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[Amin_Parker]

SquareEnix

This would be the best purchase that Nintendo could ever make. If they ever buy Square-Enix, I will literally have a heart attack, but I'll be happy because I can go in peace. In fact, if Nintendo ever wind up buying Square-Enix, Capcom and Konami , it will definitely put Nintendo permanently on top of the industry. Those are the main Japanese companies that could keep a console in 1st place permanently. Also if Nintendo ever bought Sega, it would be another great move because Sega owns Atlus, and with Atlus comes Shin Megami Tensei and Persona.

 

[bitbydeath]

The obvious answer would be likes of:
HAL Laboratory - Kirby / Smash Bros devs
GameFreak - Pokemon devs
Intelligent Systems - Paper Mario / Warioware devs
Camelot - Mario Sports devs
AlphaDream - Mario and Luigi devs
Good Feel - Princess Peach devs

The above is just some of the games those devs have made for Nintendo.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Nintendo is swimming in cash. Which studio should they buy??

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What is the value of Xbox?

 

[BlackTron]

How about the Palworld developer?

The lawsuit wouldn't matter then AND you could have them take over Pokémon development.

The trouble is, GameFreak is in charge of Pokemon development.

Nintendo can't put Pocketpair in charge of it any more than they can take over the reins themselves. That is why the games have so many problems.

 

[Azelover]

Terrible time to buy imo...

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Intelligent systems.

A 3rd party port studio

Another western studio

A European studio.

 

[Musashipan]

Valve and steam

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Sega
Level 5
Namco
Falcom
Capcom
Square Enix

 

[nnytk]

Nintendo should do whatever it needs to do, for Gamefreak to start producing Pokemon games that look like Genshin Impact or better.

 

[LordOcidax]

Nintendo should do whatever it needs to do, for Gamefreak to start producing Pokemon games that look like Genshin Impact or better.

If the game still selling more than 20M+, they are not going to change nothing. Pokemon is maybe the most profitable franchise in the video game scene.

 

[Elfstar]

Bro only Nintendo ultra fanboys would want an actually good studio to be stuck on some shitty underpowered handheld.

Fortunately Nintendo's way too stingy to do that.

 

[Trilobit]

They should buy SIE and EA to get the rights for Ape Escape, Sly Cooper, Burnout and SSX. They'd be unstoppable.

 

[LordOcidax]

Bro only Nintendo ultra fanboys would want an actually good studio to be stuck on some shitty underpowered handheld.

Fortunately Nintendo's way too stingy to do that.

Lol, Nintendo have at least 5 studios in the Top 10 of the most talented studios in the world… What are you talking about?

 

[Ecotic]

The problem with buying a larger, successful company such as Capcom, is that much of their value comes from selling large numbers of games through a multiplatform strategy. By going exclusive to Nintendo, the acquired company is presumably going to sell far fewer games. On top of that, Nintendo will have to pay a premium over the market price to acquire the company. So that is tantamount to lighting an enormous amount of money on fire right there, by making a multiplatform publisher exclusive to one platform. This problem was so severe that Microsoft had to become a third-party publisher after acquiring Activision, to avoid the tens of billions in destroyed value from not selling on other platforms.

The benefit to Nintendo from a major acquisition is an increase in sales of the Switch 2 and future hardware, the marketing bonus of being a first-party title, and the evergreen pricing that Nintendo's titles enjoy. Is that enough to overcome the huge loss in value from someone like Capcom selling millions of games on Playstation, PC, and Xbox? I wouldn't think so.

Nintendo buying smaller studios that make one or two games per generation makes more sense, provided they would majorly benefit from being a first-party title with evergreen pricing, along with the security that being a first-party studio can provide. Especially if they've partnered with Nintendo before to great success.

Perhaps Nintendo could acquire a larger company, but it would have to be a company that's undervalued or underutilized in some way, like maybe Sega with lots of unused IP and potential due to a lack of resources. Maybe they could benefit from Nintendo's umbrella, and many of Sega's games have brand overlap with the traditional Nintendo audience.

