baxter2231
Member
Almost like buying a new car with no tires. Lols thats seperate just take the tires off your old car.
Nintendo statement on lack of adaptor in NA.
- Thread starter axisofweevils
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Your argument is based on "your feelings"?
Okay then.
Whatever facts I bring to the table, there is no way to convince someone who is espousing belief drawn from emotion.
When you wish to have an actual argument, get back to me.
Of course this is about feeling. Enjoying videogames is a subjective experience.
The only facts you've brought to the table have been completely irrelevant to your argument. Have a good one Laconic, I have shit to do for now.
WrenchNinja
Member
For someone who doesn't care, you sure seem to care a lot that other people have issue with this.
What about this is quality to you? How is this a premium product? Quality and premium would be the user being treated well.
Societal norms, right. Gee, I wonder why it's a societal norm that electronics should work out of the box.
This is such a shitty move honestly. Working in retail this was particularly annoying to deal with on the Kindle Fires.
"What do you mean it doesn't come with a charger? How do I charge it?"
"Well it comes with a USB cable so you can plug it into a computer or if you have an adapter from a phone or a previous tablet with a USB entrance you can use that too...."
Not only that we were consistently out of stock of the charger and never seemed to receive any so it had to be ordered online. I had to have this conversation and many variations of it all dealing with the fact that the tablet didn't come with the fucking wall charger. So much so I flat out refused to recommend the Kindle Fire to anyone looking to buy a tablet. Especially since customers would get angry with me, like if I had say on why the manufacturer decided to cheap out. Fuck this practice and I really hope this comes back to bite them in the ass, but it unfortunately likely won't.
"What do you mean it doesn't come with a charger? How do I charge it?"
"Well it comes with a USB cable so you can plug it into a computer or if you have an adapter from a phone or a previous tablet with a USB entrance you can use that too...."
Not only that we were consistently out of stock of the charger and never seemed to receive any so it had to be ordered online. I had to have this conversation and many variations of it all dealing with the fact that the tablet didn't come with the fucking wall charger. So much so I flat out refused to recommend the Kindle Fire to anyone looking to buy a tablet. Especially since customers would get angry with me, like if I had say on why the manufacturer decided to cheap out. Fuck this practice and I really hope this comes back to bite them in the ass, but it unfortunately likely won't.
CosmicQueso
Member
Well, the product certainly is NOT more appealing to consumers because of this. So some sales will surely be lost by the decision. But I guess someone at Nintendo said (Charger Savings)x(Number of People Buying) > (Profit per unit)x(Number of Consumers Lost). Strange gamble for them to make.
Obviously you are not.
As this post shows, it's not like they need help in lowering 3DS sales
They get the message all the time that their policies are moronic. They don't care. It's also pretty clear that they don't expect to attract new customers with the new 3DS, otherwise there would be a charger of some kind in the box. They know this thing is going to sell to the Nintendo faithful, and Nintendo gives zero fucks about screwing over the faithful.
But their choice to not include a cable that would have cost them less than a dollar to produce actually ended up losing them a 200 dollar sale from me. I hope it was worth it to them.
It just seems to anti consumer. I mean, every single device I've ever bought AT least comes with a USB cable. Every single one. What are they thinking.
CosmicQueso
Member
It's mind boggling. But, to be fair, kinda been asking that same question since 2012.
DragonSworne
Banned
Smells like an Iwata decision. Knew him becoming President of NoA was a bad idea.
They're thinking, "For every unit we sell without a 50 cent cable, we make 50 extra cents. And then we make an additional 10 dollars if that consumer buys our branded power adapter along with the 3DS".
And yes, not including a proprietary cable that is required to power the device is as anti-consumer as you can get.
Demon Lizardman
Banned
So the lesser of two evils is Reggie?
CosmicQueso
Member
I keep thinking and asking myself what could be more anti-consumer than this decision, realistically.
Like you, I come up completely blank.
