Topher
mentioned, I did just include information that I found interesting.It does kinda depend on how much time I have when the results come out and is rather random. I have done at least 3 times.
NPD July 2022 - Total revenue down 9% YoY , down 10% YTD, PS5 #1 Rev, Switch #1 units and Xenoblade 3 enters at #4
Topher
mentioned, I did just include information that I found interesting.It does kinda depend on how much time I have when the results come out and is rather random. I have done at least 3 times.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I'm not because Reks has mentioned revenue in the title before.
Since I've seen him on the installbaseforum before, then it should come to no surprise that he would mention it here, too.
https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/forums/sales-and-news.6/?prefix_id=3
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Here's the truth about Switch:
It isn't even fully tracked, as it excludes Xbox and Switch digital. Might be 3rd YTD
The real shocker in the chart is how low COD Vanguard is
RoboFu
One of the green rats
It does kinda depend on how much time I have when the results come out and is rather random. I have done at least 3 times.
So 3 times including today. I wont say anymore. Just pointing out an obvious pattern that jumped out at me.
KingT731
Member
MLB has always done well in the states but it's nonexistent outside the US though really which is where that sales divide happens.
Bit of a weird pattern especially since the June results also had PS as the #1 revenue for the month but yeah, let's just leave it.
It was 3/6 (excluding one which is the NPD forecast and one was created before we got the full information).
Ehh, moving on now.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Some people will continue to want to push the narrative HFW is a failure, no matter what facts disprove the thought, because for them they need a big Sony game to fail. That's really all it's about for them.
Couldn't be me, for any game. I don't want a game to fail, but if a game is actually performing badly in some objectively measurable way, then that's worth talking about. Handily outselling a COD game for YTD is kind of the polar opposite of a "flop" even if a handful of other games have sold even more.
jm89
Member
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
NPD is listing revenue not sales units.
Nautilus
Banned
And?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I remember it would top out at 1 million, but I just googled and it seems that changed last year and it sold 2 million units worldwide. If we are to assume 99% of those sales came from the U.S, its safe to assume that this year the game sold around the same number of copies if not more considering it also launched on the switch. Which would mean HFW has sold over 2 million in NA alone. Which is actually pretty impressive.
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KingT731
Member
I think a lot of people took Sony not giving sales milestones as some confirmation that GT/HFW weren't selling well. It's just they're being compared to the juggernaut that is Elden Ring (PS accounted for somewhere around 40% of the sales at launch)
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Basically. And it was always a weird flex because Elden Ring is a multiplatform release, it's naturally assumed multiplats, especially highly anticipated ones, will sell more than exclusives on a single platform or in a single product ecosystem.
Even with that said, both HFW and GT7 are showing some great legs and before someone brings up the fact they're being put in bundles, those bundles still cost more than the systems on their own meaning the game is adding to the bundle price. Also if people were going to pick the games up anyway, why buy them separately when a bundle puts them both in a single package?
Also weird how bundles suddenly became a dirty talking point only with those games, and not the myriad of bundles from Microsoft or even Nintendo for otherwise well-performing games (MK8 for example). I'm all for discussing stuff but folks gotta keep that same energy across the board.
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
To be fair Sony not giving numbers outside of big hits post the start of the gen does seem to be an indicator that at the very least expectations are not being met. They gave sales for almost all the earlier games and then stopped giving them after that last report that included Spider man, Ratchet, Returnal, and Demon Souls numbers.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Keep in mind the HFW are inflated by bundles that they have been selling since the end of May.
Woopah
Member
Some thoughts from my side:
- I'm shocked to see Multiverse at the top, didn't expect that at all
- Good start from Xenoblade 3, I think its going to hit 3 million or more globally
- Very impressive legs from Elden Ring, Lego and The Show. Surprising legs from Kirby as well.
- 4 COD games in the Xbox top 10 is insane
- NPD doesn't track software of forced bundles, so Horizon 2 being at 6 on PlayStation is very good
- Live A Live seems to have just missed out on the top 20, but its good to see it and Digimon in the Switch top 10
- Happy that Rise hung in there
- Publisher-wise it goes
- Nintendo - 7
- Activision Blizzard - 4
- Warner Bros. 2
- Bandai Namco -2
- Others - 2
- EA - 1
- Ubisoft - 1
- Capcom - 1
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Luminoth-4545
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It may be late in the Switch's life but the userbase is still active, Switch is still shifting a bare minimum of 40 million games per quarter and Nintendo Projects 210 million this FY. Most users haven't moved on yet so i expect both XBC3 and Splatoon 3 to outsell their predecessors.
