about that. Especially when their income points are so split up among consoles, investments and such.

Well I don't understand all the technical stuff, but I think if that happened, the console market would probably end up like the current handheld market.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

:lol :lol :lol

Seriously though, if EA was exclusive to one console, fans of their sports games would by that console. They alone would be enough to keep that console alive. Then there's their racing games, FPS's and whatever else they got.

I doubt this is entirely true, and it might give way for other sports franchises to spin up and gain acceptance as a viable alternative (Look at the 2K games... well... while they were on the DC). That's not what EA wants, because that'd eat into their marketshare.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

Well I don't understand all the technical stuff, but I think if that happened, the console market would probably end up like the current handheld market.

Which is also not what console makers want, and the home console market would probably never resemble the handheld market, no matter what believable event transpires.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I dunno ... if Nintendo partnered with EA and they agreed to say split money from 3rd party licensing fees/accessorie sales/any hardware profit etc. down the line at 50-50, would they make more money going that route?

It seems so unlikely to not be worth much thought, but I'm not sure they'd make more money. On top of losing half the money coming in as you mention, the Nintendo half wouldn't be charging EA licensing fees, and they're a significant percentage of the software out there.

 

[Beezy]

Which is also not what console makers want, and the home console market would probably never resemble the handheld market, no matter what believable event transpires.

*Nintendo and and Microsoft headquarters gets bombed by Sony fanboys disguised as terrorist*

You were sayi..........oh, you said believable.

 

[shpankey]

i actually think that if EA were to go exclusive to Nintendo instead of that lifting Nintendo up out of the slums that it would instead have the reverse effect. Nintendo would drag EA down with them. Sony is too hot and Microsoft is not big but has a decent following. those 2 would create new IP's to seriously challenge EA's offerings on Nintendo's system. indeed, without EA on either of their systems, you better believe it would become a #1 priority for both of them, they would no doubt hire every elite talent out there and spend crazy money on bringing elite sports titles to their system's.

Sony has all the casuals, and believe me, they have the "name" that most gamers are going to buy. you have to consider that most gamers (on the whole) aren't diehard sports gamers, but are casual sports gamers... they aren't going to buy a system based on sports franchises but they will occasionaly buy sports games on their main system.

the backlash against EA would be monumental.. and they would suffer unmanageable losses. it would be complete suicide for EA. there is absolutely no way in hell any Nintendo platform can sustain the mamoth EA on its own.

 

[lexi]

the backlash against EA would be monumental.. and they would suffer unmanageable losses. it would be complete suicide for EA.

Backlash? What's that? The consumer does not understand the concept of a backlash. EA is huge, if they alligned themselves with any of the big three, it would be a huge blow to the competition.

 

[shpankey]

Backlash? What's that? The consumer does not understand the concept of a backlash. EA is huge, if they alligned themselves with any of the big three, it would be a huge blow to the competition.

I disagree. It would instead only be a huge blow to EA.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

i actually think that if EA were to go exclusive to Nintendo instead of that lifting Nintendo up out of the slums that it would instead have the reverse effect. Nintendo would drag EA down with them. Sony is too hot and Microsoft is not big but has a decent following. those 2 would create new IP's to seriously challenge EA's offerings on Nintendo's system. indeed, without EA on either of their systems, you better believe it would become a #1 priority for both of them, they would no doubt hire every elite talent out there and spend crazy money on bringing elite sports titles to their system's.

Sony has all the casuals, and believe me, they have the "name" that most gamers are going to buy. you have to consider that most gamers (on the whole) aren't diehard sports gamers, but are casual sports gamers... they aren't going to buy a system based on sports franchises but they will occasionaly buy sports games on their main system.

the backlash against EA would be monumental.. and they would suffer unmanageable losses. it would be complete suicide for EA. there is absolutely no way in hell any Nintendo platform can sustain the mamoth EA on its own.

No, if EA and Nintendo would merge, Nintendo loses the majority of decision makings, so they would be brought up to EA's level. EA is a larger company, it's just that Nintendo has more safety in the bank. EA would force Nintendo's third party in event of a merger.

