Nintendo's Switch 2 Treehouse Livestream Is Just a Flood of Angry Comments Shouting "DROP the PRICE"

It will?

  • It will be the same

    Votes: 220 85.3%

  • It will drop the price of the games to the new standard: US$70

    Votes: 28 10.9%

  • It will drop the price of the games and the console

    Votes: 9 3.5%

  • It will drop the price of the console

    Votes: 1 0.4%
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Sebastian1295 said:
Nintendo games have little to no voice acting, barebones animations, mediocre graphics, little to no story/writing for most of them and yet they want 70 to 90 dollars lol. We all saw the new Mario kart and did that look like an 80 to 90 dollar game with a top tier budget?? No way.
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man literally all your comments are the same. We got it, yes people are stupid and 150m console were sold to poor souls who don't understand value.

Back in topic: to be honest this is good. This is how you pressure companies to make changes. Negative press works, but people really need to keep the pressure on their social media and so on too. It's probably too late for Mario Kart and DK, but fingers crossed they get it.
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
Nothing but broke kids and jobless adults thinking they're entitled to an entertainment device in a hobby that's always been a luxury.

And trolls. Always some trolls involved.
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I feel like I'm being gaslighted since yesterday with arguments about how gaming was always a luxury hobby or how we should consider inflation for billionarie companies with historically high records of profits.
 
F31 Leopard said:
I had the same sentiment towards original Switch games not completely on cart that's why I passed on a lot of titles or I imported Asian/JP/UAE versions because they were complete on cart. Doesn't make sense to release a "physical" version if you have to download the rest. With Switch 2 it's the same thing but a key now. Why even bother with a physical release. Just a waste of materials.
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well at least now there's a cart for many who probably expect a cart when they buy a boxed game. And maybe you can share it like any other cart ...albeit you can't play until you download.

Anyway it's interesting they will have those fake carts instead of, i presume, codes.
 
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Nintendo has even come under fire for charging for the Switch 2 tutorial video game experience, Welcome Tour, which fans have said should be a free pack-in. Astro's Playroom, for example, comes pre-installed on every PlayStation 5 console, serving additionally as a free tech demo for the DualSense controller.
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The way this is worded is like it's a surprise that people would be angry about this. I figure this is an obvious result of charging for a tutorial and whoever thought it up and green lit it is absolutely clueless. People don't like to be charged for a basic feature right after they've paid an exorbitant price for a console.

I just hope shit like this doesn't set a precedent. I'm sure many other game companies are eyeing this and the jacked up game prices and wondering if they can do it too.
 
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People haven't complained about ipads, I can't show empathy to people with double standards towards Apple, there's hypocrisy and I can't show empathy unless these people stops being hypocritical.
 
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XXL said:
As of right now Kirby is more expensive than GTA
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Dont Look At Me GIF


$100 GTA 6 but is coming
 
simpatico said:
Outrage over this stuff is wild to me. Do gamers largely not buy their own food? Even with the hikes, it's still a lower hike than any other segment of my monthly regular purchases. Good food has basically doubled. Cars are a solid 33%-50% more expensive. I can't think of anything else I purchase regularly that has gone up as little as gaming software.
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It's because the information is still very fresh and evokes, as we can see, intense emotions. People aren't lucid in the heat of the moment.

No one is happy about the price increase but Nintendo isn't better or worse than any other company trying to make money.
 
Portugeezer said:
Gaming is not a luxury hobby.
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4k gaming is a luxury hobby. AAA gaming on 'obsolete' consoles is for everyone.
For the price of one PS5/Switch game you could buy a used PS2 console with a handful of PS2/1 games or a GB/GBC/GBA with a handful of games.
We live in a weird time where a dirt poor kid could easily be playing *objectively better games on his dad's old PS2 than a rich kid with his dad's PS5.
*PS2/1 games on PS2 HW vs PS2/1 Classics on PS5 HW
 
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Good.

The console reveal was a real mixed bag. The GameChat + Wheel Chair game was Wii Music levels of bad. Just absolutely fucking terrible.

Donkey Kong and Metroid look amazing, but I think most people including myself expected a lot more. Mario Kart was a given, and it looks good. I'm not completely sold it's actually gonna be better than 8 Deluxe. We will see.

The 3rd party support is decent, Street Fighter 6 and Cyberpunk is a good start. Finally some Madden.

The Switch 2 Edition games… what can I say. I am damn happy they are upgrading past Switch games, damn happy Prime 4 is getting this treatment. $80 for Mario Party though? What the fuck? $80 for fucking Kirby?

Nuts. Yes games were relatively more expensive back in the day. That doesn't change the fact Nintendo explicitly stated they were going to be sensitive regarding prices for consumers and then decided to nut kick and vagina punch them on reveal day.

$90 for new joycons? I would say fuck off… but then apparently our Switch 1 controllers will still work with most Switch 2 games. So I can understand them trying to make a buck there when accessory purchases will most certainly drop.

The GameCube additions… why? Why now? Where the fuck is my F-Zero GX remake/remaster. You give me this instead? Fuck you dude. Fine I'll take it. See… that's what I mean.

