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[Mozza]

I think people are getting to worked up over this story in the U.S. We are still two months away from launch so who cares when the pre-orders go live as long as you get one. I very much doubt the price will increase. And you guys have been paying over the odds for regular things like groceries and gasoline for the last four years... Now a console might go up a little and some people are losing their minds all of a sudden.

 

[Crayon]

Fascinating twist to see who the real communists turned out to be

You do NOT need a home.
You do NOT need clean water.
You do NOT need due process.

You WANT them.

 

[GHound]

I thought the R word was a no-no word for those types.

You shouldn't expect consistency from the mentally ill I'm afraid.

 

[chromhound]

Do the world a favor and kill yourself.

 

[Ritsumei2020]

Tariffs go directly to the US government, right? So this is basically the US government taxing its own citizens?

This has got nothing to do with Nintendo. Let the US people figure out their own affairs and politics.

If people are happy with it, great. If people are not happy with it, well…do something about it? Doesn't affect anybody else but themselves.

 

[navii]

Yah this will be an excuse to price gauge everyone all over the world. Just like they used covid to rise prices that mysteriously didn't go back down after the COVID craziness. Companies will use any excuse to screw us.

I already see this with audio equipment where Chinese manufacturers just raised the prices and you pay the US price no matter where you're from.

 

[XXL]

You do NOT need a home.
You do NOT need clean water.
You do NOT need due process.

 

[VAVA Mk2]

a lot of dumb people on this board thought that nintendo had, and get this, "baked in the tariffs" into the original price. These stupid people did not look at the EU prices, apparently.

US original price: $449
EU price: 469

That's what happens when you have a double digit IQ.

I've always preferred the term "room temperature IQ."

 

[LiquidMetal14]

It doesn't fooking take a genius to to figure this out. It's a tax on import paid by consumers of the country that introduce it.

Edit: Importer may choose to bear the part or whole of it or pass it entirely on the consumer. Since they are a business not a charity. It will almost certainly be passed to consumer.

I think we're going to be ok. This country and world has needed a Dave Ramsey exam for the longest time.

As an adult, I'll be ok I want everybody to be okay including yourself as well

 

[RoboFu]

i want to preorder now

 

[GHG]

i want to preorder now

You can, you just need to wait until it's...

 

[anyasok]

Good luck selling this outdated piece of shit at a new higher price

 

[Thaimasker]

I think people are getting to worked up over this story in the U.S. We are still two months away from launch so who cares when the pre-orders go live as long as you get one. I very much doubt the price will increase. And you guys have been paying over the odds for regular things like groceries and gasoline for the last four years... Now a console might go up a little and some people are losing their minds all of a sudden.

I don't think the markets are in free fall, people are losing trillions collectively , jp Morgan is saying there will now most likely be a reccission this year, and inflation going up on pretty much everything is because a console might go up a little.

Pretty much the world has been paying more for groceries post covid, not just the u.s

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

depending on how this develops, prices may not increase after all.

Almost like its working as intended?

 

[nial]

Do you think milking the Switch 1 until the very last day and not straight up launching the Switch 2 back in March 2024 (standard 7 year lifecycle) has come to bite Nintendo? Woopah

 

[Mozza]

I don't think the markets are in free fall, people are losing trillions collectively , jp Morgan is saying there will now most likely be a reccission this year, and inflation going up on pretty much everything is because a console might go up a little.

Pretty much the world has been paying more for groceries post covid, not just the u.s

Inflation was going up under the previous administration. And the Switch 2 should be more expensive if you take that into account.

 

[Zannegan]

Am I reading this right?: Vietnam wants to make a deal to bring tarrifs down to 0, so Nintendo delays preorders to make sure they can take advantage of this rate.

Are the reciprocal tariffs actually working, or is the price of Switch 2 about to jump to $600?

...or is it both? -_-

 

[Great Auk]

Tariffs go directly to the US government, right? So this is basically the US government taxing its own citizens?

This has got nothing to do with Nintendo. Let the US people figure out their own affairs and politics.

If people are happy with it, great. If people are not happy with it, well…do something about it? Doesn't affect anybody else but themselves.

You know what's funny, the EU has an average VAT of 22%, which is literally just a tax.

