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No. Wired only which sucks.
thatJohann
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So it seems that left joy con issue is in fact a thing? I keep reading mentions of it on the reviews. That's not good. And why hasn't Nintendo said a thing yet? I'll wait for a newer revision of the hardware down the line after the iron out the kinks.
jobrro
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Hopefully they care enough to patch this in either the day one update or shortly after.
Very strange decision.
Kingpin Rogers
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Is it possible the day one update isn't out yet because they're looking into a last second joycon fix to be added into the patch? Or would they just release the initial day one update as originally planned and then a joycon fix later?
Yeah I very much do not understand comments like that in regards to the switch's hardware.
King of Cups
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I'm guessing because the signal refreshes faster with software upscale than just changing the signal display...?
Actual guess.
Kaneda Shotaro
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But IGN, why not a 6.6 or a 6.8? Always a terrible scoring system. I give that review number a 4.18
And WaveRace 64
Garrett Hawke
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I really think DF's is the best review, it's very informative and realistic about the capabilities and what to expect.
I think if they embargo'd for march 6th, it would have gave a negative vibe all around. so it was a catch 22 for them regardless.
MikeBison
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Hardware reviews make very little sense in isolation, rather I've learnt more from the impressions and videos over the last couple of weeks. The shortcomings of the system are plain to see. But It has some excellent features.
Overall, I feel like Nintendo are putting a good foot forward and the system will live or die on the support it receives. It gets off to a strong start by the simple fact that in a couple of days we get to play a (what might well be the very best Zelda) full scale Zelda game on the go and at home.
Indie support seems great and in a month or so's time we can tear around in Mario kart and then take the console out of the house, snap off a controller and play multiplayer MK incredibly easily.
Same goes for Splatoon etc. Then the end of the year a new 3D Mario. Again, could be an instant classic.
The possibility to play amazing Nintendo first party games on the go and at home is a tantalising prospect. People like IGN telling me that the online infrastructure isn't already in place is a total moot point.
Edit:
Hardare reviews maybe make sense more for someone who wants Switch as their only console. If that's the case, it maybe makes sense to wait until fall. But for most of us, this is our 'Nintendo machine'. Never going to compete for the living room the way the PS4 or even XB1 does in terms of it's features like Netlfix etc etc.
Overall, I feel like Nintendo are putting a good foot forward and the system will live or die on the support it receives. It gets off to a strong start by the simple fact that in a couple of days we get to play a (what might well be the very best Zelda) full scale Zelda game on the go and at home.
Indie support seems great and in a month or so's time we can tear around in Mario kart and then take the console out of the house, snap off a controller and play multiplayer MK incredibly easily.
Same goes for Splatoon etc. Then the end of the year a new 3D Mario. Again, could be an instant classic.
The possibility to play amazing Nintendo first party games on the go and at home is a tantalising prospect. People like IGN telling me that the online infrastructure isn't already in place is a total moot point.
Edit:
Hardare reviews maybe make sense more for someone who wants Switch as their only console. If that's the case, it maybe makes sense to wait until fall. But for most of us, this is our 'Nintendo machine'. Never going to compete for the living room the way the PS4 or even XB1 does in terms of it's features like Netlfix etc etc.
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Reviews seem to all basically be like 9/10 for handheld mode with battery drain being the main issue. Then more like 6 or 7/10 for console mode depending upon how much the joy con sync fucked with you and how much of a bitch the setup is in your entertainment center.
To be expected honestly.
*Shrugs*
To be expected honestly.
*Shrugs*
Schnozberry
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IGN can't really do math, then. The Wii GPU was 20x slower than the Xbox 360, and 19x slower than the PS3.
In this case, we're talking about the PS4 and Xbox One being 3-4x more powerful, and that's before considering any potential differences in architectural efficiency.
Is it Day 1 yet?
Or were they supposed to release it before the hardware embargo? (I don't know).
Manmademan
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The problem with that strategy is that narratives can be tough to break. If the narrative around the system is that it has no games worth playing other than Zelda (which isn't exclusive to the system) then you're not going to get the mainstream buzz that made the PS2, the Wii, and the PS4 a hit with casuals.
Personally I think the delay is only going to hurt it...between now and Christmas is long enough for the word to get out that while this looks like a tablet, it has none of a tablet's functionality.
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow. The exact time can be found in the OP.
facetheslayer92
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6 AM EST March 2
The Futurist
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I'm still getting one, but all these reviews say pretty much the same thing.
It's best to wait if you're not dying to have it at launch.
Not sure why they made such ridiculous hardware decisions.
- Poor kickstand
- Memory card is behind the kickstand
- Charging port on the bottom. Can't use the kickstand and charge at the same time. Who the hell thought this was a good idea?
- Joy cons clearly not tested properly because almost all the reviews mention connectivity issues.
I'm going to feel annoyed when they fix all these problems with the next hardware revision.
It's best to wait if you're not dying to have it at launch.
Not sure why they made such ridiculous hardware decisions.
- Poor kickstand
- Memory card is behind the kickstand
- Charging port on the bottom. Can't use the kickstand and charge at the same time. Who the hell thought this was a good idea?