That really is the feels of this reveal of the Switch 2. It could have been great, but they are either holding their cards close to see how people react to their pricing, or they just fucking blundered again.

If it wasn't for Prime 4 and Donkey Kong I could very easily wait a few years before buying a Switch 2. It's hard to tell how this is gonna go, do they have more games? Cuz so far they really didn't show much.

No one gives a damn about Drag X or the paid pack in game. DK, Mario Kart, and Prime 4 is all they showed. Oh yeah, Kirby Riders I guess… + Patches for old Switch games.

Switch 1 reveal was way better, console was way more affordable, I think Nintendo will have to budge on something if they want success. Otherwise… it won't be a Wii U level bomb but it does have that air of stupidity around it.
 
I think it's quite good that we're having a conversation (again, to be fair) about Nintendo's pricing.

You get the feeling that both Sony and Microsoft have spent generations trying to hit a price that is as low as possible but is enough to deliver real improvements in hardware, while since the Wii Nintendo have tried to keep the cost of hardware as low as possible and sell as high as they can get away with.

I wonder how close Nintendo are this time to pricing that would be considered too much for a significant part of the market to bear.

Of course, gamers complain about everything, but I wonder if this much pushback from their core audience is enough to indicate that the mainstream might not accept the price rise.

Personally I think I'm sitting this one out. Maybe I'll be drawn back in once the price cut/ambassadors programme is announced. 😂
 
Asking Mums and Dads to spend AUD$110.00 on Mario Kart for little Timmy is going to be a non-starter for many, I imagine. You can't make games specifically targeted at kids, and then price them those same games as if they were targeted at 40+ vidya no-lifers like me. I expect Nintendo will take this to market, and then watch as they fail to sustain post-launch momentum.
 
ZehDon said:
Asking Mums and Dads to spend AUD$110.00 on Mario Kart for little Timmy is going to be a non-starter for many, I imagine. You can't make games specifically targeted at kids, and then price them those same games as if they were targeted at 40+ vidya no-lifers like me. I expect Nintendo will take this to market, and then watch as they fail to sustain post-launch momentum.
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Agreed. I can definitely see those game prices causing parents to decide their kids can just stick with the Switch they already have. The Switch 2 console is already pushing it, but the game prices will be a real sticking point for price conscious parents and other people too.
 
Not sure about other countries but I saw that in France, retailers are selling it for less than Nintendo's MSRP. 439€ instead of 469€. Is that Nintendo lowering the MSRP or retailers willing to take in reduced profits? Not sure, but Mario Kart World is also available for 69€ instead of 89€.

I wouldn't be surprised if 439€ and 69€ were the prices Nintendo had in mind from the start but they announced higher ones so they can walk them back later and make it seem like the public got a win despite prices still increasing significantly over last gen.
 
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ZehDon said:
Asking Mums and Dads to spend AUD$110.00 on Mario Kart for little Timmy is going to be a non-starter for many, I imagine. You can't make games specifically targeted at kids, and then price them those same games as if they were targeted at 40+ vidya no-lifers like me. I expect Nintendo will take this to market, and then watch as they fail to sustain post-launch momentum.
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Is it really? I don't think so. Parents will spend money to keep their kids quiet and occupied and the reality is Mario Kart will do that for literally hundreds of hours. it offers exceptional value if you consider price to time.
Also Mario 64, Pilotwings and Wave Race were all $100AUD here in Australia 25 years ago at release!
If you account for inflation N64 games were $200AUD in today's money.
Even ps5 games are charging $120+ on the digital store at release. This is already the new norm.
 
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It's Nintendo....
Overpriced hardware, at least, 1 gen behind and the same 30 year old games recycled for the 12th time for 80$ , something Nintendo fans should be more than used to.

Those complaining aren't true Nintendo lovers, they just want to make noise.
 
Skifi28 said:
The price of the console is fine, but I can't stand behind 90 euro games. Terrible precedent to set.
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The accessories are also quite expensive as well. The pro controller is like 90 Euro or £75/$80. Not to mention proprietary memory cards (ik).

Nintendo are definitely milking this upcoming generation.
 
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zombrex said:
Is it really? I don't think so. Parents will spend money to keep their kids quiet and occupied and the reality is Mario Kart will do that for literally hundreds of hours. it offers exceptional value if you consider price to time.
Also Mario 64, Pilotwings and Wave Race were all $100AUD here in Australia 25 years ago at release!
If you account for inflation N64 games were $200AUD in today's money.
Even ps5 games are charging $120+ on the digital store at release. This is already the new norm.
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Most PS5 games aren't targeting children, and virtually none of the ones that are are costing close to AUD$120.00. And games back then had irregular pricing; some games were a whole heck of a lot less than that. Spending big for Mario is easier to justify when a lot of other games cost less. Now, there's standard pricing - spending big for, well, everything is enough for Parents to tell their kids "pick one, you don't get both". This is Sony's model: charge more for less. Sure, you sell less copies, but you make more money. That model starts to breakdown when you're talking about stuff made for kids.
 
blacktout said:
$60 - WarioWare, Switch Sports, and any other "budget" titles and casual games that would have been $50 on the Switch and $40 in the pre-HD era

$70 - the vast majority of Switch 2 titles, including most major releases

$80 - a special tier reserved for premium releases like 3D Zelda, 3D Mario, and potentially also Smash
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Nintendo is selling a kirby game for $80
 
It's no use if they're going to buy it on the first day. The only thing companies understand is money. If reserves were low, they'd back down, but that won't happen. €90 in Europe is a rip-off.
 