 

[Generic]

If the game still selling more than 20M+, they are not going to change nothing. Pokemon is maybe the most profitable franchise in the video game scene.

But they will change the price to $80 of course.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Gamefreak, fire everybody, hire new ppl and make a decent pokemon game.

 

[Spukc]

They should buy sony

 

[REDRZA MWS]

What they should buy are hardware engineers and reward their fans for that mountain of cash they are sitting on making toys instead of modern competitive consoles smh.

 

[Tams]

Redi ad inferos, Satana!

The important thing you aren't mentioning is that Sony makes over $90B in revenue and over $7B in profits per year, plus have a ton of valuable assets.

These are some of the main reasons of why Sony is valuated over 50% more than Nintendo.

If desired they could sell something and get rid of the debt or get more profit in the short term. But they don't, they prefer to invest in the long term to have in the future higher revenue and profits.

As an example they announced that will sell around 80% of their Financial Services this fall, and said that will spend this cash mostly on acquisitions mostly for their entertainment divisions (not in getting more profits or getting rid of the debt).


I'd say that with GaaS like Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing or Splatoon they already have enough.

There's also the fact that servicing debt can end up being cheaper than paying taxes on greater profits. Companies are in direct control of the debt, whereas benefits from taxes are indirect and not in their control.

 

[consoul]

Buying Sega would be the biggest power move. Taking their sworn rival of the 80's and just beheading them.

 

[Diddy X]

Ubisoft and Disney, both.

 

[CLW]

Naughty Dog just THINK of all the REMASTERS they could crank out for them

 

[VitoNotVito]

I have no doubt PlayStation Studios would produce more quality games and be much more productive under Nintendo

They would turn it into some infantile garbage.

 

[Lokaum D+]

I have no doubt PlayStation Studios would produce more quality games and be much more productive under Nintendo

 

[kevboard]

They would turn it into some infantile garbage.

that's what they already do. their game design is clearly designed for preschoolers.

 

[Mister Wolf]

But they will change the price to $80 of course.

They'll do that anyway.

 

[LordOcidax]

that's what they already do. their game design os clearly designed for preschoolers.

What is this… Systemwars on Gamespot 2005?

 

[AJUMP23]

Time to sell

 

[Kotaro]

Bro only Nintendo ultra fanboys would want an actually good studio to be stuck on some shitty underpowered handheld.

Fortunately Nintendo's way too stingy to do that.

Nintendo ranks third as most desirable employer in Japan. Number one as gaming company. No other gaming company comes close.

Nintendo Is Ranked The Third Most Sought-After Employer In Japan

Gee, wonder why?

www.nintendolife.com

They also have the highest retention rate in Japan. No other gaming company comes close

Nintendo Has One of the Highest Employee Retention Rates in Japan

98.8% compared to the national average of 70%.

80.lv

 

[DeceptiveAlarm]

I'd say that with GaaS like Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing or Splatoon they already have enough.

i agree. I was just being a dick due to Sony giving money to anyone that will make them a failed gaas game.

 

[KenaiPhoenix]

I dont think they should buy another studio, they should keep funding new studios. Besides, most of all "legendary" studios are already just a shell of their former self, keeping only the IPs and big managers with a big salary that joined after they made they mark in gaming industry.

Also just as a note (I understand the intention of this topic), that the company is worth all that money doesnt really mean it actually has some cash to buy something.

They don't need studios. They only need 1 person.

The Man(?), The Myth, The Legend... The Professor

The only one to save the industry, he was a hero but we just couldnt see it because of us toxicity

Rare!

If only... Microsoft already destroyed everything they have and sentence it to the live service mines.

 

[Kotaro]

Redi ad inferos, Satana!

The important thing you aren't mentioning is that Sony makes over $90B in revenue and over $7B in profits per year, plus have a ton of valuable assets.