 

[lexi]

I disagree. It would instead only be a huge blow to EA.

If EA alligned themselves with Sony or Microsoft? Your point seems to revolve that Nintendo would drag them down, I was referring to the fact that if any of the three partnered with EA, it would be a huge blow to the competition.

EA would force Nintendo's third party in event of a merger.

Not this shit again.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

Not this shit again.

Explain your position instead of making an unruly comment.

I'm coming from here: Nintendo's net worth has been at 9.4 Billion, right?

EA is currently worth "over 15 billion", and according to Ripclawe, right under 18 billion dollars.

 

[ohamsie]

This is awesome news. Man, back when I played NBA Jam I had more fun playing as the secret characters anyways. Bill and Hillary Clinton were hilarious, and playing as mascots and stuff was fun as well. Having a Mario team in a basketball game is good news for me.

 

[lexi]

Explain your position instead of making an unruly comment.

I'm coming from here: Nintendo's net worth has been at 9.4 Billion, right?

EA is currently worth "over 15 billion", and according to Ripclawe, right under 18 billion dollars.

It's been done to death on GAF. When Nintendo begins racking up annual losses, we can talk about this 3rd party business thing again.

 

[Mike Works]

I stopped reading this thread after watching the first few people complaining about this. What the fuck is wrong with you?

This will get a great series on the one console which never got it. So what's the problem?

How is anyone going to rationalize that it's compromising/cheapening a basketball game which featured a motherfucking YETI in the FIRST installment?

I don't want to see ANYONE complaining about this move until they can honestly answer that question. And feel free to, I'd like to see what some of you have to say.

 

[cvxfreak]

^Agreed. Seriously people, it can't harm the game. Just don't use the damn characters if it offends you so much.

 

[Particle Physicist]

I'm never going to buy this game but just to see Mario play Basketball with a bunch of other sports stars is enough for me to rent it. Barely enough but they accomplished their goal, it's just too funny to miss.

the absurdity of it might actually get me to purchase this title

 

[etiolate]

Finally! Bowser is the only person who can battle with Shaq in the low post. Throw it down big lizard man! Throw it down!

 

[Pedigree Chum]

How is anyone going to rationalize that it's compromising/cheapening a basketball game which featured a motherfucking YETI in the FIRST installment?

Well atleast a Yeti is based on human dimensions, imagine a fucking rabbit on a basketball court. It's like that with Mario characters in the game, it cheapns the whole sport.

Spoiler

just kidding! this is one weird announcement, don't have anything against it, but just...weird

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

It's been done to death on GAF. When Nintendo begins racking up annual losses, we can talk about this 3rd party business thing again.

The topic at hand was "What if Nintendo merged with EA". If they merged with EA, Nintendo would have MUCH less say in corporate going ons. It'd depend on EA's feelings, and they're strongly multi-console.

 

[Unison]

I hope it's more than just Mario / Luigi / Peach. I want the whole Nintendo roster!!

 

[Kcerrid 31]

...bizarre. Of course, since it worked for Soul Calibur II...

True. In fact, I say that it almost worked a little TOO good, to an extent. Whenever I'd play in the adventure mode, I'd always finding myself using Link and turning the game into a sort of side quest leading up to the release of the "Real" Legend of Zelda. I start feeling guilty about not using the characters that make the SC series what it is in the first place.

As far as NBA Street goes, this is my most played arcade game series next to the Marvel\Capcom games. NBA Street is a phenominal series with possibly the tightest gameplay since the 8-bit Nintendo days. Imagine the tight control of that era, combined with the modern graphics of today, and you have a deadly combination indeed.

Add to this the inclusion of the All Time Greatest NBA players, and you'll see why us NBA lovers see this game in the same light that Halo fans see their franchise. Plus, NBA street Vol.2 has 3, count em, THREE!! different versions of Michael Jordan (of course, one is the Wizards version..... meh. Hopefully Vol.3 will have a "retired" version of MJ who can rock any of his kicks from the 80s into the 2000s. That would be SICK!!

