Wastelander92
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I'm guessing most of the people watching a stream in the middle of the day are jobless.
Nintendo's Switch 2 Treehouse Livestream Is Just a Flood of Angry Comments Shouting "DROP the PRICE"
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Kagoshima_Luke
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The only thing that matters to Nintendo is whether it will sell out at that price and it will. Maybe in a year they'll revisit the price based on ongoing sell through numbers, but it's unlikely.
F31 Leopard
Member
I'm more bothered by the key cards than prices. Cyberpunk 2077 is completely on cart while Bravely Default and SF6 isn't? I get the cartridges are not cheap but I would be fine for paying a "physical tax" for covering cost of cartridge.
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MiguelItUp
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Mmm hmm. I guess they're just doing it and trying to pull, "Well that's the price of new games now" thing.
The Shepard
Member
If you had a switch in the UK you could always get your new physical games for £40, it's why I have a large collection of physical switch games. Switch 2 almost doubles the price to £75, it's crazy and I'm definitely going to sit this one out.
The only game I paid more for was TOTK and that was £45 at launch.
The only game I paid more for was TOTK and that was £45 at launch.
March Climber
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Yep, along with podcast listeners, sports watchers, twitch viewers, Europeans, and even people who post on GAF.
Gamerfan81
Member
Poor people are always angry about everything.
Hey but they can play gamepassthere a hundred of games there.
They were angry about the RTX cards, angry about the PS5 Pro, and now angry at Nintendo.
This hobby can be very expensive at times. The 80s and 90s were absolutely brutal for gamers in terms of prices.
Anyways, more than likely someone will come up with an emulator, and they can sail the high seas.
gaheris
Member
That might be good for single-player games but probably not viable for something like Mario Kart World since it's a multiplayer game, which is probably why they did it there. If it is gonna keep on selling even if not as much as Mario Kart 8, Deluxe, this price will let them see if it's viable at that price. Nintendo is using Mario Kart World as a test and if it doesn't work they will drop the price.
Zathalus
Member
What's the battery life on the PS4 and PS5?
This happened last gen. It's a publisher choice. Another move 3rd party publishers did last gen was put part of the game on the cheaper smaller cartridge (because it was initially a big step up in cost to the bigger cartridge) and then make the other part of the game a download.
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Fabieter
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No its more of lets see if we get away with it.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Given Nintendo's dominant market position in addition to the tariffs, significant price drops seem unlikely.
kiphalfton
Member
The sad reality is the income these hoes rake in, will likely make prices hikes associated with tariffs a non-issue for them.
Sad sad reality, let's be real they're not paying for shit.
kiphalfton
Member
Just because I make a fair wage, doesn't mean I want to pay that much more for shit. At that point you're just spinning your wheels, and promotions/hustling/advancing your skills are all pointless if you're barely keeping up with price hikes.
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kiphalfton
Member
You do realize that will affect you eventually? Right?
Even if it doesn't, because you think price increases aren't an issue for YOU, doesn't mean everybody wants to shoulder an additional financial burden because of your short sightedness.
This reminds me of something else, the whole "raising prices out of spite".
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nikos
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Obviously I wasn't serious about them raising the price out of spite. Spamming nonsense in chat, review bombing and generally crying over stuff is such childish behavior and it only really happens with gaming.
Prices are an issue for me but I'm not going to spam and cry about it on a stream. I just don't do or buy a lot of things I used to because of increased costs. That includes many types of grocery items, which is way more important than gaming. I think that's the case for a lot of people right now.
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F31 Leopard
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I had the same sentiment towards original Switch games not completely on cart that's why I passed on a lot of titles or I imported Asian/JP/UAE versions because they were complete on cart. Doesn't make sense to release a "physical" version if you have to download the rest. With Switch 2 it's the same thing but a key now. Why even bother with a physical release. Just a waste of materials.
blacktout
Member
Yeah, there's zero excuse for Bravely Default in particular to be on a key card. This is a game with a small file size that would have been sold on a cart if it were on the Switch 1. Square is just trying to set the precedent that all of their games will be on the much cheaper key cards moving forward, and you can bet they're not passing those savings along to the consumer.
