Phoenician_Viking
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Because of the strong competition in November Releasing between BF3 and COD is very stupid imo. 700k are better than ok, but i think it could have done better if U3 released in another time period.
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NPD November 2011 Sales Results [Update 7: Skyrim, CoD Wii, PC Retail Sales Up 57%]
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Because of the strong competition in November Releasing between BF3 and COD is very stupid imo. 700k are better than ok, but i think it could have done better if U3 released in another time period.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Honestly, I just can't see things that have existed in the 360 market it's entire life being the reason for its journey to heaven.
The only thing that really differentiates it now is Kinect. Otherwise it's the same 360.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
To be fair, that is about 70-90% of the total Wii audience now. I really doubt that the WM+ requirement had any significant effect on the total Zelda SS sales.
Haven't the Kinect bundles been making up roughly half of all 360 hardware sales since its inception? The other half has to be coming from somewhere! (probably Skyrim, Halo CE, COD MW3 and the Xmas bump)
The lack of Kinect software success is pretty telling.
NemesisPrime
Banned
No. It means there is justice.
brotkasten
Member
[Nintex];33325984 said:
I still feel that the games were better, when Moore was around.
goldenpp72
Member
How so? wii is not getting support and is slowing down in sales, it has a sequel console coming and I doubt wii will be supported almost at all at that point, meanwhile the 360 may last through 2013 and still has huge games coming (gta5, more call of duty, halo 4, etc).
Not saying it's gonna happen, but I think it's plausible only under the context of nintendo killing the wii off so early (by releasing nothing for it)
xemumanic
Member
[Nintex];33325984 said:
I'm not 100% sure that it really is because of what he did, so much as it happened under his watch. Moore and company left a long time ago, and much of what is making the 360 such a success now, are things that were set in stone long ago.
Not that I am saying Mattrick gets no credit, or that he just rode someone else's wave, however.
Yeah, this certainly isn't a bad result, but so far I'm not seeing a great path to them vacuuming up the market share and reach they had going with the DS.
That said, they did promise their new IP casual games next year, so I will give them one more year before I make that my full generation prediction.
I hought the 360s sales explosion started with the introduction of the slim model?
Karak
Member
Hahahaha! Do it!
Sorry ex works at Microsoft. So she and I get to talk very occasionally and she was pretty...actually mightily impressed with him.
Sadly, I get along better with her than my wife...what gives?
Probably because I am playing games too much
SolarPowered
Member
It already has nothing out for it besides Skyward and it is not selling zero copies so...
Does it even matter when the 360 is selling so well on it's own? It seems silly to argue over a bulletpoint.
a Master Ninja
Member
The DSi's and the 3DS are basically the same price. The 3DS plays all DS games and has major exclusive titles. The situation is ridiculous.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Lets put it this way then.
It would have to sell double it's yearly sales and the Wii stop selling entirely to get there by the time the WiiU launches. Or double it's yearly to hit it by the time the Loop launches.
It was a sustained bump.
The explosion (taking Wii exclusive monthly sales) happened around the time of Kinect.
Hahahaha! Do it!
Sorry ex works at Microsoft. So she and I get to talk very occasionally and she was pretty...actually mightily impressed with him.
Sadly, I get along better with her than my wife...what gives?
Probably because I am playing games too much
uh oh, trouble in paradise.
Plus, Nintendo will most likely cut the price again next year.
That's my guess. Shiny, inexpensive, and reliable.
Karak
Member
RukusProvider
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360: amazing! That's a ridiculous number
PS3: Nice bump and good sales
Wii: On it's way out
I'd love to see a ASP for Nov for all 3. I hope JVM can get that info. All 3 had a ton of deals on BF and I'd like to see which pricepoints the different consoles were desirable to consumers.
I'd love to see a split of all the MP games. I expect Skyrim, MW3 and BF3 to heavily favor the 360 while Batman and Madden would be much closer
PS3: Nice bump and good sales
Wii: On it's way out
I'd love to see a ASP for Nov for all 3. I hope JVM can get that info. All 3 had a ton of deals on BF and I'd like to see which pricepoints the different consoles were desirable to consumers.
I'd love to see a split of all the MP games. I expect Skyrim, MW3 and BF3 to heavily favor the 360 while Batman and Madden would be much closer
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
What it really means is that BF3 did a great job to chart so high in its second month of sales.
Agreeing with BurntPork is the first sign of insanity.
The concept of the 3DS just isn't as exciting as the DS. Same for Wii U. They will be successful I'm sure, but those crazy numbers won't be replicated any time soon.
Karak
Member
I expect Skyrim to be a fucking landslide on the 360 compared to to PS3.
PS3...
... And yet Sony still can't put out a decent PR. :lol
So... Nintendo's the one who made out bad this time? Times are changing! The GCN days are coming back!
"Bad" is a relative term. I'm just guessing here but I'm betting Nintendo generated more profit from selling their hardware this month than Sony did. From a business perspective then I'm guessing Nintendo won.