The US has something between 2% and 10% sales tax depending on state, so if people just consider the tariffs like a bigger VAT then what's the difference?

The EU didn't collapse because of a 22% VAT, but all of sudden if we put some baseline tariffs in place that for most states won't even equate to the 22% VAT, that's the end of the world?

 

[nbcjr]

If that is the case then why are the "rich" countries implementing and maintaining tariffs against the US to begin with?

You do know that the 'tariffs' DT implemented have nothing to do with other countries' tariffs, right? it was based on trade deficit, and even countries with surplus got 10%

 

[Gamer79]

The sad thing is Nintendo could make the Switch 2 $800 and make the games $250 a piece and some Nintendo cucks will still pay it

 

[Idleyes]

I for one get what the Trump administration is trying to do, but I can't help but think that some Americans that voted for him believe manufacturing Jobs still look like this

When they look like this

Even if they live long enough to see the rewards, they might be disappointed to realize they're still being left behind.

 

[XXL]

Almost like its working as intended?

 

[StueyDuck]

I for one get what the Trump administration is trying to do, but I can't help but think that some Americans that voted for him believe manufacturing Jobs still look like this

When they look like this

Even if they live long enough to see the rewards, they might be disappointed to realize they're still being left behind.

I know that's what most people think, and you are correct.

But I think he is aiming more at the production of things like steel and plastics, which are also heavily automated. But what i mean is for the US to have less reliance on global powers like China, which right now literally make just about everything for the US (and the globe)

 

[PeteBull]

Am I reading this right?: Vietnam wants to make a deal to bring tarrifs down to 0, so Nintendo delays preorders to make sure they can take advantage of this rate.

Are the reciprocal tariffs actually working, or is the price of Switch 2 about to jump to $600?

...or is it both? -_-

What if vietnam makes a deal with trump, and ninny still uses tariffs as an excuse to get their new console price to:

 

[Great Auk]

You do know that the 'tariffs' DT implemented have nothing to do with other countries' tariffs, right? it was based on trade deficit, and even countries with surplus got 10%

Yes, I indicated as such on a follow up post.

 

[wolffy66]

You know what's funny, the EU has an average VAT of 22%, which is literally just a tax.

The US has something between 2% and 10% sales tax depending on state, so if people just consider the tariffs like a bigger VAT then what's the difference?

The EU didn't collapse because of a 22% VAT, but all of sudden if we put some baseline tariffs in place that for most states won't even equate to the 22% VAT, that's the end of the world?

Vats and tariffs aren't the same thing. Sales tax and vats would be more similar. They are equally charged to everything applicable. Tariffs pick what you should buy

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Do the world a favor and kill yourself.

Reported

 

[Branded]

Lol at thinking this just will effect video games. Prices across the board will skyrocket and the fed will probably increase rates which will increase inflation to avoid stagflation.

Look at the markets, it's far from just Nintendo's stock that is going down lmao.

YES.

You can either keep kicking the can across the road or bite the bullet and deal with it head on. Wtf do you lot want lol.

One of these days you're going to get an administration in the US that has to take extreme measures to get the country back where it needs to be.

 

[analog_future]

don't ya'll know that affording stuff is woke

 

[Great Auk]

Vats and tariffs aren't the same thing. Sales tax and vats would be more similar. They are equally charged to everything applicable. Tariffs pick what you should buy

You are correct of course, my point was the VAT is overall a higher "tax" on goods then the tariff amount would be in the US.

If anything it's worse in EU since everything gets slapped with the VAT like you said, unlike things made in the USA which would be exempt from the proposed tariffs.

I also find it amusing that countries do in fact implement actual tariffs against American goods (not the numbers posted by the American President) and yet those were all fine and dandy all these years?

Why? They can do it but when we do it it's bad? Rules for me but for thee I see.

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

You know what's funny, the EU has an average VAT of 22%, which is literally just a tax.

The US has something between 2% and 10% sales tax depending on state, so if people just consider the tariffs like a bigger VAT then what's the difference?

The EU didn't collapse because of a 22% VAT, but all of sudden if we put some baseline tariffs in place that for most states won't even equate to the 22% VAT, that's the end of the world?