As far as the actual topic is concerned, I think there's a zero percent chance that Nintendo drops the price of the hardware anytime soon. Now that we know more about the device, I think Nintendo's margins on it are fairly thin, even at $450, and especially after you factor in potential tariffs and other sources of economic insecurity. I think this is why that $500 Mario Kart bundle exists. It seems like they're giving you a deal on the game, but actually they're increasing the margins on the device itself since the per unit cost of a digital download code is a fraction of a cent.
Maybe backlash can get them to drop MKW to $70, but I doubt it since the high price pushes consumers towards the bundle. Best case scenario is MKW gets a $10 price cut in a year or so and Nintendo doesn't attempt the $80 price point in the future, but I think even that is unlikely.
My guess is we see three price points from Nintendo moving forward:
$60 - WarioWare, Switch Sports, and any other "budget" titles and casual games that would have been $50 on the Switch and $40 in the pre-HD era
$70 - the vast majority of Switch 2 titles, including most major releases
$80 - a special tier reserved for premium releases like 3D Zelda, 3D Mario, and potentially also Smash
Basically, when Nintendo sold TotK for $70, they weren't trying to communicate that it was a next gen game, but rather that they were creating a new pricing category.
MMaRsu
Gold Member
Both are fine, any avenue to make them known we dont want this shit
Darkness_Arises
Member
Didn't know that MH Rise + Sunbreak (12 Pounds), MH World + Iceborne (12 Pounds), DMC5+ Virgil bought today for 5 pounds are Steam shovelware slop. Capcom spent far more on producing each one of those titles than shitass Nintendo shovelware like Mario Party, Mario Tennis, Kirby, 2D Marios, etc. I would argue that MH Wilds would have cost easily 4-5x the production cost of MK World and it will not sell as many copies as MK World. It was still released for just 70$. Nintendo is greediest company in gaming. Most Nintendo fans are the perfect example of Stockholm syndrome.
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Wolfhearth
Neo Member
They have earned it.
kiphalfton
Member
Very valid point.
When real issues come up, if choosing to die on every hill, it's hard to take whatever is said seriously.
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alphachino
Member
time zones, they are a thing y'know
Blitzkrieg!
Banned
If you're going to @ me, at least have the courtesy to give prices in real money (USD) rather than Monopoly money nonsense.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
I've criticized Nintendo plenty of times, even with the Switch 2 reveal. The digital game prices are sus, the prices for those DRM code carts will probably be stupid compared to actual carts, the small embeds of game streams for Game Chat multiplayer looks bad, etc.
But people thinking this is the worst reveal in history, or Nintendo waging war against customers with somewhat higher prices for some entertainment, well they're just being ridiculous IMO. If it's too much at launch, save up or wait 'till prices are lower. Quality costs money.
I don't want $100 games, but if it happens, it happens. And I know sometimes price increases are due to factors outside of their control.
But if prices go outside of my comfort range I'm not gonna go around laying blame. It may not be for me, but I know others can still afford it. So I'll just either wait for a sale or buy something else.
Ha, nope! Go back to 4th gen and look at prices for SNES and even some Genesis games. Look at costs of systems like PS1 and Saturn adjusted for inflation.
You could make gaming affordable by renting stuff, 2nd-hand purchases and so on, or just borrowing from friends.
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phant0m
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We're well and truly cooked as a society
simpatico
Member
Mom buys the tendies and soda pops but gives a strict dollar budget on gaming. Only scenario I can think of how someone could think these prices are out of line with the economy at large. If anything they're still low.
ReyBrujo
Member
Interesting how games used to be for children and at 60 bucks were fine, but now that they target adults they want the children pricetag.
I guess most were Microsoft and Sony fans fearing Nintendo is paving the way for a global price increase. It's usually up to the leader of the generation to decide where to go from there, and they know Sony and Microsoft will gladly tread that path.