Well nice work MS Xbox NA team. The reason MS wasn't sold out in the black friday musing thread is because MS refused to get caught with any serious level of unmet demand for Kinect the way they did last year. The Xbox team is no longer an appendage to stop Sony and sell a little more software. It has morphed into MS's best shot at getting back in the game vs Apple and Google by getting a head start in the living room. MS's dashboard update has been covered in all of the mainstream media this week. Also:
MS seeks Executive to develop Xbox shows
Yusuf Mehdi to leave Bing division for Xbox
This is the reason I have no doubt that MS will unveil a new box at E3 that will be highly connected to the upcoming new Window's 8 products.
MS seeks Executive to develop Xbox shows
Yusuf Mehdi to leave Bing division for Xbox
This is the reason I have no doubt that MS will unveil a new box at E3 that will be highly connected to the upcoming new Window's 8 products.
Or they're just running up debt...
goldenpp72
Member
The Wii just got outsold by almost a million in November by the 360, not sure how December is gonna go, but if the result is similar, that will seriously widen the gap for the Wii vs 360 in the US. Wii doesn't have much more to gain, 360 and ps3 can still price drop and have WAY more games coming than the Wii, as well as the Wii U likely cutting off the Wii entirely (it's very clear Nintendo does not plan to support the system post Wii U)
Basically, I think 360 will continue to exist even after the next Xbox hits, at a lower price and with continued software support. Especially since developers will probably develop for 360/Ps3 while supporting Wii U. I don't think the 360 closing the gap with the Wii is unrealistic in the end, in America at least, not for worldwide by any stretch.
Xenoblade is gonna help sell millions of Wiis. Believe.
Nah, it's gonna bomb
So what are predictions of Xenoblade in the US? Would it take a miracle to get 100k? 50k? I feel bad (kinda) for not being able to support it since I imported already. I mean, I could double dip but that money could go towards other games I haven't actually played yet..
It's time for Nintendo to blow the lid of the Wii U by like... tommorow. The Wii has had a great run but it's time to move on and they really shouldn't unveil a console and then not say anything about it anymore... that's just not fair
Yep, it's their biggest consumer device and they want to turn it into a monster. Which is why it is important to blow up the Wii U before it gets from the ground as well. You might never know when Nintendo might release something that looks utterly stupid and yet captures the entire market for 5 years straight.
Xenoblade is gonna help sell millions of Wiis. Believe.
Nah, it's gonna bomb
I can't even believe we managed to convince them it'd sell if they released it here.
lol bomba, indeed.
Personally, as I think I said a while back, I'm not willing to make any real predictions for the 3DS's success until at LEAST a year from launch has passed. Way way too many variables going on at the start of a system's life to say anything definitively.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Closer to idiotic I'd say.[Nintex];33326418 said:It's time for Nintendo to blow the lid of the Wii U by like... tommorow. The Wii has had a great run but it's time to move on and they really shouldn't unveil a console and then not say anything about it anymore... that's just not fair
The market is exceptionally volatile right now, and just sitting on their hands will not help them get back that fire they held earlier in the generation.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Nice job MS & Sony, while obviously not going to No.1 in the U.S, a 70% jump is nice.
outunderthestars
Banned
I'd say 50K followed by another 50K at $20 or less over the course of a year.
bigtroyjon
Member
Retail sales were flat yoy. Same amount of money, people just got better deals this year.
But just as you said. When Nintendo cuts the Wii that's it. Even if the X360 outsold it afterwards it wouldn't matter anymore.
I have to say next generation is going to be very interesting. Could MS finally reach the top position then?
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Americans always spend money they don't have too. Black Friday is a mess of low income people swarming to crappy stores to spend money they should use for bills, savings, etc.
Only if it improves its brand in continental Europe.
protonion
Member
Funny that all 3 consoles will be very close when all is said and done.
Wii is near the end of the road.
PS360 has a couple of good years left. Each will sell about 85-90 millions I think.
If any of them follows the PS2's sales pattern it could even break the 100 million mark a few years into the next gen.
Wii is near the end of the road.
PS360 has a couple of good years left. Each will sell about 85-90 millions I think.
If any of them follows the PS2's sales pattern it could even break the 100 million mark a few years into the next gen.
They said they didn't want to talk about the WiiU because of the situation of the 3DS. I still don't understand their strategy. The WiiU is not exactly a complex console to explain, so how on earth can they screw up this badly?
The Abominable Snowman
Member
To compare last 2 years
So 3DS+DS is basically slightly down (Sort of bad for 3DS first year + nearly 50% price cut), 360 and PS3 explosion, Wii continues its downward slope into oblivion, and everything else is negligible or noone cares enough to look it up
So 3DS+DS is basically slightly down (Sort of bad for 3DS first year + nearly 50% price cut), 360 and PS3 explosion, Wii continues its downward slope into oblivion, and everything else is negligible or noone cares enough to look it up