It's just the craziest damned thing.
Tevious
Member
I hope the next time Reggie goes out to buy a new car, this is what they tell him.
Haha
Fudgepuppy
Banned
When I bought my 3DS XL, I bought a charger for 4$ in the store as I was trading in my regular 3DS.
No problem really.
No problem really.
CosmicQueso
Member
Did it improve your experience? Was your decision to buy made easier because of this? Were you happier that the second purchase had to be made? Was the product more appealing because of this? Was this your preferred way of spending the extra $4?
Is this the club Nintendo survey?
You can hold it in your hands as you shuffle across the carpet in wool socks.
So Nintendo was wrong then. They claim they're doing this because they know you already have a charger. But you didn't. You had to make an extra purchase. Know what else isn't a problem? Nintendo putting one in the box for you. Like every other company on the planet does.
Watch it with the big words, homie.
CosmicQueso
Member
Oh, you also void your warranty if you use a 3rd party adapter. So... either have one already or pony up.
Of all the petty things for you guys to run in circles with, this is probably the lowest.
There is no way for them to tell if you used their charger or a third party charger unless you are stupid enough to tell them. There is no data detection on the power connector. The reason they have that warning is so that you don't try to plug your 3DS into a fucking 10W draw and have it blow up in your face.
If you think it's okay that it's mentioned on the back of the box, remember that retailers often keep handheld consoles in glass cases where consumers get way less exposure to the packaging. But I'm sure the electronics guys at Target are going to have a good time explaining to all buyers about the charger when they open the cases. Subtle way to pass the buck, Nintendo.
Edit: didn't realize there was a line on the front about it. The basic point still stands: glass cases reduce exposure to packaging warnings.
Edit: didn't realize there was a line on the front about it. The basic point still stands: glass cases reduce exposure to packaging warnings.
Cbajd5
Member
This is not a warning
This is tiny ass fine print that they're trying to make you not notice
It's a bad joke really.
Wait, the normal new Nintendo 3DS is coming to North America? And the Ambassador Edition at that? And has the exact same box as the EU release?
Considering this is about the North American situation and all.
Because for all of us with normal, non-privileged information we only know that the front of the box looks like this and the back of the box like this. Which isn't any better, but at least is for the right region. And not hastily screencapped images from a youtube video. On a phone.
CosmicQueso
Member
Calling your fellow consumers "petty"... in this thread... on this topic... is the single most hilarious thing I think I've ever read on GAF.
Think of the Nintendo. Maybe we need to start passing the hat, or start a telethon, or send donations. Is there a number I can call where $10 can just be added to my phone bill?
……forgetit
Member
They'll get the message
that handheld gaming in the us is dead and then we won't get anything else.
Calling you petty? Try reading that again, I said that that was a very petty subject matter to pin yourselves to because it has nothing to actually do with the topic at hand. The 3DS does not have any data flow over the power connection, its purely for charging the battery. The reaosn it (and every other device on the planet that has a power draw-only connector) says to use the packaged charger is so that you don't try to plug it into something utterly bizarre and have it blow up. They cannot tell if you plugged it into a wall socket, a computer, or a nuclear power plant. But if it blows up or the battery melts, well more than likely, that was your own fault and they can't be held responsible. That is what that warranty is about.
The lack of an adapter is a fine thing to be pissed about, I don't like it.
But the subject matter of warnings? You guys are reaching, just as much as the shot of the EU embassador box was reaching for showing how "hidden" the warning is when, for NA, the front of the box has "No Adapter" slapped on it.
There's having a point, and then there's warping reality to suit a narrative that has no point.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah the retail boxes show it in the front.
The warning label does suck though.
For comparison:
Japan only has label in back.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
That's the attitude companies want to see from consumers.
Nintendo can sell their next console ala cart. It's only $349* for the New Nintendo that comes with one controller!
*Power supply, AV Cable, and memory all sold seperately.
