Alligatorjandro
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To be honest the only DC character I like is Batman.
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No New DC Comics Movies For At Least 3 Years Besides Batman and Superman Films
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I was trying to pick solo characters who have held their own titles for a lengthy amount of time. DC doesn't have much of a B-list which is my point.
I forget where I read/heard this, but someone once made an interesting point about Marvel and DC's Universes.
For the most part, Marvel's characters were made for a shared universe. They were mostly created by one or two people, they started meeting up really quickly, etc.
DC on the other hand, was an amalgamation of various other comic publishers. Many of these characters didn't even come from the same company originally, much less from the same creators. They were never intended to share a universe, it's just something that kinda came about over time as various companies merged with DC.
For the most part, Marvel's characters were made for a shared universe. They were mostly created by one or two people, they started meeting up really quickly, etc.
DC on the other hand, was an amalgamation of various other comic publishers. Many of these characters didn't even come from the same company originally, much less from the same creators. They were never intended to share a universe, it's just something that kinda came about over time as various companies merged with DC.
GuitarAtomik
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I feel like Marvel is at least setting up their universe to be able to go the james bonds route and let them switch out actors as necessary. I think the only thing people will get tired of is retreads of old stories and keeping that to a minimum is within their interest.
pants
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To be fair, if I talked more on the subject of comics in general I'm sure you guys will point out I have a pronounced douche-bag affiliation, so no stones being thrown here!
ThatCrazyGuy
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I hope the Batman reboot is taken to the future. Or Batman Beyond straight up.
pants
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This is a real problem with DC, they do lack depth past the Top Tier Justice League staple. Something they do need to work on is giving some of the lesser heroes some attention. Something I feel Marvel does way, way better.
Speedymanic
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TFA Cap Am suit looked appealing and good. TA Cap Am suit was an abomination and one that I hope and pray doesn't return in Winter Soldier.
Sapphire Dreams
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I still cannot believe they fucked up Green Lantern, it had so much potential and they blew it up ! *sniffs*
I really hope they would pull it together and make other Superhero movies, they can't do Superman and Batman forever (pun not intended).
I really hope they would pull it together and make other Superhero movies, they can't do Superman and Batman forever (pun not intended).
naw its cool. its how comic gaf rolls.
Ninja Scooter
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I think DC's biggest problem is that while their characters are iconic and recognizable, outside of Batman I'm not so sure how much draw they have. I mean, yeah Superman is the Mickey Mouse of comics, but if Disney released a Mickey Mouse movie to theaters next year it probably wouldn't light the world on fire. People know of Superman more than they are interested in him. It's different than, say, the XMen or Spiderman. It's on DC to find a way to make characters like Superman and Wonder Woman resonate, and it's going to take more than just making cliched, paint by numbers movies featuring them. Marvel did it in large part by going with RJD in Iron Man. That was a huge move for them. If they cast almost anyone else in that role, the movie doesn't do nearly as well and who knows where the Marvel universe is in Hollywood right now.
It'll probably be another Batman Begins origin story. It would make it easier to tie in with a Justice League movie.
The Flash and Wonder Woman are easily DC's best bets for a film franchise outside of Batman and Superman. They messed up Green Lantern unfortunately. The Flash is probably an even better bet than Wonder Woman. They could do some really cool special effects stuff with the Flash if they were creative. Also, all of the flashes are easier to relate to on a human level than Wonder Woman who is basically a demi goddess. I would prefer a movie based on Wally, but that will never happen.
ThatCrazyGuy
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They are going have change the tone up a lot I guess. I don't see how it is currently is going to transition straight into JL type stuff.
Unless JL is gpnna be all dark and brooding.
Escape Goat
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I get the feeling the next Batman trilogy will be lighter and dramatic change from Nolan's dark and gritty universe. We'll probably have Robin and more comic book tone like Marvel has done with its properties.
TheAtomicPile
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It's sad that people (including WB executives apparently) are acting like Marvel has captured lightning in a bottle, and that this kind of success could never be recreated.
They've made two good movies, a few decent movies, and some shitty ones. Hardly an impossibly high standard.
They've made two good movies, a few decent movies, and some shitty ones. Hardly an impossibly high standard.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Would be dumb to do so. Sure copy Batman Begins, but make it so that Robin is the one in training, make it deeply personal and charismatic, can reflect on new Bruce rather than having to tell his tale again, and also if they finally do a good Robin, can spring off the whole damn Bat family into a DC Universe with things like Teen Titans as potential outlets.
Movies from all manner of main characters sharing the same continuity is kinda a really big deal and new thing. It tooks some genuinely clever orchestration to get right, and timed perfectly. DC can enjoy success with TDKR and Man of Steel, but neither one has a hook for anything beyond their own universes. You gotta commit to this shit like a decade beforehand, and commit HARD.
i kinda want the next batman series to not start with a retelling of the story. kinda go into after bruce has been doing his thing for a while, and has had the other robins fill their roles out and have them focus on bruce and damien.
Same here. DC characters just don't interest me since a lot of them are 'perfect' unlike guys like Iron Man who battle alcoholism. I also dislike concepts like the Speed Force or how there are so many different versions of characters like Flash or Green Lantern. It's confusing.
