April is a low sales month for hardware. Both consoles will go down and gap will be closer.
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NPD Sales Results for March 2015 [Up1: Nintendo numbers, PS4 placing]
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April is a low sales month for hardware. Both consoles will go down and gap will be closer.
I have a feeling it'll have online MP this time and that will be the focus.
BruceLeeRoy
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Not really, isn't it the only notable release on the X1 right now?
I have a feeling they'll just forget the IP and move on tbh. Possibly RaD will do a new IP with the same engine maybe?
Certainly looks like it.
Nightengale
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Unless your name is Kazunori Yamauchi, Sony doesn't talk about their sequels so soon after shipping the first game.
Black Republican
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DS2 remaster or originals?
eot
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Saying it's a mod for a yearly franchise makes it sound like it's another release on top of the yearly ones, when in fact it's the one that made BF yearly.
BruceLeeRoy
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Originals
ArchedThunder
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It sold less than 300k in February, so probably less than 500k total
Captain Toad is really somewhat of a sleeper hit considering the platform. Likely a pretty good investment for Nintendo; can't imagine it cost a lot for them to make. The engine was already done, a lot of assets could be reused, and in terms of level design they'd already made Captain Toad-levels before, so must've been a quick process to get things done.
ArchedThunder
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Why does the OP say Mario Party 9 under notes, it should be Mario Party 10...
Mikey Jr.
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15 will be on Xbone. Guaranteed.
But if kh collection comes to ps4 and not Xbone, I wouldn't be surprised if they cancel kh3 on Xbone.
I mean, 80/20 split on type 0 would be fucking nothing lol.
Jigolo
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This gen is so....weird...
Competitor is $50 cheaper with a new bundle and it gets outsold by over 100k. (wat?) Usually bundles and cheaper prices outsell the competition.
Xbone down YoY despite being $150 cheaper than the same time last year. WTF
ArchedThunder
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The Xbox One announcement and specs are having a long lasting effect on the system.
Banjo-Kazooie
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You have to assume MS will be in a good spot with bundles too though...
Halo 5 Bundle
Assassin's Creed/The Division Bundle Bundle
edit: How can I forget a possibly COD bundle
Don't think Tomb Raider will get a US bundle, probably only UK/EU
What it is telling me is that even with Bloodborne, it seems the console wasn't able to elevate to move a lot more units, which we would expect with Bloodborne releasing as a true current gen exclusive. This leads me to believe that a good amount of people that would be interested in exclusives such as Bloodborne already had a PS4, and it didn't do too much to attract new converts. (Not saying it wasn't a system seller, just not an amazing system seller which some expected)
As usual, this could be totally wrong, heh
Exterminieren
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Absolutely. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Toad model of development become a regular thing for Nintendo- bits of games carved off and puffed up to budget retail products, with heavy asset reuse and mature design practices.
If the results are as charming as Captain Toad, I wouldn't mind in the slightest.
No new games/exclusives to really push it. Majority of people who want Halo MCC already have it. The system isn't going to do better on price alone when the PS4 has a good number of recent exclusives that are getting attention.
Banjo-Kazooie
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You know the LTD chart is the one on the right, right?
How long will X1's sales be blamed on launch when clearly it wasn't a detriment during the holidays?
Nightengale
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This.
BruceLeeRoy
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We getting any estimates on X1 or PS4 numbers?
229k and 330k i think.
More parents by the systems during the holidays. Especially at the prices the XB1 was at. What you're seeing now is core gamers buying them. Who are obviously more informed.
At least that's what I think.
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Nightengale
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And informed gamers are plenty informed which console now has games releasing in spring/summer.
Agree. The people who are simply looking for the best deal/price mainly come out during the Holiday season which makes sense considering that's when the biggest games and best deals are in stores.
I would say that the people buying consoles right now are more so core gamers who don't care about price and simply want to play the latest release(s) -- hence why it's good to have (solid) exclusives during the first half of the year.
Silent Chief
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Look at the sales in dollars.
Sammy Samusu
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3DSlay better pull though!
BB lower than my already conservative prediction (500k at retail). It's the biggest game on PS4 right now, with exclusive marketing push. I mean, 380k is not bad, but I expected more.
BB lower than my already conservative prediction (500k at retail). It's the biggest game on PS4 right now, with exclusive marketing push. I mean, 380k is not bad, but I expected more.
Mr. Giggles
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BF: hard line doing better than I expected.
Yea I don't think we'll be getting that order sequel.. Hope to be proven wrong.