Generic said:
I feel like I'm being gaslighted since yesterday with arguments about how gaming was always a luxury hobby or how we should consider inflation for billionarie companies with historically high records of profits.
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I was able to buy consoles with my own money as a high school student. People who are saying gaming is a luxury item are wrong.
 
This isn't even taking into account other territories. The Switch 2 is going to be a $700+ console in countries like Canada, and $100 for the games themselves. That's not something to be defending nor excusing.
 
RetroGamingUK said:
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Pointing this out doesn't mean shit. These prices were why we never bought games when I was a kid, and we had to rely on Blockbuster, and other local rental places. Then if we ever did buy a game, it was a used rental copy of a game.

I still remember buying what we thought was a copy of Dr Mario, and someone must have swapped the label, because it was actually Capcom's top down shooter 1943.
 
Power Pro said:
Pointing this out doesn't mean shit. These prices were why we never bought games when I was a kid, and we had to rely on Blockbuster, and other local rental places. Then if we ever did buy a game, it was a used rental copy of a game.

I still remember buying what we thought was a copy of Dr Mario, and someone must have swapped the label, because it was actually Capcom's top down shooter 1943.
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Now factor in inflation (and don't make out wages haven't gone up since the mid 90s)
 
RetroGamingUK said:
Now factor in inflation (and don't make out wages haven't gone up since the mid 90s)
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now factor this

SNES Worldwide Sales ( through the years ): 49.10 million

Switch Worldwide Sales ( 8 yo console ): 150 million

Nintendo isnt doing this cause inflation, they are doing out of greed, the amount of games they sell today compared to the 90" ll outweigh the inflation by a huge margin.
 
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Lokaum D+ said:
now factor this

SNES Worldwide Sales ( through the years ): 49.10 million

Switch Worldwide Sales ( 8 yo console ): 150 million

Nintendo isnt doing this cause inflation, they are doing out of greed, the amount of games they sell today compared to the 90" ll outweigh the inflation by a huge margin.
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For comparing prices back then doesn't make sense. Back then, console sales were dominated by Nintendo with practically no competition, so they could dictate prices to as high as they want. There was SEGA with MegaDrive/Genesis but they were nowhere close to Nintendo's popularity.

Gaming was more of a niche hobby back then for the younger generation. Now gaming is practically everywhere on any device, for any age.
 
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hinch7 said:
For comparing prices back then doesn't make sense. Back then, console sales were dominated by Nintendo with practically no competition, so they could dictate prices to as high as they want. There was SEGA with MegaDrive/Genesis but they were nowhere close to Nintendo's popularity.

Gaming was more of a niche hobby back then for the younger generation. Now gaming is practically everywhere on any device, for any age.
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Also this "inflation" excuse has to factor that for years Nintendo games cost a fraction of what current gen games cost to make and they aways have charged full price.

For example: RDR2 costed R* U$ 350+mi to be made and was sold for U$ 60 and at the same time BoTW costed Nintendo way WAY WAYYYY less than U$350+mi and was also sold for U$60.

You see, Nintendo has been "recouping" their "inflation" loss through the years, they didn't need to raise prices, they did out of greed and that's it, most Devs out there has more or equal development cost in their products and they are fine with U$ 70 , but not Nintendo, poor Nintendo, investing way way less than everyone else to develop a game and charging way more, i wish i knew how to speak english as a native in order to express my full toughs, but this ll have to do.
 
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Holy lord…the Treehouse people are still going! WTF…get them off the YouTube. Look at the guys eyes…

oh no what GIF by Dr. Donna Thomas Rodgers



I feel really bad for them. Have some mercy Nintendo. Good Lord.
 
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lestar said:
Nintendo is selling a kirby game for $80
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It's effectively a $60 game + a $20 DLC pack. I didn't mention Switch 2 Edition games in my post, because it seems like Nintendo's strategy there is going to be to take the base game's price (pretty much always $60) and then add $10 if it has mostly just received graphical enhancements and $20 if there's a meaningful amount of new content. Super Mario Party Jamboree is $80 too, I believe, for the same reason.

That said, Nintendo has done a terrible job of communicating their pricing strategy, so I don't blame anyone for finding it fucking bewildering.
 
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Efren is G.O.A.T. said:
They are just doing their job of presenting the games.
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I know, but look at their faces. They must have been made aware of something. It ain't right, man.

There is way to act professional. As a person in management, there is a job to do. but it is a delicate act to protect your employees while also shielding them from "unnatural" situations. I believe this would qualify.

They could record the rest of the TreeHouse and put it up later. It makes no difference now, it is not releasing in June. And if you believe it is, that is fine. You can not preorder next week.
 
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