- Joy cons clearly not tested properly because almost all the reviews mention connectivity issues.
I'm going to feel annoyed when they fix all these problems with the next hardware revision.
That's not what I meant at all.
They should have prepared better and release the day 1/online patch BEFORE launch so that reviewers could do their reviews properly, not delay the embargo post-launch, that would be shady AF.
And WTF...the OS is 720p even when docked? lol
This is where I'm at. I want it to be a success - but reviews like the Wired make me glad I'm not day 1.
jobrro
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Yeah. Concerns about possibly scratching the screen with the docking mechanism, heatmaps in the varying modes, comprehensive tests of the Joycon desync issue to accompany their prior article and generally just a thorough review all round.
It's a joycon issue period (not specifically left or right). It deals with the Bluetooth frequency being too low, so signal gets obstructed when objects containing water (like hands or body) are in front of it. For Nintendo's sake, it should hopefully be fixed via firmware.
I have reviews for Shovel Knight, Zelda, and Bomberman going up before launch on their embargoes at Destructoid.
A lot of outlets didn't get 1-2 Switch. Snipperclips will be sent out when the eShop goes live (roughly Thursday evening).
Tal Shiar Agent
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The way people talking about this as a "portable with a TV out" I wonder, or hope, we get a revision that's portable only. Non-detachable joycons and no bundled dock, maybe a bit smaller.
LordRaptor
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Pretty much what people were saying when it was revealed then. Expensive and not enough games on launch, wait til end of year. That's fair, for someone who wants the new Zelda (like me) I think buying it now makes sense, the price won't drop, so you might as well get it early...
Yep Digital's is very good.
Interfectum
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Just more proof the OS is barely ready for launch.
Visualante2
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Keen to see what the day one patch offers. But they're going to have to offer a pro controller bundle eventually with the complaints about the joy con grip.
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Seems about what I expected. Amazing handheld for the portable fans, but probably a wait and see how it pans out for a long while for the console only folk like me.
It will need a bunch of exclusives I want along with a price drop/sale and bundle to get me in board, if it ever does. $370 for console and pro controller is just too much for its power level as a console for me, a long Wii my diminished interest in Nintendo outside of Zelda and Metroid (If they ever put it another worthy entry).
No wireless headphone solution currently is a bummer as well as I play while my fiancé is working or sleeping a lot.
It will need a bunch of exclusives I want along with a price drop/sale and bundle to get me in board, if it ever does. $370 for console and pro controller is just too much for its power level as a console for me, a long Wii my diminished interest in Nintendo outside of Zelda and Metroid (If they ever put it another worthy entry).
No wireless headphone solution currently is a bummer as well as I play while my fiancé is working or sleeping a lot.
Not "in general". There's a lot of negativity about...
- The battery life.
- The charging situation for the controllers.
- The charging situation for the system.
- The lack of headphone jack on the controllers.
- The lack of any bluetooth headphone capabilities.
- Substantial desync with the controller that may require some people to spend another $70 to get a controller that is more consistent.
- Lack of D-Pad on the default controller.
The Desync is going to be a dealbreaker for a lot of people. The lack of comment from Nintendo is worrying. Can it even be fixed with firmware? I hope they were just being shady and pulling a Volvo, using a battery-efficient mode during the review period then fixing it in a patch.
In general, reading several reviews / some final comments, it seems the feeling is that it's a good, if not great base, but of course Nintendo needs to prove it's worthy in the long run. Sounds positive overall, given these are in progress. Also, yes, the DF article is a must-read.
TheMagician
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https://twitter.com/tomorrowcorp/status/831574577037709312
"There's a Wii-style pointer control when docked. N managed to cram those Joy-cons with a surprising amount of super stars."
"There's a Wii-style pointer control when docked. N managed to cram those Joy-cons with a surprising amount of super stars."
Garrett Hawke
Member
yeah, the heat thing especially was good.
it seems like it'll get a little hot but to be fair my vita used to get quite hot. will wait and see how it feels
Stephen Totilo posted his view as a comment in the Kotaku review.
http://kotaku.com/my-experience-with-the-switch-is-a-little-different-tha-1792850780
http://kotaku.com/my-experience-with-the-switch-is-a-little-different-tha-1792850780
WordsintheWater
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That Wired review was pretty brutal as well, and honestly all the criticisms are warranted at this point, the update will change that, but for what they have dealt with it's pretty understandable. Will watch the Digital Foundry one when I get home.
Schnozberry
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It's called confirmation bias. People latch on to opinions that confirm their pre-existing beliefs.
To me it seems people are generally positive about the hardware, but are critical of the process of reviewing the device without final software or full capabilities. Those are completely fair criticisms as far as I'm concerned. But there's a lot to like about the Switch too, so it's really going to depend on how you feel about the games lineup day one. Personally, I think Zelda, 1-2 Switch, and a smattering of eShop games are worth buying. If you disagree, you might want to sit out for a while.
Let me tell you about a thing called "personal agenda"
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But I don't want the waggle. :/ Actually, I would be really curious if the Joy-Cons could pull off what the Wiimotes did.
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