Nintendo now the bluest stock in Japan; 85 billion dollar market value.
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BrodiemanTTR
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More dev acquisitions please.
Grampa Simpson
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I hope so. I still can't help but think it's overvalued. Their market cap is just not justified. The whole thing is making me feel awesome and queasy at the same time.nextgeneration said:
perfectchaos007
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bmf said:
Instability you say....
SELL SELL SELL
FitzOfRage
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davepoobond said:
That's true. But in Nintendo's case they happen to have a large market cap and a large cash reserve. They had nearly $6.5 billion in cash at the end of the last quarter.
White Man said:
Is a 9.1 from Gamespot a bad score nowadays? More importantly, was it a bad score in 2004?
Popular consensus may be that the second one is not as good as the first one, but it's far from a bad game, and Retro is far from a talentless failure studio. As I currently lack a Wii, I have no idea on Corruption, but the reviews make it look like another success. Soooo... again... talentless failures?
Grampa Simpson
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Not until January thank you very much.perfectchaos007 said:
Seriously? We're going to see a huge bump when they post their financials in a couple of weeks, and then again in January. After that is when I really expect it to correct downwards.
perfectchaos007
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JayDubya said:
They make great games, because they make the great games in the great state of Texas!
nextgeneration
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bmf said:
Yeah, ditto for me. Let's see what happens when they announce earnings. I'm expecting blowout numbers. Let's see if it really is overvalued once they announce earnings. I predict they're going to revise their numbers upwards again.
titiklabingapat
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Can anyone tell me how they can make this into real money and start funding thier Last Stand War with both MS and Sony?
Grampa Simpson
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The stock price is their perceived value by the market. The real money will be shown in the earnings reports.titiklabingapat said:
titiklabingapat
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Yeah, but how can they use that to their advantage?
Pokeylongo
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Does this have something to do with blue balls?
I'm interested in the financial earnings as that'll tell us if this market cap is actually worth it. The speed with which Nintendo has ascended to stock market heaven is a little scary, because that bubble could burst should another company come in and steal all of the thunder Nintendo has managed to acquire for itself. But Nintendo is also a frugal company and said bubble bursting wouldn't actually harm anything they're doing beyond a dip in their value and their stock price. They'd probably do all the same things they're doing now.
nextgeneration
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Alfarif said:
Yes, I cannot wait for earnings. Wouldn't it be something if once they announced earnings, this stock is actually undervalued? Probably not going to happen, but you never know...
nextgeneration said:
If I'm not mistaken, their Q2 earnings report is due out soon....
Q1 earnings was released at the end of July......so 3 months later, yeah.
capslock said:JayDubya, I don't think you spend too much time in the OnTopic forums, if you did you would know that Anihawk is being sarcastic
Well yeah, about Sony being untalented. They are pretty big failures this gen though. Also, none of the MP games really lit the sales charts on fire, so by that measure, Retro's not a resounding success either. I guess you could quote gamerankings, but that's not going to make me enjoy MP and MP2 any more.
you're handing game design decisions to corporate suits.DavidDayton said:
don't you think developers would put out better product if they had control over what games they made and on what platforms they made them on? contrary to what some of you believe, the platform can indeed be an important factor in a game's core design.
there's little harm in a platform holder publishing a game though, and it can often times be very beneficial. for this to happen, the developer is agreeing to it -- the developer is still making the key choices.
and unfortunately, some studios end up closing. if they're owned by a large corporation, it's simply at the whim of the large corporation. too many times, a developer joins a large corporation and is disbanded in the not too distant future. if a developer is independent, the only one deciding if they'll close is themselves.
nextgeneration
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mj1108 said:
Yup, earnings come out towards the end of this month.
titiklabingapat
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If everyone had what they want, the industry would be a wasteland. You need the suits as much as you need the creators themselves.
If the suits had all the power, we'd get nothing but FPS and minigame collections. If the creators had all the power, virtually nothing get's made at all.
If the suits had all the power, we'd get nothing but FPS and minigame collections. If the creators had all the power, virtually nothing get's made at all.
JayDubya said:
No, it's not a bad score, it's a bad review. MP2 wasn't a patch on the first game. I myself am not particularly a fan of the first game, but I can understand, to a degree, why it got the scores it did. MP2's reception, however, is a poster child for the irrelevance of game reviews.
MP3 is fine and dandy, though. One of the best games of the year and easily the best game on the Wii.
XiaNaphryz
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No, not necessarily. There are plenty of examples out there of independent developers with ambitious designs that end up as mediocre games.dfyb said:
And your first statement applies to ANY developer who's looking for a publisher...in many cases, the dev team still needs to make at least a few concessions in design.
Are you just trying to find any explanation to be contrary? Because there are bigger factors that apply here than developer design independence. Schedule and budget are far far bigger factors which often force developers into making those "key decisions" you mention, including closing down a studio. It's not exactly "their choice" if they run out of money and can't get any more investment capital.
titiklabingapat
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I never played the first two(crossing my fingers for Wiimakas...) but I would probably not like those two as much as I loved the third one just because of waggle and all that it entails(pacing, battle, etc).AniHawk said:
I got a Wii on day 1, because despite some concerns, I believed Nintendo would deliver as they did with the DS. I had a nice bell curve with the system, disliking it on week one, loving it for about a month, and then, well, there wasn't really much software to form an opinion on. If they had launched with MP3, I might have been a total hardcore believer from day 1. That was the killer app. That showed people how it was done. If it had come out at launch, we would have a number of competent shooters by now.
Pureauthor
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I don't understand people who buys systems at launch.
In fact, despite me apparently being a 'hardcore' gamer, I rarely understand hardcore gamer practices.
In fact, despite me apparently being a 'hardcore' gamer, I rarely understand hardcore gamer practices.
Pureauthor said:
Nintendo's got a good track record when it comes to hardware malfunctions (meaning, they don't have a lot). Also, I wanted Twilight Princess to be as "fresh" as possible. In hindsight, it was also a good decision since it'd be a lot harder to find one now.
My 2007 has looked like this:
Sonic: Fun for me. Skipped the story, suffered through quite a few bad levels, really enjoyed the good ones.
Super Paper Mario: Good, easy game that is too heavy on the text. Probably should've rented it.
RE4: Loved it, and thought the controls were great. Would've liked to have seen GC level textures on the extras at least, but it was $30 so it's not too bad.
MP3: The biggest surprise of the year. I loved it right from the action-packed beginning, which was a nice contrast to the more Metroidy/isolated parts later on.
And a couple DS and VC titles sprinkled in here and there. Last semester was rather hellish, so the release schedule worked with my schedule (and wallet) pretty well. However, it's not exactly what I expected from the system for its first 11 months.
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
bmf said:
Just imagine how much money they would make if they managed to gain clear dominance in the market, the way third parties are treating them now it could also end up giving them dominance as a game publisher. And I think that may be part of why they're so valued now.