Cbajd5
Member
Yeah the retail boxes show it in the front.
The warning label does suck though.
For comparison:
Left is no AC I think.
I don't know Japanese, but if you're talking about the red rectangle in the lower left corner of the front of the box I think that's just pointing out the bigger screen size.
That bundle's webpage has a bit about the no AC Adapter with a similar logo (the plug in circle thing) to the US warning.
That just says bigger screen.
The warning is on the back, also you'll get told about it whenever you buy one.
CosmicQueso
Member
They obviously care deeply about how and with what consumers will charge their new 3DS's.
I feel cared about, very much.
And holy shit saying I'm warping reality to suit a "narrative"? I mean, really?
Whatever man. Have a good weekend.
TheSlySoul
Member
Ah gotcha. Guess no JPN consoles include a warning in front.
……forgetit
Member
I was jokeing man, by all means if you don't like the practice, don't buy it.
TheSlySoul
Member
Found an EU box.
So tiny. At least cover plates is mentioned, but no AC is littler than the rating.
So tiny. At least cover plates is mentioned, but no AC is littler than the rating.
Cbajd5
Member
Yeah, I don't think they do. Although this belief is based on the NSMB2/AC:NF/MH:whatever bundle images and whatever image Amazon has for an import normal black 3DS LL.
Found an EU box.
So tiny.
I think the size is less of a problem than the Red warning on half Red area of the box. Although all of this is really unrelated to the NA comment/decision this topic is about.
Come now, we don't need men made of straw. This is covering-you-ass-legal-practice-101. It'd be hell-of-a-lot easier on them and everyone else if they just went with standard micro-usb but, more than likely, either the 3DS is contractually bound to the connection or they didn't want to pull a DSi and change it mid-gen.
I'm not ranting. You guys are making up some crazy stretches in here. Just because I don't agree with the extent to which you've now taken this (showing EU boxes, talking about warranties voids that have no way to be enforced aside from obvious cases of you plugging in a 120 into a 240 and wondering why your battery is melting), doesn't mean I am ranting or existing outside of reality.
There is 100% reasonable ground to be unhappy with not including a charger, no one should be happy about that.
There is no reasonable ground to be showing boxes of EU Embassador 3DS... which come with a charger as part of the package... or talking about warranty voids for a connector that cannot identify what is even connected to it. Unless your only goal is to fuel a narrative, of course. Everyone loves to fuel narratives.
The uproar is really weird considering you would imagine the vast majority of people following internet news on a new Nintendo handheld and intend to buy it already own a 3DS. If you spent all these years without owning a 3DS I'd definitely find it curious that multi-angle 3D support, amiibo scanning and a xenoblade port was what finally convinced you to splash out.
TheSlySoul
Member
Oh, I know.
Was just saying parents will have a hard time during the holidays.
It is nice that the word is spreading since Nintendo wants to hide the fact by putting it on the bottom in tiny text.
Also if like Wii U basic was, retailers are going to bundle the extras at no cost if they do not sell.
Found an EU box.
So tiny. At least cover plates is mentioned, but no AC is littler than the rating.
I think not including an AC adapter sucks, but I mean, I clearly see the warning. It's not even missable unless you aren't reading the box at all.
There are 22 words on the front of the box, 9 of which are the AC adapter warning.
If they wanted to hide it, it'd be on the back in tiny font.
Of the box in question, 40% of the wording (that thing which catches human attention), is a warning.
Funyarinpa
Member
There are many people that would just come across the New 3DS without knowing about the 3DS at all. Even if they did follow the scene, they might not necessarily know that a N3DS comes without a charger. Furthermore, there are tens/hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people that haven't bought/were interested in a 3DS.
Everybody on this thread, if they buy a N3DS, knows they'll have to go and buy a charger.
There are thousands of people who do not, and won't until they open the box.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I agree with most of this. However, the EU Ambassador 3DS didn't include a charger.
Didn't it come as part of the overall package?