It's also the fact that the US is alienating/isolating themselves from the rest of the world. There's going to be catastrophic consequences to that. This Nintendo news is childs play compared to where we're headed unless we reverse course. This is just one of the first/most direct consequences.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

don't ya'll know that affording stuff is woke

That's why I never sleep

 

[Ristifer]

If Musk doesn't deserve credit for his companies - no person on earth deserves credit for his companies. He put all of his money from Paypal in Tesla and SpaceX when everyone told him he was crazy. His first principles thinking helped him break down the costs of all the components of electric cars and rockets and made him convinced he could make a success of it. Remember all manufacturing at SpaceX and Tesla is in-house - which was his doing. Now his space company controls almost all space launches and travel. His electric car company single-handedly created the electric car industry. It's amazing how delusional people can be to not give someone they dislike credit. If you think he's the devil fine, but at least give the devil his due.

That's a nice fairy tale. Still doesn't mean he built it all himself and is self-made. Your first sentence is almost getting the point, though.

 

[Great Auk]

You voted for a promise that things would get cheaper you get what you deserve for trusting a liar

Why would he do this if he didn't really think it would make America more self reliant and bring some of the manufacturing back, especially in strategic sectors and overall lower the tariffs other countries already charge the US?

He didn't need to do this, his legacy was pretty much secure with the comeback win and was chilling.
He's pretty much staking his entire legacy on this, and you know he cares very much about how people perceived him. He's got everything to lose with this move.

 

[Fabieter]

You know what's funny, the EU has an average VAT of 22%, which is literally just a tax.

The US has something between 2% and 10% sales tax depending on state, so if people just consider the tariffs like a bigger VAT then what's the difference?

The EU didn't collapse because of a 22% VAT, but all of sudden if we put some baseline tariffs in place that for most states won't even equate to the 22% VAT, that's the end of the world?

I mean vat is not exactly the same as tariffs because depending on the case you can get it fully back. Dont know how vats work on the us tho.

**Can you get the import VAT back?**

Yes, if you are a VAT-registered business and the goods are brought into the country for business use, you can reclaim the import VAT through your VAT return.

**How it works:**

1. You import goods from outside the EU (e.g., from the US or China).
2. You pay import VAT (usually 19%) to German customs.
3. Since you're a business, this VAT is not a real cost.
4. You can deduct the same amount as input VAT in your regular VAT return.
5. This reduces your total VAT payment or results in a refund.

**Requirements:**

- You must be the importer of record (your name must be on the customs documents).
- The goods must be used for business purposes.

**Example:**

- You import goods worth €10,000.
- You pay €1,900 import VAT to customs.
- You include €1,900 as input VAT in your next VAT return.
- The tax office refunds you or offsets it against your VAT liability.

In short: You pay import VAT at the border, but if you're a business and follow the rules, you get that money back through your tax return.

 

[ItsGreat]

Everyone should sleep on carpet like me, comrade, and always work. You must have many kids, but if you spend time with them instead of working, comrade, you are weak. Bring them to work to work with you, they are of working age at 4.

I'm sorry. But communism isn't slavery. I don't really understand what you're trying to pastiche here.it sounds more like the way the west treats factory workers in Asia to maintain cheap goods.

 

[Ashamam]

You do know that the 'tariffs' DT implemented have nothing to do with other countries' tariffs, right? it was based on trade deficit, and even countries with surplus got 10%

You shouldn't be surprised. A quick glance at Fox News has the biggest story in the country not even on the front page lol. The US is cooked. You have a country with media of all types prepared to gaslight the population, a population prepared to devalue education so long as it doesn't impact them and low information takes like they have VAT so whats wrong with a few tariffs? Well maybe because VAT is on ALL goods including those made in their own country, so by definition neutral and fair in trade terms.

Then there is as you say the fact the so called reciprocal tariffs was basically an intern putting the relative import/export into a spreadsheet per country (and in some cases tiny islands that are part of Australia and have false trade data in system rofl) do a division, call that the 'tariff' imbalance and if actually in favour of the US set a floor of 10%. You sure know how to pick intelligent people for your administration.

Whats really hilarious is I'm seeing people in here supposedly educated on board with this. Buying into the whole 'poor US' shtick as if a global tariff war is the answer to the US losing manufacturing to specific low income countries. Nah lets just fuck everyone, including close allies, sounds good right? You have no idea how the rest of world is viewing you as a country right now do you?