 

[Justin Bailey]

:lol After playing Vol 2, I'm seriously laughing my ass off picturing some of the moves Mario is going to pull in this game. Holy shit. :lol

Haters can die, if you don't find this hilarious then you've got serious problems.

 

[Donkeypuncher]

I can picture Mario chomping on a 'shroom, doing a wicked crossover and then jumping on a goomba as he posterizes Shaq with a dunk.

BOOM-SHAKALAKA!!!

 

[ohamsie]

There was a YETI in the first NBA Street? Is NBA Street a true succesor to NBA Jam after all? I might have to pick up this series now.

 

[neptunes]

There was a YETI in the first NBA Street? Is NBA Street a true succesor to NBA Jam after all? I might have to pick up this series now.

dude, 3LW was unlockable in Nba street.

Along with some Alien (Forgot the name)

 

[BreakyBoy]

Two things:

1. Discussion of this news in an IRC room provoked this response: "OH FUCK DAWG THAT SHIT BE CRUNK, YO, IMA HAFTA GIT MEZ A GAMECUBE NOW, FO SHIZZLE" :lol

2. I hope yoshi is in there, and he wiggles his feet and makes the constipation noise when he dunks the ball.

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

Assuming there's no (better) character exclusives on PS2 or Xbox, I might actually pick this game up at some point. NBA Street 1 was one of the first games I played on GC. Fun series.

 

[StorablePrawn]

I would do anything to have access to an NBA Jam arcade machine right now. Street Vol. 2 will hopefully fill that void in my little heart.

And there's nothing wrong with ridiculous characters in a halfway ridiculous game. Besides, it's only the Gamecube version. If you've got such a problem with it, pick up the game on your Xbox or PS2 and stay away from the Mario characters. Good lord.

 

[Gahiggidy]

Well, now. It looks like I'll be picking up my first Sports game to play on my GameCube.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

If EA alligned themselves with Sony or Microsoft? Your point seems to revolve that Nintendo would drag them down, I was referring to the fact that if any of the three partnered with EA, it would be a huge blow to the competition.

Can't it be both? It would obviously hurt the consoles that EA doesn't appear on. But by the very fact that EA isn't appearing on them, EA is also losing an indeterminate amount of market share.

This will get a great series on the one console which never got it. So what's the problem?

The console got the previous games; I just don't think many of the console owners did.

 

[sc0la]

:lol I am dying laughing at some of these scenarios.

Finally! Bowser is the only person who can battle with Shaq in the low post. Throw it down big lizard man! Throw it down!

I can picture Mario chomping on a 'shroom, doing a wicked crossover and then jumping on a goomba as he posterizes Shaq with a dunk.

BOOM-SHAKALAKA!!!

:lol

weirdest news day ever!

I just want to hear the mario "jump" sound when he shoots a J. Boing! Perhaps coin sounds when he crosses people up.

 

[Mike Works]

The console got the previous games; I just don't think many of the console owners did.

Oh fuck I'm retarded, I owned NBA Street 1 on the GameCube. It was the sequel I had for the PS2.

But yeah, I can understand more how Soul Calibur fans would be pissed having Link (and subsequently the Tekken dude and MacFarlance MacMonster) in the game, since there's an actual universe being partially deconstructed/invaded by inserting foreign characters into the game, but come on.

There was a motherfucking yeti in NBA Street.

And he was awesome. I used him, Shaq, and Iverson. And we were unbeatable.

And now I have the possibility of having Mario, a Yeti, and Shaq.

And that is just awesome.

 

[DMczaf]

What creeps me out about this is hearing Mario's "WAAAH HOOOOOO!" while doing an alley-oop dunk :lol

 

[Rlan]

imagine a fucking rabbit on a basketball court.

Make it so!

 

[neptunes]

Name: Drake
Birthplace: Detroit

This kid was funny in the first game

 

[DDayton]

Does "Nintendo All-Stars" imply that we might get Link, Samus, and Luigi all on the court at one time?

 

[MASB]

And now I have the possibility of having Mario, a Yeti, and Shaq.

And that is just awesome.

Imagine if such a combination was running down the court at you in real life. Even the Atlanta Hawks would go undefeated with that lineup. Maybe.