I guess most were Microsoft and Sony fans fearing Nintendo is paving the way for a global price increase. It's usually up to the leader of the generation to decide where to go from there, and they know Sony and Microsoft will gladly tread that path.
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Pasta la Vista
Member
Love to see it. This has all been a disaster so far, Nintendo gonna feel the pressure.
reinking
Gold Member
https://www.statista.com/forecasts/499713/share-consumers-ever-play-video-games-by-income-usa
I do not know how they define video gamer users but it looks pretty evenly split by player percentage in the US as far as the market is concerned. I believe the average household income in the US is less than 90K. It makes sense that higher income households would have more disposable income and carry the weight but if they start pricing out the lower and middle income US video game players, I still do not see it as good news. Yes, I am aware there is a world outside of the US but I honestly do not have the time or desire to dig much deeper.
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Iced Arcade
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1st party games will sell no matter what the tag says BUT it could potentially hurt 3rd party (if that is the price standard)
why pay that ticket price when you can buy a better version of the game on a PS5/XB for a lower price
why pay that ticket price when you can buy a better version of the game on a PS5/XB for a lower price
Sebastian1295
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What a ridiculous comment. Just because someone dosen't wanna pay 80 to 90 dollars for a nintendo game dosen't mean they're jobless or a loser. Defending a billion dollar corporation and kneeling down before them for screwing people over is loser crap.
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Embearded
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No they don't.
Unless someone shows the receipts, i do not believe development of any Nintendo "AAA" 1st party game costs as much as the average AAA game from Sony, MS, Ubisoft, CDPR etc.
I am not saying selling at cost, not at all. But i do not believe they are increasing prices because they of inflation. They could take the "hit" at this point and just have lower profits, but they decided to sell at even higher prices than their competitors do with even higher budget games.
It's corporate greed.
Arsic
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I think a $10 reduction both in physical and digital would be a good show to their consumer base, but ultimately Nintendo he did the market research before they came out with these numbers.
They could always drop it in the future if it really is not moving like they had hoped.
They could always drop it in the future if it really is not moving like they had hoped.
Saber
Newd Member
Only an idiot would say that, have more self respect. And this is from someone whos actually positive about Switch 2. In some countries like mine, the price is up to a whooping 2x times at worst. Nobody likes to pay high prices for something that is definitivelly not a luxury.
Radical_3d
Member
The pricing will continue until moral improves.
Sebastian1295
Member
Nintendo games have little to no voice acting, barebones animations, mediocre graphics, little to no story/writing for most of them and yet they want 70 to 90 dollars lol. We all saw the new Mario kart and did that look like an 80 to 90 dollar game with a top tier budget?? No way.
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sure, cause that happened with the N64, GameCube and WiiU.
March Climber
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LectureMaster
I secretly hope you're making a bingo card meme image of the many defenses we've been seeing.Here are some I've seen the most:
- "Yea, but what about the 80s and 90s though? *posts old article image* "
- "Adjusted for inflation, this makes perfect sense"
- "People are going to pay for it anyway because it's Nintendo"
- "It's only 10 more in price"
- "I'm glad that Nintendo are no longer catering to the poor and broke"
- "It's worth it alone for (insert game title)"
alphachino
Member
Nintendo apologists are insufferable. I'm a huge ninty fan myself, have had every one of their consoles since the SNES, and the vast majority of those were on day 1. I did even get the NES years later, just not when it was still in stores.
Here are some I've seen the most:
- "Yea, but what about the 80s and 90s though? *posts old article image* "
- "Adjusted for inflation, this makes perfect sense"
- "People are going to pay for it anyway because it's Nintendo"
- "It's only 10 more in price"
- "I'm glad that Nintendo are no longer catering to the poor and broke"
- "It's worth it alone for (insert game title)"
I'm really not happy about the Switch 2. It's not even just the price, even though the game prices are outrageous imo. It's just that Nintendo seem to have lost all of their innovation, spark, joyfulness and fun. They've become just another lifeless, soulless corporate monster bereft of any new ideas. The gaming community and society in general is definitely worse-off as a result.