Yea I don't think we'll be getting that order sequel.. Hope to be proven wrong.
Eolz
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Cheaper bundles didn't help the Gamecube, and the X1 is far from a GC situation.
Thanks for the long and detailed post.
Seems that we might get another Captain Toad game (handheld this time?) and Bayonetta 2 isn't doing that bad all things considered.
Critical success and sales better than on PS3 in the west might convince Nintendo to fund another sequel or even buy the IP.
Can't see any other publisher asking for that anyway...
I see you bring up exclusives alot. Can you explain to me why X1 didn't win one month when a exclusive released? If exclusives are the deciding factor as you say, wouldn't the x1 have won some of those months?
That's a bullshit estimate and you know it.
Great result for Bloodborne!
And very good for MP10 too, considering (compared to Bloodborne) how it is selling to a lower install base and how it should be less front-loaded.
Good hold for 3DS hw-wise, sad about the new games on the other hand.
Good hold for PS3 too.
Wii U still way lower than competitors, but at least it doesn't seem dead as it seemed between 24/12 months ago.
And very good for MP10 too, considering (compared to Bloodborne) how it is selling to a lower install base and how it should be less front-loaded.
Good hold for 3DS hw-wise, sad about the new games on the other hand.
Good hold for PS3 too.
Wii U still way lower than competitors, but at least it doesn't seem dead as it seemed between 24/12 months ago.
biglittleps
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Looking at the exclusive character Galahad in Super Time ultra force, Photo mode addition, bundles, marketing it had for launch etc., i'm sure there will be sequel for Order 1886 as RAD (talented studio with many games which sony knows) already mentioned several times that they want this into a series and they got ideas needed. Uncharted 1 from ND also was not a big game either in content and not a big hitter in sales, but UC2 did become a masterpiece with addition of multiplayer and expanding Single player content. Its all because they have engine and game world ready from first game and then they used time to expand game as UC2. I expect same from RAD here in their sequel with multiplayer and expanding single player content just like Uncharted 2.
gaming_noob
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MLB The Show - the cover/box (Canadian version) curse is at it again. Russell Martin hitting below .042 so far this season.
Nightengale
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Uncharted 2. Sequel. Cinematic action/adventure shooter. Massive, massive hype behind the game. Huge marketing push. 10/10s.
580k at retail.
Opus Angelorum
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It'll do 1 million WW, don't expect a sequel though.
frankie_baby
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considering it hasn't hit Bomba pricing like the first did I wonder if bayonetta 2 could end up making Nintendo more money than the first made for sega?
For extent of gen. The impact of launch and response (combined with PS4 response) doesn't vanish in terms of its market impact (although it's on-going impact may lessen). It's not the only factor now (PS4 lead, market share and momentum is probably bigger) but the reveal/launch and warm reception of PS4 put the XB1 where it is, and the holiday sales reflect that too despite looking improved.
Right now XB1 is simply less desired overall by gaming centric consumers and that perception is because of how each console launched and how market perceives it. If it's cheap enough in US at holiday period when a lot of less informed purchases take place and price plays a stronger role then market momentum and perception then it can perform well.
The two are linked you know; one contributed to a market position that directly relates to the other. It's also why holiday sales don't carry over to continued lead for Xbox even if its cheaper.
Each element of a consumer good's market perception and reception leads to and informs the next. The Xbox to be blunt looks likely to only ever outsell PS4 when people are willing to buy the perceived "lesser" brand or item due the price advantage and the perception it's "good enough" and that really only happens during periods of the year such as November/December in US.
Until MS change the market perception PS4 is "better" - if they ever do - they'll never change unless they really cut the price way below PS4.
Exterminieren
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Wii U's hardware sales are still woeful, but software's turned around in the past year. Top titles are reaching astonishing attach rates, and smaller titles have been able to carve themselves a niche that the likes of Pikmin weren't able to. The fact that Mario Party had better first month sales than 3D World had in the holidays speaks its own story, really.
Of course, many of these titles are connected to major franchises, either directly or through spin-offs. We'll see how able Nintendo is to sell new ideas with Splatoon.
Of course, many of these titles are connected to major franchises, either directly or through spin-offs. We'll see how able Nintendo is to sell new ideas with Splatoon.
That's pretty much what I gathered from his posts.
Could have sworn it won November.
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I never said they are "the deciding factor". I simply said that they are good to have in the lower console selling months.
Leyasu
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They only have themrslves to blame for this gen. Astonishing really. They wiped out all their gains last gen in fail swoop.