 

[duderon]

GODDAMNIT EA, YOU CAN'T FUCK OVER SEGA LIKE THAT. NO MORE SALES FROM ME! *boycotts*









...oh shit mario's in NBA Street.

sales +1

 

[shpankey]

If EA alligned themselves with Sony or Microsoft? Your point seems to revolve that Nintendo would drag them down, I was referring to the fact that if any of the three partnered with EA, it would be a huge blow to the competition.

i didn't say anything about Sony or Microsoft. i said Nintendo. and i know what you said, and i disagreed then and disagree now. it would hurt Sony sure (it would not be a massive blow as you suggest though), but it would hurt EA much much more. I do not believe a Nintendo platform could sustain such a mamoth company as EA. i think in fact it could be the unraveling of EA entirely.

p.s. i think the idea of nintendo characters in this game is pretty awesome. if they only had online to boot then i would definately get this version. i sure hope the ps2 and xbox gets some extra characters as well. but congrats to nintendo for scoring this. nice!

p.p.s. i am convinced there is some kind of love affair with the top man at EA with nintendo. they go out of their way to really push and support the GCN more than the other 2 systems.

 

[norinrad21]

Sold.............


I haven't bought an EA game since 1996 but i will be buying this one just because

 

[Kon Tiki]

p.p.s. i am convinced there is some kind of love affair with the top man at EA with nintendo. they go out of their way to really push and support the GCN more than the other 2 systems.

Well they did have an agreement prior.

EA Connects with Nintendo

REDMOND, Wash. - March 6, 2003 - The world's two foremost video game developers, Nintendo and Electronic Arts, today announced a collaboration on games that will include exclusive features for connected play between the Nintendo GameCube console and the portable Game Boy Advance system. The creative effort will be led by EA, with Nintendo's legendary game producer, Shigeru Miyamoto, providing input on technical game play elements.

The first three EA titles to support connectivity between the two systems will be Madden NFL 2004, FIFA 2004 and Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 2004. Madden NFL 2004 will launch on the Nintendo GameCube and Game Boy Advance simultaneously in August. FIFA 2004 will be available on both systems when the game launches in Europe this autumn and Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 2004 is scheduled for launch in October.

Over the next 12 months, EA plans to introduce approximately 20 Nintendo GameCube titles from their EA SPORTS, EA GAMES, and EA SPORTS BIG brands. Some of the additional Nintendo GameCube titles are also expected to support connectivity with Game Boy Advance.

A Game Boy Advance can be connected to the Nintendo GameCube system using a cable that links the two systems. Connectivity, depending on each software design, can allow users to exchange various forms of data, unlock new game levels, or use the Game Boy Advance as a supplemental game screen or controller.

"This is the year when the full potential of our exclusive ability to connect console and handheld gaming becomes clear with the delivery of unique game entertainment," says George Harrison, senior vice president, sales and marketing, Nintendo of America Inc. "This bold alliance to build connectivity into some of the world's most popular entertainment franchises will underscore that in unique and powerful ways."

"This agreement means that three of the world's most popular sports games - Madden NFL football, FIFA soccer and Tiger Woods PGA TOUR golf - are going to include a new way to play, and new way to compete on Nintendo systems," said EA Executive Vice President of North American Publishing, Nancy Smith

Maybe they reworked and extended the agreement to exclude connectivity.

 

[monkeyrun]

nintendo's way to get GC owners to play sports games :lol

 

[Drensch]

Explain your position instead of making an unruly comment. I'm coming from here: Nintendo's net worth has been at 9.4 Billion, right? EA is currently worth "over 15 billion", and according to Ripclawe, right under 18 billion dollars.

(estimates-currency fluctuations)
Actually Ea is at 17.6 billion and valued at about 30x earnings.(Good god I've never read anything more self fellating than their corporate report)
Nintendo is at 16.5 and way undervalued at 3.66x earnings. Nintendo has far more liquidity than EA and far more assets. Depending on how hard Nintendo was willing to ball they could grab a huge hunk of Ea in a hostile move.