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Yeah charts are lying because the results dont make you feel good."#1 Revenue "
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You'll note xenoblade has an asterisk, and the asterisk means digital not included
Elden ring will probably hit 20 million this year with ease, excellent
Mr Moose
Member
NPD doesn't count bundles.
Edit: But they do have digital numbers and maybe those are counted towards that? Hmm...
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Stooky
Banned
They save that info for when it's needed for marketing purposes. Not when gamers want it
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
And ahead in units sold compared to Xbox. Sorry."#1 Revenue "
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
But had no problem announcing numbers for games that sold better longer?
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Vanguard came out in 2021. Here's the last 12 months.
Vanguard way above Horizon. Judging by the current monthly chart, it also has much better legs (#5 vs outside of top 20).
CosmicComet
Member
The Switch is going to end up close to the PS2 without a price cut and with a price cut it would undoubtedly dethrone it.
Wonderful machine.
Wonderful machine.
KingT731
Member
Is it really though? Nintendo has the highest physical attach rate. Sony's last report was damn near 80:20 in favor of digital.
yazenov
Member
Vanguard came out in 2021. Here's the last 12 months.
Vanguard way above Horizon. Judging by the current monthly chart, it also has much better legs (#5 vs outside of top 20).
I actually realized I made a mistake and hoped that nobody pointed it out. But you just had to be the one who did it. Thanks.
Mozza
Member
Nothing seems to slow down Animal crossing and Mario kart 8 deluxe.
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GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Yet you were the guy holding my beer in the thread where I said they should make the combat more appealing to western audiences.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
FUCK NO! that last thing I want them to do, just for sake of people like you who have no interest in series in the first place.
Mozza
Member
To be honest I think people often forget how much software the Switch has sold, it is going to break the 1 billion revenue mark with no trouble at all, Splatoon 3 should do very well indeed. And to think some think Nintendos biggist issue is third party software.It may be late in the Switch's life but the userbase is still active, Switch is still shifting a bare minimum of 40 million games per quarter and Nintendo Projects 210 million this FY. Most users haven't moved on yet so i expect both XBC3 and Splatoon 3 to outsell their predecessors.
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Klayzer
Member
Damm right. The series is on a natural upswing without selling out for "western audience" shit. Whatever the hell that means anyways.
Mozza
Member
You have to think the latest game will sell more numbers due to the increased Switch userbase.
Woopah
Member
This is true, but it still means that Nintendo's physical sales alone are enough to compete with physical; and digital sales of other publishers.
We can be pretty confident that Xenoblade 3 will outsell Xenoblade 2
KingT731
Member
It could also be that it was an admittedly slow month for game releases. The #1 game was the Multiversus Founders Pack and the games behind XB3 are Vanguard(worst selling CoD in years) and MLB(which doesn't include Switch or Xbox digital sales). So just off that and Digimon Survive(a Visual novel basically) at 8 either those games sold ridiculously well or it was a slow month
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Woopah
Member
There's been a pretty big chunk of games lacking digital sales charting every month this year though
January - 7
February - 10
March - 10
April - 10
May - 8
June - 9
July - 8
Physical isn't dead by a long long way.
KingT731
Member
I know physical isn't dead. I'm not arguing that. I'm just looking at the list in context.
remember_spinal
Banned
Xbox has always been supply constrained, the series S less so. The latter has probably hit its saturation point
Woopah
Member
Ah my mistake, I thought you were arguing against physical not being a lot anymore
sachos
Member
Yeah that split for Sony shocked me, though the digital sales number are inflated by games that only come out on digital. I would like to see how the split looks counting only games that have both physical and digital versions. I think that big single player AAA games have a more even split.
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FriulHado
Member
Ok. I would be surprised if they were both avalaible and only one would sell so much.
In this gen, both systems are competitive so I expect a genuine head to head.
KingT731
Member
Yeah and when it comes to the Switch it's a bit odd because Nintendo classifies games that don't have a physical release completely differently.
Last year fifa and call of duty were about 50/50 at launch, probably sold more heavily physically during the holiday period (q3 the physical split always ratchets up) then over time as digital sales and the end of physical print runs the split will move digital again
But of cod is 50/50 single player experiences most likely favor physical
I wonder if the switch is over a billion sw if all the digital only games are included (since Nintendo doesn't include them in the sw totals) there are like 4500 games on the store (though I'm sure plenty sell like 3 copies) and under 20% have physical releaese