The other problem is that unlike Marvel movies, DC movies are all handled by WB.
Escape Goat
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Whether they are "good" movies doesn't matter. If they make money then thats the type of movie that will get made.
ThatCrazyGuy
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I hope they take another crack at green lantern. I feel there is so much potential there.
Sapphire Dreams
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THIS ! CG was created for this guy !
Escape Goat
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I had to go look at Green Lantern's Box Office totals for a laugh.
Budget - 200 million
Worldwide Gross - 219million
I had real high hopes for that movie since Geoff Johns had risen to have some input in the DC films. Sadly, Johns magic doesn't work off the pages of a comicbook. Maybe they could pay Kevin Feige a trillion bucks to manage their universe.
SpiderJerusalem
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well that sucks, also people at work that say Batman is the only good Dc character can go fuck themselves with thier Nolanwank
Boombloxer
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Yea, no, Spider-man, Wolverine and Iron Man are at that level, simply because all of those films, are really popular, regardless of how one might feel about quality.
I never thought I'd play a Wolverine game that'd be better than Superman.
Anticitizen One
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meanwhile over at Marvel....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xChGwFrDxE8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xChGwFrDxE8
Spider man has been an internationally popular character long before his movies came out. Hell, he had a show in japan in the 70s.
Green Lantern could have easily opened up the cinematic DC universe...
I find it really reaching that an army of Lanterns are the only hope for the universe. More importantly... Where was Superman during that entire movie? lol
Or crazy how everyone just accepted Green Lantern and shrugged it off.
Brian Fellows
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Batman is really the only character in the DC universe worth making a movie about anyway.
Except...not.
Boombloxer
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That would be a bad idea because Nolan's universe is extremely limiting compared to the source material. He's pretty much used up every realistic character in Batman, and the rest would have to be almost completely changed in order to fit into that universe. It would be a waste.
Anticitizen One
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Pretty much this. WB/DC has been fucking around with their film properties since I was a little kid in the late 80s/early 90s. It's literally a miracle that Bruce Timm's DC animation and Chris Nolan's Batman movies turned out so well because everything else has been complete shit. I can kind of forgive them for making all the christopher reeve superman movies shit because it was a brand new ballgame back then but I can't forgive them for batman forever and all the other garbage they have subjected fans too over the years. Here is Kevin Smith's account of what he had to deal with when writing a script for a Superman reboot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUwkqeI7XWk
fucking embarassing DC deserves to fail.
fallengorn
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They just have to go and face it head on, with a different tone and feel. No way around it.
Acrylic7
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are they seriously going to make a Justice league movie without introducing The Team?
Before the JL movie you at least need a Flash, WonderWomen, Superman, Batman movie; and each of those movies could also introduce the other lesser known JL members like Martian Man-Hunter and Hawkgirl.
Would like to see these movies made before Justice League.
SuperMan + introducing Martian Man Hunter
Flash + Green Lantern Hal
Wonder Women + introducing Hawk Girl (my fav).
Batman needs his own movie. He's to important
I kinda feel that Green Lantern needs its own movie as well. Nothing special about Hal but the Green Lanterns as a whole could form into something interesting for JL if done right. I also want to see Guy and John on screen.
Also, what about Cyborg and Aqua Man? They are in the new 52. Are they going that route or what?
Before the JL movie you at least need a Flash, WonderWomen, Superman, Batman movie; and each of those movies could also introduce the other lesser known JL members like Martian Man-Hunter and Hawkgirl.
Would like to see these movies made before Justice League.
SuperMan + introducing Martian Man Hunter
Flash + Green Lantern Hal
Wonder Women + introducing Hawk Girl (my fav).
Batman needs his own movie. He's to important
I kinda feel that Green Lantern needs its own movie as well. Nothing special about Hal but the Green Lanterns as a whole could form into something interesting for JL if done right. I also want to see Guy and John on screen.
Also, what about Cyborg and Aqua Man? They are in the new 52. Are they going that route or what?
Anticitizen One
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There are two good ways to do a Justice League movie and they are not going to do it either way:
One is to do it Avengers style with very few iconic heroes (no superman or batman) and focus on building up the second string charecters and make them interesting:
or go crazy and make it more modern and iconic:
but of course they are going to go with something terrible like a schumacher movie or something.
One is to do it Avengers style with very few iconic heroes (no superman or batman) and focus on building up the second string charecters and make them interesting:
or go crazy and make it more modern and iconic:
but of course they are going to go with something terrible like a schumacher movie or something.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Batman Beyond is the movie WB should be focusing on.
TheKaeptain
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Superman is like the most popular character not named Spiderman or Batman.
It's kind of funny watching the 80s Marvel / DC thing play itself out again, this time in the box office.
On the one hand there's DC with its GrimDark McSerious stuff and on the other hand there's Marvel, just blowing shit up and having a good time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OHn77YNZI
On the one hand there's DC with its GrimDark McSerious stuff and on the other hand there's Marvel, just blowing shit up and having a good time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OHn77YNZI
Foreign Jackass
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I don't understand why anyone would be rooting for reboots.
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