These are some of the main reasons of why Sony is valuated over 50% more than Nintendo.

If desired they could sell something and get rid of the debt or get more profit in the short term. But they don't, they prefer to invest in the long term to have in the future higher revenue and profits.

As an example they announced that will sell around 80% of their Financial Services this fall, and said that will spend this cash mostly on acquisitions mostly for their entertainment divisions (not in getting more profits or getting rid of the debt).


I'd say that with GaaS like Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing or Splatoon they already have enough.

The ONLY reason Sony worths more is because they have many other divisions; movies, music, financial services, insurance, streaming services, TV and other electronics,

If Sony is only gaming company, they'd worth a lot less than Nintendo, because they have less IPs and their profit margin sucks

 

[kevboard]

What is this… Systemwars on Gamespot 2005?

No, in 2005 Sony actually didn't make dumbed down games yet.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

it'd be legendary

but I do hope, The Duskbloods will lead to greater things between Nintendo and From Soft

I imagine it will. From Software have some visual novels and I'm sure Nintendo'd like a few of those. And they do have other IP besides Dark Souls; there hasn't been a new Echo Night since ages ago for one.

Still surprised Nintendo got an exclusive out of them before SIE this gen. Then again, SIE turned down Duskbloods for....Foamstars and Concord :/ . So maybe it's not that surprising Nintendo were able to net it after all.

How about the Palworld developer?

The lawsuit wouldn't matter then AND you could have them take over Pokémon development.

They don't need them TBH

LOL. Yeah, I would definitely question who was running NCL if they had any debt, given their current balance sheet.

Switch has been their most profitable business ever, by far. Far eclipsing the DS/Wii era, which in hindsight was actually quite short-lived and caused a lot of negative domino effect for them from 2010-2016, which they finally cured with Switch.

I think with costs skyrocketing as they have been, Switch 2 will make them a lot of money, but I don't think they'll be as profitable during the Switch 2 generation as they were from 2017-2024. If they plan on remaining as profitable as before by selling games for $80 instead of $60-$70, I think the volume decline in software sales they would see would absolutely wipe out the price increase.

I have the opposite opinion. $80 isn't really that much an increase over $70, and Nintendo's core customer base will absolutely pay the price for what they feel are must-have games. Casuals may wait a bit longer for a sale, but they'll buy the game eventually, whenever Nintendo does temporary sales promotions. Plus it's not like all of their games will be $80, or even $70. Highly doubt Kirby Air Riders will be more than $60, for example.

Also worth mentioning, it's not like inflation is going to go away, so that will automatically add to their profit margin increases and boosts in revenue.

They should drop the price because it's good for consumers.

Westinghouse smart TVs are "good for customers" because they're cheap. I wouldn't buy another though because the quality is ass-water garbage.

 

[blacktout]

Most possible acquisitions don't really make sense for Nintendo.

They don't need to acquire other companies for their IP, because they already have such a vast and diverse portfolio of intellectual properties that many even potentially profitable ones lie fallow for years at a time.

Meanwhile, acquiring companies for development talent is extremely risky vs. contracting existing studios on a game-by-game basis, because if the talent jumps ship, you're left holding the bag. This is basically how Microsoft got screwed by the Rare acquisition. Like, imagine if Nintendo had bought Platinum a few years ago instead of just funding the development of Bayonetta 3 and Astral Chain. Maybe you wouldn't have seen Kamiya and others bail on the company, but if they had anyway, Nintendo would be SOL.

What I think Nintendo should do instead is take advantage of the current chaos in the western gaming industry by establishing a new studio in North America and one in Europe. That way they could poach talent that have been displaced by studio closures or who are unhappy with all the insecurity and disorganized trend chasing of recent years without having to place their trust in a snake oil salesman like Jade Raymond. They could import the studio's executive leadership directly from Japan or pluck them out of one of their existing western studios like Retro or Next Level Games to ensure that the studios reflect Nintendo's ethos and not the ideologies and broken incentives that have poisoned so much of the rest of the industry.