 

[Dorfdad]

Breaking News:

All Free To Play Games are now $29.99 on switch due to tariffs

 

[Fabieter]

I know that's what most people think, and you are correct.

But I think he is aiming more at the production of things like steel and plastics, which are also heavily automated. But what i mean is for the US to have less reliance on global powers like China, which right now literally make just about everything for the US (and the globe)

There is basically tariff for the whole world so I doubt it's just about China.

Does anyone think that other handheld like steamdeck will eat the costs of the tariffs or will we see the deck costs more than a grand the next few month.

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

Why would he do this if he didn't really think it would make America more self reliant and bring some of the manufacturing back, especially in strategic sectors and overall lower the tariffs other countries already charge the US?

He didn't need to do this, his legacy was pretty much secure with the comeback win and was chilling.
He's pretty much staking his entire legacy on this, and you know he cares very much about how people perceived him. He's got everything to lose with this move.

He is attempting to become the CEO of America. The CEO of CEOs . Have you wondered why companies/CEOs aren't throwing shit fits about all of this? It's because they are tarrified (not a spelling error) to speak up. If they do, he now has the power to destroy their company/wealth. He wants total power and control.

 

[damidu]

Almost like its working as intended?

 

[EviLore]

But communism isn't slavery.

Communism fits the definition of slavery in practice. Forced labour without fair compensation and lack of individual autonomy.

 

[Azelover]

Do you think milking the Switch 1 until the very last day and not straight up launching the Switch 2 back in March 2024 (standard 7 year lifecycle) has come to bite Nintendo? Woopah

They wouldn't have the games ready. Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom remastered isn't enough to carry major hardware like this.

It couldn't come sooner. Maybe it would be best to delay It further instead. That's possible..

 

[Radical Dreamer]

Almost like its working as intended?

>get the majority of the world's nations to come to the table offering significant reductions
>cambodia

XDDDDDDDD

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

You shouldn't be surprised. A quick glance at Fox News has the biggest story in the country not even on the front page lol. The US is cooked. You have a country with media of all types prepared to gaslight the population, a population prepared to devalue education so long as it doesn't impact them and low information takes like they have VAT so whats wrong with a few tariffs? Well maybe because VAT is on ALL goods including those made in their own country, so by definition neutral and fair in trade terms.

Then there is as you say the fact the so called reciprocal tariffs was basically an intern putting the relative import/export into a spreadsheet per country (and in some cases tiny islands that are part of Australia and have false trade data in system rofl) do a division, call that the 'tariff' imbalance and if actually in favour of the US set a floor of 10%. You sure know how to pick intelligent people for your administration.

Whats really hilarious is I'm seeing people in here supposedly educated on board with this. Buying into the whole 'poor US' shtick as if a global tariff war is the answer to the US losing manufacturing to specific low income countries. Nah lets just fuck everyone, including close allies, sounds good right? You have no idea how the rest of world is viewing you as a country right now do you?

I would actually respond to you but most don't really want to hear how people here were feeling under the last administration and how poor the other choice was

 

[Goalus]

Especially since us companies also benefit from more countries getting richer over time. Look at steam having like half their user ass coming from China.

Half their user ass?

 

[Ashamam]

Communism fits the definition of slavery in practice.

Why are people even talking about communism? Its held up as the big bad enemy except I don't think it actually still exists anywhere in the world? Its a terrible system that failed. You all should be a lot more worried about autocracy over there imho. You know the style of government that your fearless leader really really admires.

 

[nial]

They wouldn't have the games ready. Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom remastered isn't enough to carry major hardware like this.

It couldn't come sooner. Maybe it would be best to delay It further instead. That's possible..

They don't really much ready at this point, either, and Super Mario Party Jamboree could have carried it until the end of the year.

 

[FewRope]

Why are people even talking about communism? Its held up as the big bad enemy except I don't think it actually still exists anywhere in the world? Its a terrible system that failed. You all should be a lot more worried about autocracy over there imho. You know the style of government that your fearless leader really really admires.

Decades of neolib education

 

[Fabieter]

Half their user ass?

It was a hyperbole to emphasize my point. It's about the same as the switch 1 userbase in the us actually around 35%.