 

[ArtHands]

Imagine Naughty Dog making a proper Uncharted game on a Nintendo portable which they refuses to do for Playstation Vita

 

[CobraAB]

And yet Nintendo constantly nickel and dimes you.

 

[Icymanipulator]

Mihyoyo

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

And yet Nintendo constantly nickel and dimes you.

….Hence the $14 billion in cash

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

It should also be pointed out that Nintendo has had more than $14 billion in cash reserves before, and it wasn't a front page headline then. This is hardly the first time, aaand it's also not the most they've ever had in cash assets at one time. . In fact it's been trending downward.

 

[wolffy66]

Bungie is probably available

 

[DreamcastSkies]

I'd be interested in them acquiring the Dragon Quest IP. I'm not sure who they would need to buy. Armor Project owns Dragon Quest I think? I'd also be interested in them buying Sega. I think they would let Sega be Sega (just with some Nintendo sensibility). I think the games Sega makes could appeal to gamers that just don't find any Nintendo IP appealing.

 

[yurinka]

There's also the fact that servicing debt can end up being cheaper than paying taxes on greater profits. Companies are in direct control of the debt, whereas benefits from taxes are indirect and not in their control.

True, this is another perk of getting debt. On top of this, bigger profits also means bigger dividends they have to pay.

Meaning, keeping profits lower they save payments on taxes or dividends plus reinvesting that money (plus the one from debt) in let's say making more games or acquisitions instead of keeping it in the bank also means that in the long term they'll make.

On top of this, having lower profits and bigger debt decreases their stock valuation, something good for when -as it has been the case of Sony in recent years and plan to continue doing it for the mid term- the company buys back company stocks.

 

[phant0m]

For Maximum Lulz

Spoiler

Valve Software

 

[Kotaro]

I imagine it will. From Software have some visual novels and I'm sure Nintendo'd like a few of those. And they do have other IP besides Dark Souls; there hasn't been a new Echo Night since ages ago for one.

Still surprised Nintendo got an exclusive out of them before SIE this gen. Then again, SIE turned down Duskbloods for....Foamstars and Concord :/ . So maybe it's not that surprising Nintendo were able to net it

Nintendo usually does long term collaboration, like with Mercury Steam, Platinum where they got 3-4 games out of them. I wouldn't be surprised if they got more than one exclusive from From Soft

Kadokawa is only worth 3.2 billion (Sony bought 10% of the company for 320 million) From Soft is probably around 1 billion dollar. Nintendo could easily buy them outright or just 60-70% of the company

 

[F31 Leopard]

Mistwalker. I need a The Last Story remaster and sequel. Also Gooch can team up with Takahashi and make an actual spiritual successor to Chrono Trigger. Can't go wrong with Monolith + Mistwalker combo under Nintendo.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

Buy Rare back from MS, what a waste

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Buy Rare back from MS, what a waste

Wouldn't change anything, talent is long gone like with most og studios.

 

[Kotaro]

Buy Rare back from MS, what a waste

Nah, Rare is washed out, anything touched by MS is pretty much wasted

 

[fallingdove]

This would be the best purchase that Nintendo could ever make. If they ever buy Square-Enix, I will literally have a heart attack, but I'll be happy because I can go in peace. In fact, if Nintendo ever wind up buying Square-Enix, Capcom and Konami , it will definitely put Nintendo permanently on top of the industry. Those are the main Japanese companies that could keep a console in 1st place permanently. Also if Nintendo ever bought Sega, it would be another great move because Sega owns Atlus, and with Atlus comes Shin Megami Tensei and Persona.

These would be terrible moves. Nintendo makes spectacular family friendly games. They know absolutely nothing about making mature, graphically demanding games. Stop sending these moronic ideas out into the universe. We saw what happened when Xbox fanboys begged the video game gods for a massive studio shopping spree.

Nintendo needs to just continue being Nintendo.